I believe self reflection is a requirement for personal growth. I think its important to accept outside criticism to better one's self as well.
I've read this text now probably 10 times, and trying to see if this applies to me. I can't tell if I'm misinterpreting the message here or if I'm interpreting it right and what I do sometimes thinking is helpful actually isn't. Is this reading comprehension failure on my part or a poorly encoded communication? I'm interested in your feedback positive or negative.
Many other people's struggles are theoretical to me in the sense that I don't experience them personally, but can certainly listen to those experiencing them and the negative effects on their lives, and many times how their challenges also mean all the rest of us not experiencing that problem also are less because of it.
Is the text in the image advocating that "because I don't experience these firsthand, I should hold my tongue when I see/hear someone advocating for things that would cause these struggles to increase"? As an example: I have no problem casting a ballot in an election. I can get time off from work. My polling place is always safe and well staffed. There are early voting days for at least a week prior to election day including access in evening hours and weekends. I have easy transportation to and from it. No one is targeting me demographically to try to remove me from voter rolls. However, I understand in many places in the country my fellow citizens trying to vote don't have this same situation and have challenges just being able to cast a ballot.
Is the above text telling me that I shouldn't speak out against those trying to increase the difficulty of voting on behalf of those that are facing the challenges to vote just because I don't experience it? I'm certainly not trying to take up all the oxygen, but am I doing that unintentionally? Is this text telling me to be quiet if I'm not personally affected by the particular challenge being discussed? I don't think so, but whats the nuance I'm missing?
37Not to excuse the behaviour, but I honestly think some people do it reflexively. Like I think some of the most egregious "sea lions" actually believe that they're being measured and rational and just asking questions and raising concerns, or whatever bullshit.
Definitely some real bad actors, too, but also many many many useful idiots. I'm convinced. Just because I remember being a white 21yo and thinking I was some kind of atheist truth seeker, when really it was mostly just gas bagging
20Thinking the color of your skin has anything to do with anything is an easy way for me to not take anything you say seriously. The inequality is class based, not race. But keep spouting off about how whiteys are the devil and creating more racists of all colors. Both of these sides serve the ruling class by distracting us from the real issues.
19hear me out..
9Seems a little racist, but I get where OP is coming from.
9Remember: race is a social construct ......until you can use it to criticize white people, then those people are white and bad and it's objective reality, there's no "social construct" anymore.
How do you people not hear yourselves?
This is the kind of shit that makes people (correctly) say "both sides". Both sides are racist, both sides think their racism is justified, both sides completely overlook their own hypocrisy on the issue. The only change is which race they start the discussion with.
8I do think there are people this applies to, but my understanding is there are relatively few of them and you can identify them as they talk shit about everyone to get gossip and hold petty grudges like gollum would hold the ring of power.
8So which social justice cause has Biden made meaningful progress on?
Police shootings? Prison labor? Qualified Immunity? Civil Asset Forfeiture? Rent affordability? Welfare cliff? Welfare work load for not losing benefits? Unions? (Lmao, we all remember the railroad) Cash bail? Debtor's prison? (An unconstitutional practice the DOJ could end today) Reproductive healthcare? Minimum sentences? Child marriage?
Look, if the word on the street was that Biden had meaningfully improved life for minorities and lower socioeconomic groups then I'd respect that. But it isn't. Shit is just festering while the Democrats take victory laps.
5Here in South Africa we just call them "white liberals."
2"Economist, political scientist liberal and libertarian"
"If you block me means I win the debate"
2I'm not white but teenage/early 20's me is feeling really called out right now....
1Ah, this is "a lesson about how to exclude white people (still the majority of the country) from any social justice movement." Characterize and belittle any of them who try to engage and support a cause.
If they can't relate and want to have a conversation about it but challenge some of the ideas then they're the baddies. If they don't just repeat the movement's slogans without thought then clearly they should be excluded. This honestly feels like a right wing subversion tactic.
Yes, I know there are people like the post. People who love to argue and do it for the fun of arguing. Those people do cause trouble if you're trying to get a consensus or get something done.... But just like "welfare , queens" or criminal illegal immigrants, they feel like the minority where this is intending to paint a large group of people with the same brush.
It's usually not good to make fun of people who are trying to help, or you teach people to shut down and not engage with your cause. If the statement is you have to have experienced or you can't relate, then why bother having a movement because you're not trying to convince anybody who isn't already on your side.
1“Whiteness” doesn’t exist.
-2wow so true fuck white men!
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