Disney reportedly lost 1.7 million paid subscribers in the week after suspending Kimmel

It hurt itself ~~in its confusion~~ doing exactly as it was told by the orange diaper man

Vance was recently on tv saying carr isn't responsible because "look, Jimmy is still on tv, so what'd Carr do wrong?", trying to sweep it under the rug.
- They were not successful in their goal when breaking the law, so this argument is that therefor they are innocent

Liberals make up more of the consumer class than conservatives. That highly marketable strata of people that have disposable income tend to be affluent, college educated liberals. Its why they keep winning the culture war and it drives conservatives insane.

Yes, and most of that consumer base needs to stop tolerating quite a bit of reactionary bullshit (yes, American "conservatives" aren't conservative, they don't keep status quo, they actively destroy it for regression, they are reactionary).
- Conservatives have always been reactionary. This isn't a US thing it's a global thing, they don't want to keep things the same they want to return to some rose-tinted version of history that never existed. They're the ones that call themselves conservative.
  But you can't call everyone you disagree with a delusional idiot even if they are, because the insult loses its power. So we might as well call them by then preferred name
It also helps that the conservatives constantly shoot themselves in their foot by defining their own reality. They decide for example that people don't like "the gays" but really it's only the right wing thugs that really have an opinion. The moderate conservatives aren't bothered one way or the other. So now they're trying to sell policies to subjugate a group of people that probably only about quarter of their membership really care about.
It is really obvious with Trump, they just invent entire new things to be mad about, like this Tylenol thing. That just came out of thin air because they couldn't think of anything else to distract people with, but even their own supporters don't really care about it because until about 3 weeks ago it wasn't a claim that anyone was making.
the problem is these corps/media is controlled mostly by conservative ceos, which will lick TRUMPs boot anytime, they are fickle and untrustworthy, but the gop is the most consistent in not interfering with "unethical business pratices", plus they also use these media/ to issue propaganda in many forms, like you said to institute culture wars.
- Corporations don't have stable political identities.
  They'll promote trans people if it makes them money.
  And then sell trans people to ICE the next quarter if it makes them even more money.
  And then use a shell company to sell trans merch to the people boycotting them.

Oh no! Anyway...

How do you use firewire on modem operating systems? I need to know.
- I have to confess that I don't actually use FireWire, nor have I ever used it to transfer anything. I just thought the port looked cool...
- If it's Linux, sounds like it should just work out of box, at least for a while longer.
  https://www.tomshardware.com/news/linux-to-support-firewire-until-2029
  Linux to Support Firewire Until 2029
  The ancient connectivity standard still has years of life ahead of it.
  Firewire is getting a new lease on life and will have extended support up to 2029 on Linux operating systems. Phoronix reports that a Linux maintainer Takashi Sakamoto has volunteered to oversee the Firewire subsystem for Linux during this time, and will work on Firewire's core functions and sound drivers for the remaining few that still use the connectivity standard.
  Further, Takashi Sakamoto says that his work will help users transition from Firewire to more modern technology standards (like perhaps USB 2.0). Apparently, Firewire still has a dedicated fanbase that is big enough to warrant six more years of support. But we suspect this will be the final stretch for Firewire support, surrounding Linux operating systems. Once 2029 comes around, there's a good chance Firewire will finally be dropped from the Linux kernel altogether.
- I bought a PCIe card for FireWire slots, there might be a usb converter though. On windows it worked out of the box, and I used WinDV for importing video.

This just shows that the whole "muh, it is the corporations fault for the climate emergency, there is nothing I can do about it!" is a load of BS. You can vote with your wallet. Become anti-consumption.

I was trying to buy food that wasn’t covered in plastic. I don’t have an option. I have looked for butchers, bakers and general food items that sell without plastic wrapping and it just isn’t feasible.
That's an incredibly naive and misinformed opinion you've got there. Most of the companies polluting are not businesses that members of the public buy services from. The vast majority of the largest polluters are business to business providers, Joe public can't do anything about that.
Just look up Monsanto, if we took them out the total pollution worldwide would probably drop by about 50% but they sell to farmers, so you might say well don't buy from farmers that buy from Monsanto but the problem is all farmers buy from Monsanto, so there isn't another option.
It takes two to tango, they say. Corporations have a lot more wallet to vote with, as it were - but we are not powerless or blameless when we support them out of complacency.
What a terribly stupid and wrong take.
But I'm hungry for climate
- You can have your climate after you've eaten your short range weather patterns young man

The total allegedly includes subscriptions to Disney+, Hulu and ESPN. That falloff reportedly marked a 436 percent increase over the usual churn rate for the service.

So 317.000 users would have cancelled anyway and the actual protest was 1.3 million. If my googling is right, in total there are ~207 million subscribers.

Summarizing, they lost the 0,6%. Much more that what I expected, but hardly noticeable. I'd love to know how many already subscribed back.

It’s noticeable when you look at the price of the subscription. That’s almost $300 million.
- Calculate the 0.6% of your wage: that’s what $300M is for them.
A previously-posted Gizmodo article said
Kabas reports that 1.7 million was 436% above a subscriber loss that’s typical for the same period
Which I thought was very useful.
- Kabas is the reporter and I still haven't seen where they got that number.
I suspect they'd have lost a lot more if this dragged on longer, he was back in a few days.
If my googling is right, in total there are ~207 million subscribers.
This says 128M, which seems far more plausible. https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/disney-stop-reporting-subscriber-numbers-disney-plus-hulu-espn-1236480413/
- Yes, but I looked up Disney+, Hulu and ESPN combined.
Consider that the full number is world wide. How many of them are US based or US involved?
- No idea, but of Disney+, Hulu and ESPN, only Disney+ is available in the EU and it gets only a small fraction of the market.

Nice. None of those “go woke go broke” boycotts ever actually materialize into meaningful business pressure.

Unless you’re fucking Cracker Barrel.

Cracker Barrel is so far in the red that the logo redesign was a hail mary move. They couldn't afford to lose the tiny number of people who still frequent their trash diners.
Unless you’re fucking Cracker Barrel.
Which was manufactured outrage, spawned by a few Shitter posts which were then amplified by a huge bot network.
- by russia too.
lol they are already on another "cracker barrel trend" right now, about a music performer making maga mad. also CB situation was fueled mostly by a certain propaganda source.
Most CEOs are generally bright enough to look at the sales data rather than all of the online rhetoric and if the sales data isn't going down they can ignore everything else.
Everyone knows the right are terrible at organising themselves, they need a central figure in lieu of that they never achieve anything. When they try and boycott something it generally fails because most of them will continue to use the service while declaring loudly online that their not. The right don't have actual moral values, other than selfishness.

Don't roll over for the Orange Turd or you will pay the price.

Go woke or go broke 💪
- I like "Go fash, lose cash."
The anti Trump forces saw their power, revelled in it, and called it a day. It will not be applied to other companies.
It’s like the nationwide protests

And then they raised the price, so anyone who goes back sheet this is punished for leaving in the first place. Screw Disney.

It may seem like a small percentage loss when talking dollar for dollar subscription loss vs Disneys massive revenue, but the scarier thing for their board of directors is damage to their brand.

The thought that a situation like this could cause any long a lasting or irreparable harm to the iconic mouse ears in any way would make keep them awake at night.

Streaming services are very sensitive to the ups and downs of anything that's a standard deviation of from normal. They're too new to have 10+ years of data to fall back on, so the same overreactions that canceled Kimmel also uncanceled him because of panicky reactions to repercussions.
Disney has been trying to keep thier streaming alive, despite the massive costs maintaining one(paying all those actors and studios it aint cheap) which is why you see declining quality in the shows and movies.

And they sold the list of people who cancelled to the US government!

Wooooah, there, buckaroo. Gonna need a citation for that.
- it's a joke
- The fact that you need a /s makes me very sad.

So far.

tbh, I expect a lot of subscribers to resub sooner than later. Sadly
- I think this is how boycotts are supposed to be. Protest and return if it's successful.
  If companies know they won't ever recover from the mistake, why walk it back?

Almost everyone I know who cancelled their subscription is happily renewing it now that Kimmel is back on the air. I'm sticking with donating to PBS every month instead.

We're not. We were halfway out the door already with the lack of good content and increasing prices. This just gave us a needed push to actually cancel. We won't resubscribe.
- That's how I feel about it too. Literally nothing I wanted to watch over there anyway. I'm not missing anything.
Let them know that I said that they are spineless for renewing

Surprised it was only that many. Needs to triple.

I unsubscribed. Wasn't really even using it.

Good.

I wonder what is worth more to ABC/Disney, all those direct subscribers, or these affiliates that are consolidating into two or three big media companies?

This might be the beginning of the death of the affiliate model. What would happen if Sinclair simply stopped affiliating with ABC altogether? They own enough stations that they can do their own thing. Would it matter if there is no ABC station in Mobile, Alabama, if people who still want to watch can stream it?

The problem for OTA affiliates/broadcasters is content. Their business model relies on getting eyeballs so they can justify what they charge for advertising. Creating content that your viewers actually want to watch is expensive.
Aside from some of the larger PBS stations, I don't know that any of the major broadcasters, like Sinclair, have any experience producing their own content. They can throw their little tantrum and refuse to air Kimmel, but that's just going to hurt them in the short term as advertisers will decide OTA timeslots are not a good investment.
- Sinclair seems to have some experience producing their own Fantasy shows (masquerading as News Content). They don't have to put in that much effort to capture the attention of the MAGA crowd.

Is there unpaid subscriptions?

Some subscriptions are part of a package. Like my cable internet package includes a 'free' Disney subscription that I can't cancel.
free with purchase of course

How many came back when he was reinstated?

Any positive integer (or rational or real, technically) number is too many.
I'm both galled and exhausted by how modern companies wield 'intellectual property'.
- And Disney is one of the worst for it.
How many said they were gonna but dint because of marvel or SW was too addicting.

ive been trying to get ppl to boycott Disney plus for Palestine for over 2 yrs and white man does it in a week

Palestine isn't American, it's some far off place that most people have no connection to, no care for or about. And people generally have enough fucking problems in their own life to care about a place they likely will die before visiting or giving two shits about. So beyond just being yet another random thing the news yaps about to keep people scared. It's just not important to most people.
While Kimmel himself may not matter to many. The situation does directly affect the world and problem many Americans are worried about. It's a literal representation of the turmoil that fills many Americans minds.
Not to mention Kimmel is a famous person that people know and have heard of. So his problem actually makes it to the ears of those that will resonate with the problem that his situation is in relation to.
You on the other hand are a literal nobody by comparison that no one but yourself and your immediate group will give any weight to your words.
Not to mention the hell does Palestine have to do with Disney...? That's an extremely tenuous connection.
Its a shitty fact that just cause something's important doesn't mean people can care about it. We all have a limit, and if your own ducks arnt in a row worrying about others is a good way to drive yourself to madness and help no one.
Yes, let's add racism to this too!
Disney directly acted against Kimmel, caving to political pressure from the government, a wanton act of government censorship. What did Disney do to Palestine? Bomb them?
A specimen has breached its .ml cage
- I'm out of the loop about the judgement about instances. What's wrong with the .ml instance?
I feel this, I've tried to get cis people to go to protests and mobilize for trans rights for years, and crickets, but they manage monthly marches and even a general strike (in my country) for Palestine since Oct '23. People usually have the capacity to organize, they just don't think most issues are worth it.