New Florida law requires city officials to disclose net worth; some are resigning instead
New Florida law requires city officials to disclose net worth; some are resigning instead
Two Daytona Beach Shores city commissioners have resigned prior to a Jan. 1 deadline for filing a more stringent financial disclosure form.
Two Daytona Beach Shores city commissioners have resigned as the latest in a wave of local elected officials leaving before Jan. 1, when they face more stringent financial disclosure requirements.
Mel Lindauer, a Shores commissioner since 2016, told The News-Journal on Wednesday the new requirement − submitting what's known as Form 6 − is "totally invasive" and serves no purpose.
Commissioner Richard Bryan, who has also served since 2016, said in his Dec. 21 resignation letter that he had another priority but added the Form 6 issue "affected the timing" of his decision.
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Many state officials already file a Form 6, including the governor and Cabinet, legislators, county council members and sheriffs. The forms require disclosure of the filer's net worth and holdings valued at more than $1,000, including bank accounts, stocks, retirement accounts, salary and dividends.
"What difference does it make if one elected official is worth $100,000 and the other is worth $10 million?" he asked. "That's totally irrelevant."
Because I trust someone worth $100k or less to have my interests at heart far more than someone worth $10M. Do these people really not get that?
People are sick and tired of being ruled by the wealthy. The truth is, city government pay is often so bad, it’s only the wealthy with large passive income that will go for it.
147It also shows who's accepting other money. If you're worth $10m but entered office with a lot less, the office doesn't pay enough for you to have earned all of that. You must have accepted
bribes"donations" to get there.98Exactly this. Finance transparency should be a requirement for public officials. I honestly don't care if my politician has a NW of 10 million. I do care if that's tied to industries they are supposed to be regulating. I also care if they started out with nothing and became millionaires after joining politics.
That said, billionaires should be barred from ever interacting with politics. Congratulations, you won capitalism, now leave the rest of us alone.
47City officials typically don't take bribes, they'll buy land after learning about a project, or select a company for a job that uses supplies from your company. One of the famous politicians in my area bought a bunch of land when a highway project was announced and made millions.
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LOL. How in the world did this legislation get passed? In Florida, of all places.
112Sen. Jason Brodeur, R-Sanford, sponsored the legislation in the Florida Senate. Rep. Spencer Roach, R-North Fort Myers, sponsored the House version of the bill and said it brings "parity" among elected officials.
Also sponsored by Republicans, voted for by a state Congress with a Republican super majority, I'd love to know what the catch is, but it's definitely a law that should be everywhere, public servants should always have transparency to prevent corruption and as the sponsor said "bring parity" to local elections.
81I'm surprised too but it sounds like its working as intended!
18I was about to say that finally something good is coming from the state. Got used to disappointing headlines.
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Meanwhile in Norway every citizen can look up any other person's tax returns. Income and fortune all neatly presented on a government website.
101I just today learned that Finland does this as well. It took a while to consider, but it would help people to get paid fair wages, detect corruption, and to generally ensure people are more honest about their finances. Overall, it's a very different approach to what it means to be in a society together.
57This sounded like a bad idea to me, but I can't actually come up with a reason why, so maybe it's not.
40I can see why people would not like it from a privacy standpoint. It would never fly in America for everyone. For government officials? I like this one.
17Had the exact same thought process.
14The reason is it's like a treasure map with multiple "x"-es for any burglar. While in the Nordics it's not that much of a problem (though I did read once or twice stories of people who were repeatedly and uniquely targeted because they were somewhat richer than their neighbours and despite not showing off), in any country with a large, unsupported poor population and limited to none public trust...
14Because you see it from your personal point of view. Seeing it from a government perspective it’s public money and should be easily identified. Also if I remember correctly, in Norway you have to identify yourself to get access to the data.
10Because it could potentially subject you to a planned robbery? That's about it, although I think it definitely depends on the place too. Norway likely doesn't have to worry about that issue.
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I'm in favor of transparency, but this sounds like it was designed to put democrats in prison.
It only applies to city officials, not county or state, (more likely to be democrats) and has stiff penalties for any errors discovered during an audit.
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Every level of government should require this, IMO.
If folks want to resign over it, I get it, and that's fine. You are meant to be replaced regularly anyway. Career politicians are more of a bug than a feature.
If you don't want people to know your finances, you shouldn't be a public servant. Power should include transparency.
73There's only one problem: Until it's a requirement on every level it shouldn't be one for single levels.
This law is not a tool for transparency, but a weapon for state politicians against local politicians disagreeing with them.
What we have here is a law in a majorily red state that does not apply for state officials (republicans) but does apply for local politicians (democrats in several big cities) that can punish minor infractions (please try to make a list of everything you own with the correct values that can withstand an audit by the state...) with jail time. Go figure...
21Many state officials already file a Form 6, including the governor and Cabinet, legislators, county council members and sheriffs.
18Thanks for the context, that certainly changes my view of it. Sounds like the usual "rules for thee, not for me" dick move.
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I am surprised they even passed that law. For Floridian standards, this is good and the bar isn't even high 😂
48The one's resigning are the people that shouldn't be in office. It's likely a great benefit to Florida that they're gone.
20Hmmm, 2016... Did something else happen around that time that may have emboldened certain people with certain idealogies to get into positions of power?
16Corrupt Florida men and women fecking off from positions of power they shouldn't deserve.
15I might resign too. But in my case it would be because I didn't want to quantify how little my life has amounted to.
11People are afraid of others knowing how much money they make. Either out of pride or shame, or out of fear that something out of place may be discovered.
6Some quick looking doesn't reveal the political affiliations of either Lindauer or Bryan.
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