"In the United States, previous elections were falsified through postal voting ... they bought ballots for $10, filled them out, and threw them into mailboxes without any supervision from observers, and that's it," Putin said, without providing evidence. Putin's opponents say the March election in ...
(Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin, running for a new six-year term in an election that his opponents say is a parody of democracy, said on Tuesday that past U.S. elections had been rigged by postal voting.
"In the United States, previous elections were falsified through postal voting ... they bought ballots for $10, filled them out, and threw them into mailboxes without any supervision from observers, and that's it," Putin said, without providing evidence.
Elections have been rigged for a long, long time. Gerrymandering is absolutely insane. Cities with meandering sections cut off. Disadvantaged suburbs slammed into afluent areas across town to dilute the votes.
"In the United States, previous elections were falsified through postal voting ... they bought ballots for $10, filled them out, and threw them into mailboxes without any supervision from observers, and that's it,"
Problem - That's not the way vote by mail works.
You register to vote and place a signature on file.
You get your ballot in the mail and vote.
You put the ballot in the mailing envelope and sign the back of the envelope.
When the ballot is returned, they compare the signature on the envelope with the signature on file, if it matches, the ballot is set aside for counting.
If there's a PROBLEM:
A) Missing signature
B) Signature doesn't match
C) Ballot damaged or unreadable
D) Ballot already recorded as present
The ballot gets returned to the voter for correction, assuming there's enough time for it to be corrected.
What Putin describes wouldn't work, because the fake ballots either wouldn't have a signature, wouldn't have a valid signature, or wouldn't correspond to a registered voter.
Rhetoric of this sort just promotes distrust in election systems, which of course prompts demagogues like Trump to promise voters they can fix it if they gain power. The fun thing here is that the right here needs you to believe things that aren't true in order to justify them doing a coup, the stupid thing is that stupid people take this kind of talk seriously.
But seriously, American voting is relatively secure- it's just that where lawmakers don't want voters deciding the 'wrong' way they've gerrymandered them into districts to prevent them doing it, and they've done things to strip voters of their voting rights and to suppress voting and to make it inconvenient or difficult to vote. This has been a bipartisan thing in the past, but today the GOP are the chief offenders.
Also, Putin's Russia is in the stage of democracy where elections are an exercise in flaunting the death of democracy itself, and nobody should ever take his talk about elections as being in good faith, ever
Why is it so hard for people to judge credibility? It's just (1) listen to a statement, (2) ask if what a person is saying directly benefits them and (3) if it does, require evidence to believe it.
We know this is not credible because by saying it, Putin diverts attention from his own corrupt election and normalizes election fraud. So did he provide evidence? No. So it should be ignored.
I love the logic pivot on people who in the 90s thought russia was just straight up evil are now looking at them as the bastion of conservative ideals...
Go move to Russia boys, oh you don't want to? Why not they apparently have it all figured out.
Hey Putin, we're all saving up for the gigantic party we're gonna throw when you blow your (meager collection of) irradiated brains out all over your disheveled office.
Seems like they're going to be shooting for an off election cycle coup, since their last one failed and its not quite time for the next window of opportunity.
The supreme court taking up Trumps case the most significant case in the history of the United States. It will decide if our constitution has any real meaning (in some ways, it determines the tests the very legitimacy of constitutionalism as a system). The language of the constitution, and the interpretation of this amendment is very cut and dry. No one can reasonably argue it wasn't designed, and intended to prevent Trump or Trump-like candidates. It was an insurrection against the United States of America. He not only partook in it, he led it, supported it.
So this may be a signal that Putin thinks the Supreme Court will rule against Trump. Go ahead and start seeding the doubt around the next election cycle now.
It may also be a sign for something far more nefarious, that perhaps rather than allowing a ruling to happen, Trump goes for a coup-in-name-only, makes the claim that the election was stolen, and that he is 'President-in-Abstentia' sitting in Moscow. Then gets his lackies to make road blocks across the country, idk.
He's right you know. He's just not saying it's the Republicans who are benefitting.
Supreme Court nominations, Republicans benefit. Voter suppression/intimidation, Republicans benefit.
Recounting elections (Gore vs Bush), Republicans benefit.
Tossing votes before they get counted, Republicans benefit.
Articles like this just prove that this country isn't really paying attention anymore. Everybody has mentally checked out. And I don't blame them, this is exhausting. But it's all to the Republicans benefit.
And these stupid americans would pay for something that is completely free with our revolutionary Distant Electoral Voting system based on a blockchain technology!
You don't need rigged elections if you have secret services with mindcontrol technology, the political actors will just be good looking marionettes at the end of the day, the perfect fascist wet dream comes to reality..