Republican Senator Gives Away the Game on Why They Killed Border Deal

You see, we don’t want to actually do anything about the border, we just want to yell about it. — Rs

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Republicans for the last four years and more:

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- Republicans since, at the very latest, Obama took office.
  
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- Technically they don't give a shit, mostly. They just want their voters to be mad.
  
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"Senator, is this deal dead, effectively?” Fox News’s Laura Ingraham asked Hawley Thursday evening.

“I hope so,” Hawley said. “It should be. If it’s not dead yet it should be dead. There is absolutely no reason to agree to policies that would further enable Joe Biden.”

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Of course. Hawley is a traitorous coward.

Republicans would rather tank the country than pass good law under a Democratic president.

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And they have on more than one occasion. It blows my mind that anyone could think of them as the fiscally responsible party. Then again, they also pretend to be the party of morality, so that all tracks.

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- They are fiscally conservative in name only.
  
  This just happened in my state when Democrats wanted to provide breakfast and lunch for students. A Republican said "But we can hire more teachers!"
  
  Someone asked, "So you would support a bill using this money to hire more teachers?"
  
  You can imagine his response.
  
  These assholes use these excuses to get in the news and get in sound bites. They should never be trusted by themselves.
  
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If the Dems agreed to a Republican law, the Republicans would probably filibuster their own law.

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- That is what happened here. Republicans came to the table and said “we will give you Ukraine aid if we get a border deal”. Biden undercut progressives and started making offers that Republicans wanted for Ukraine aid and to put his name on the border deal. So Republicans took their ball and went home.
  
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- There was an amendment to Obamacare that was almost exactly that. It was hilarious, except for how they spun it for the next decade.
  
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Here is the key part the whole article is about:

“Senator, is this deal dead, effectively?” Fox News’s Laura Ingraham asked Hawley Thursday evening.

“I hope so,” Hawley said. “It should be. If it’s not dead yet it should be dead. There is absolutely no reason to agree to policies that would further enable Joe Biden.”

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Because they are complete shitstains?

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They are so weak. There was bipartisanship until Trumpler criticized the bill. The GOP has no spine.

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- Honestly if the RNC had just put its foot down in 2016 and said "no, we will not be associated with Trump because the man is a fucking idiot" they would have eaten the loss in 2016, but would probably be in a much better place electorally now.
  
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Spitballin here. What if we completely removed border patrol from the border and never arrested a migrant again. Take all those agents. Their full time job now is surprise inspecting every employer in america at random. Mandatory fine of $40,000 per undocumented worker caught being employed. Also first offense we pull your business license for 30 days. Second offense shut you down for 90 days. Third offense liquidate your business forever. How would our "border crisis" look at that point? Think about it. Remember during the drug war when we arrested users and left dealers and smugglers alone? Me neither. This is more in line with what youd actually be seeing if politicians actually gave a rats ass about the BoRdEr cRiSIs

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You’d destroy multiple industries that result on exploiting illegal migrants, and low cost labor from those with green cards. Hospitality, sanitation, meat packing, construction, agriculture, etc all would come up floaters

The whiplash from average Americans would be incredible. We’ve priced in domestic exploitation into several industries, and US consumers have come to demand it, and more.

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- so what I'm hearing is that America doesn't run on Dunkin', it runs on exploitation
  
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- It's a good point, but at the same time this isn't indefinitely sustainable. Something has to give here. It's morally reprehensible that we exploit the desperate and vulnerable for cheap labor. It's economically dangerous that so many of our domestic industries are reliant on an illegal sub-minimum wage workforce. Both situations are breeding grounds for worse abuses like human trafficking and embezzlement.
  
  I don't have a solution to this problem, but kicking the can down the road isn't a solution and doesn't seem like a healthy choice.
  
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- See the problem is that I like cheap produce. The companies can afford to sell cheap produce and pay better though they won't. So they abuse this type of labor.
  
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- Fuck em.
  
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I understand the point you're making, but it's still a massive waste of money to police a made up crisis.

It would make way more sense to document these people and give them a tax ID number to allow them to work legally. This would force employers to pay them at least minimum wage, provide worker protection measures, and pay payroll tax, and would allow citizens to compete with immigrants on their own merits. I suspect that immigrants would continue doing the exact same kinds of jobs they currently do, because they're mostly jobs Americans don't want, but without the level of exploitation.

As I said, this "crisis" is a made up one, one that's composed entirely of racism. If it was a real crisis, and not political theater, the Rs wouldn't want to wait nearly a full year to address it.

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You forgot the part where we give work permits and union training seminars freely.

You're absolutely right about controlling demand versus supply in a capitalist system. You can't block supply. It's never worked.

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That's a great way to enable fascists like ICE who'd just exploit such policies to throw Hispanic people into concentration camps. They've been doing it since Obama. True facts, look it up

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- They've been doing it since FDR.
  
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ICE literally does that and people lose their fucking minds.

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- No they don't. They deport the guy working for his family and fine the employer. Imagine the opposite situation where working illegally was a fine and employing illegal workers was losing your business license.
  
  That's how they punish underage drinking. It's a massive issue for bars, and a small issue for the kid. Consequently, no bars serve underage kids. It works.
  
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Well sure. They want to campaign on it. It’s not as if they really want to end the availability of undocumented labor, too… definitely don’t want that. I mean, which industries depend on the 8-10 million people working in the US illegally? Their goal is to campaign on it, and keep immigrants marginalized so their buddies can keep screwing legal workers and taking advantage of undocumented ones.

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This isn't a surprise if you've listened to conservatives talk amongst themselves.

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The GOP wants to rule, not govern.

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Like when he spilled the GOP strategy to use the repeal of Roe to further sort voters and get a GOP advantage in the Electoral College: https://www.businessinsider.com/josh-hawley-overturning-roe-v-wade-help-republicans-electoral-college-2022-6

What a dumbass.

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Could it be because they're not genuinely interested in governing? I'm not gonna read the article because I already know the answer. Fuck the GOP.

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Could it be because they’re not genuinely interested in governing?

The Border Crisis is predicated on US Senators shrugging their shoulders and insisting there's nothing to be done. This helps defer more power to the courts (where they were more than eager to govern by stacking the bench with far-right white nationalists) and to the border states (where guys like Abbot can poke a drowned kid with a stick under a giant "Mission Accomplished" banner to look tough on crime).

As soon as Trump is back in the White House, you can guarantee they'll produce all sorts of sadistic legislative reforms that they can ram through a flimsy Democrat opposition.

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The republican traitor swine must be dealt with in the harshest possible manner allowable by law.

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oh you sheeple of the law... when will you realize that nothing will ever change if we continue to work within the bounds of the law?

i agree with your sentiment and emotion, but we gotta start playing dirty if we ever want anything other than this dystopia.

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They killed it? That's odd, Schumer just announced they'll be voting on it next Wednesday!

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Yeah, the vote is going ahead but unfortunately

Speaker Mike Johnson reportedly warned it would be "dead on arrival."

Article here.

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- MAGA "Moses Orange Ass Kisser" Mike Johnson reportedly warned it would be “dead on arrival.” With offer any reason why, other than stinky orange said so
  
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- It's possible, likely even, that House Republicans will kill the Border Deal but as of today the headline is misleading. It's not even been voted on in the Senate yet, let alone "killed" by the House.
  
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The GOP in general seem to be very ineffective civil servants.

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Their purpose is to destroy the government. They have repeatedly said this since the 1980's.

Can we stop being surprised?

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Is it legally possible to recall all of Congress and Senate and demand all new representatives?

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The US doesn't have dissolution of congress, no

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Get out and vote.

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That's not a solution and it's lazy.

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Can we get a site that isn't serving full page malware clicks?

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I mean, just use uBlock like a normal person. All these news sites are crawling with pop-ups and fly-in ads, now that the industry's revenue stream is predicated on getting confused elderly patrons to accidentally purchase a sybian.

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- emphatically buzzing
  
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They'd rather one of their own - preferably tiny d - was sitting on a throne of swords and the country in utter shambles than actually provide proper stewardship of this country and be out of power or have to compromise with the normal Americans in this country.

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come on in everybody. let's all bitch and moan about the shitty conservative republicans while never discussing what to do about it. it's like group therapy for limp-wristed liberals.

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lol wtf are you supposed to do about it, try to smuggle a bomb into the RNC? attempt to assassinate conservative politicians? or do you think you can just "democracy" your way to getting rid of this cancer? the first two sound like something that'd backfire in plenty of ways, and the last one is a laughable suggestion at this point.

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- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Freedom_Front
  
  idk man. i guess you can just be a hopeless apathetic do-nothing that gets ground up by capitalism and leaves a hellscape dystopia for future generations to inherit.
  
  edit: aw look, the liberal pansies are downvoting me because they can't deal with the reality of the situation. sorry cucks, evil wins when good people do nothing.
  
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you are so right, we should all be a little more rational, and say... decapitate a family member on youtube.
edit: because someone in this thread is unironically using words like "sheeple" and "limp-wristed" I should clarify that my comment is obvious sarcasm.

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- that dude was an unhinged idiot and accomplished nothing for his cause. he's a portrait of a fragile mind that lashes out irrationally. if you want change, you get smart, tactical, and clandestine.
  
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Vote them out? What the fuck do you think we should do? I propose eating them but people call me extreme.

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- i'm personally in favor of eating them too. also, this:
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Freedom_Front
  
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