Sometimes I forget they even allow this. Finish the fucking thing before adding extra shit. How can an unfinished thing even have extra shit?

Good point, but Crowder can suck a dick.

Tell us how you feel about Star Citizen.

Because Steven Crowder doesn't deserve to be a meme

I thought we were going to use the Calvin and Hobbes template from now on?

Stop fucking buying fucking early access fucking games. Companies do shit like this because it's profitable

Meanwhile, ConcernedApe is out there quietly adding more and more free features to an eight year old game: Stardew Valley. All while working on a completely new title that will release... eh, eventually.

I have no issue with people shipping unfinished products, as long as they're transparent about it. But using it as a way to lower expectations for a buggy "final" product, while charging more for the updates, is just crummy. At least bundle it in, turn off "early access", and raise the price appropriately. If it has DLC, the core game is "done" in my book.

Edit: thanks for the robust conversation on this thread.

I'll add this clarification: clearly there are outliers and exceptions to all this. It's entirely possible to have something incomplete, and still be worth treating like a full release, DLC and all.

To me, I think the key dividing line is determined by the overall "buginess" or "playability" of the product. If something has broken mechanics or is full of game-destroying bugs, and it negatively impacts the overall fun factor, that's the case I'm talking about here. As a game's main job is to package joy for other people, it's pretty easy to see how a developer or publisher is just seeking a payday at your expense.

Stop using this fucking idiot for your memes, there's alternatives if you need them, but this dude objectively sucks.

Y'all keep buyin that shit tho why would they stop

Use Calvin and Hobbes template or something like this instead

Fuck that bigot

Someone needs to make a new template with that bigot photoshoped out

I mean, do that, and they'll just stop labeling the games as early access while still being in the same unfinished state, meaning people can't even decide if they want to avoid a game or not based on that label.

You know that would only lead to more games being published as 'a finished product' eventhough they really are not. It would make the problem worse, not better.

For sale: baby tiara, never worn.

I would consider selling something like a soundtrack acceptable but no game content dlc, absolutely.

Also also: can we make it that developers have only one Early Access game at a time. Finish the game before moving on to the next one, or abandon it and release it without the EA label.

I think thor said it best, horse armor made more money than starcraft 2 expansion. Thus was the beginning of shit DLC cash grabs

We as gamers who want this are completely outdone by the insane amount of money some people will spend in this market. Change my mind.

PS. I hate the DLC and micro transaction market as they exist today. But they make 1000x the old market so no way anything changes.

I don't buy early access so I didn't even know :O

This is actually one of the rare times that I fully agree with the everyday consumer when it comes to Early Access. I absolutely 100% agree with this statement if you are still an early access there should not be paid DLC, perhaps they should be able to have free DLC the workshop but definitely should not be allowed to have paid dlc/expansions

I feel pretty meh about cosmetic micro transactions, so if they wanna include cosmetic micro transactions in the early access to test it out, then meh. But they should be free during early access and then reset it when the game is released. EA is for testing.

While I understand the point this meme is making, I can't wholeheartedly agree with condemning games labeled early access. Basically every modern AAA game comes out buggy, undercooked and unfinished, which means it's in early access. Games not being labeled as such doesn't change the fact that it's not finished. Pokemon Scarlet and Violet were trash games, buggy as hell and completely unfinished. For all intents and purposes, they should have been labeled Early Access.

The sad reality is that games being released in "Early Access" is not a detriment to 99.9% of consumers, so it's going to keep happening.

This would also incentive devs to actually finish their game instead of getting stuck in early access limbo

I like your sentence structure. ADHD?

I've never seen a game in early access have dlc, only micro transactions for stuff like cosmetics and boosts. Can you give me an example of dlc on an early access game?

Early Access can be easily abused. That's why I don't bother with it at all.

Tower Unite 😒

Space engineers had joined the thread

They need a category for long term alphas 5+ years

Transactions = more money for Steam

Disrupt this incentive loop (somehow) and then we can all have nice things.

I just realized something about this meme. It is so old that when I first saw it the man looked old to me but now looks young to me.

No one forced you to buy it. If you know it's bad then just don't buy it. If something is bad then I wouldn't buy it and I don't give a rat's arse about it. Why can't you do the same?

You can't tell people how they must spent their own money.

If people wanna buy dumb shit, let ‘em.

wonder if steam gets 30% of all that too

I wanted to challenge this but I can't think of a single early access that I have that tried it, I can only think of ARK and they got roasted for it, even more so when people discovered that ATLAS was a reskin of ARK.

Then don't buy it. Nothing wrong with it.