I made wanderer - a self-hosted trail and GPS track database
Over the last two months, I developed wanderer. It is a self-hosted alternative to sites like alltrails.com or in other words a self-hosted trail database. It started out more as a small hobby project to teach myself some new technologies but in the end, I decided to develop it into a fully-fledged application.
Core Features:
Manage your trails
Extensive map integration and visualization
Share trails with other people and explore theirs
Advanced filter and search functionality
Create custom lists to organize your trails further
Strava has continued to enshittify the app to the point that I'm getting ads after every activity. Anyway, I decided to delete it after yesterday's run and will keep an eye on this project. Thanks!
You mean after the price hike they also hiked the number of ads? I canceled when they hiked the price and managed to get it down to the old price a few months later, so I renewed for the personal heatmap. Looks like I'm definitely canceling again. I doubt they'll give me the price break twice anyway.
Baking ads into a timeline like Strava and some other apps do has to be the worst app trend ever.
I removed my account a few years ago when they moved a bunch of features behind their paywall. I'm perfectly fine just using Garmin's built in 'news feed' and tracking without giving my data to another company.
As someone interested in self-hosting this, I have two questions:
How far is it suitable for say a local hiking association or a small municipal government to use this as a public trail database to promote regional eco-tourism efforts? Where I live the local government has something like that, but it is badly maintained. For that to work it would need to have the ability to easily find trails on an overview map and to allow posting notices about trail closures etc. (ideally even crowd sourced?) Maybe also some way to mark trails as official, if they are designated and sign-posted.
Unrelated: have you thought about allowing the live-tracking via apps like Phonetrack or OSMand? I think that would make it both more convenient for uploading tracks (at least where there is sufficient cell-coverage) and might add an interesting social aspect to it if you can share your live-location with other users.
Thanks for promoting wanderer!
Finding trails on the map should be no problem, you can currently mark trails as public so that not logged-in users can see the trail. I have thought of steering wanderer towards a more socially interactive platform. I think a good first step would be to allow comments and implement a rating system.
Thanks for the crowdsourced translation website. I was looking for something like this. I will set it up and add it to the contributing section of the documentation.
Would be nice with activity pub support for sharing planned and recorded trails. Cone to think of it. Does it make that distinction? Planned vs recorded? How about a planning, route finding mode?
I'm not sure if I understand your question correctly. Do you mean creating a trail from scratch on the map without recording it before? That is indeed on my roadmap.
I think you might misunderstand what wanderer does. It is not a maps service like Open Street Maps. It's simply a database in which you can store your GPS tracks. So the workflow would look like this: you are in the woods and record your track (e.g. with osmand) -> you store your track in GPX format -> you upload your track (and any additional info like a description or photos) to wanderer -> before your next adventure you check wanderer to decide what you want to do
Soooo cool!
If it could get from gpx the dates when activities where made, autoimport multiple gpx files, bug fixing, tableview (small overview from all activities) it will be my Strava killer..
I've done that, all containers report healthy, but still can't connect. I've tried changing ORIGIN to ip;port, domain: port, still nothing. Really weird.
This is very nice :) I was working on a proof of concept similar to this to have a quick search functionality for FrankenJura (german hiking database) but it was lost in a drawer due to lack of time 😁 Great work and thanks for sharing it :)
If I recall correctly, I couldn‘t find API endpoints back then and had to browse/prse the pges based on the regions and the links on the landing pages 😅
Nice ! You made me think of spinning up a little server. It's been a while since I've dabbled in managing a server and not aure I have the time for that.
But you made the chances if me going for it much higher.
Absolutely. I have it running on a Pi 5 and that's more than enough. You only need 1GB of RAM when first starting wanderer. After that it sits at around 100Mb.
These may be answered elsewhere, but like some other interested people in this post, I fully intend on trying to load a copy of this when I get home from vacation.
What methods/devices do you use to upload/sync the data? Other than a regular smart phone, were you able to use other GPS enabled devices like garmin or apple smart watches?
You can use whatever device you prefer. In the end, you simply need a GPX file that you upload through the web UI or the API. I am planning to support other formats like KML soon, though.
System requirements should be quite low. On the first startup you will need ~1GB of RAM. After that, the whole stack sits at around 100MB on my machine.
I've been willing to learn more about programming with location/map data so definitely checking this out.
Are you looking for contributions or help on anything?
I think I might at least look at providing a Dutch translation for the front-end if you're accepting PRs.
Super cool thank you for making this! I just got a bike for the first time in over 20 years and I'm ready to explore my area. I have been trying out those other apps like all trails and trail forks, everything being so paywalled is frustrating.
The bike I just got, it's a beaut. A Clem Smith Jr. L from Rivendell Bike Works. I'm loving just scoping out parts and things but it's a super great bike already.
I look forward to trying this out and thanks again!
I tried Wanderer few days ago and I did find it very nice, yet quite buggy.
I was forced to update the page a second time before being able to do something, for an example using the menu.
But other than that, I find Wanderer very nice! Just miss seeing mainly how fast I was travelled in km/h. The statistics and details provided in workout-tracker1 is absolutely amazing! If you add such details into your project, that would be awesome!
Very nice :) Me like! But the bug is still there when you have clicked on a trail on the home page. The page just scrolls up to the top and you have to update the page to see the trail.
Because using a containerization system to run multiple services on the same machine is vastly superior to running everything bare metal? Both from a security and a ease-of-use standpoint. Why wouldnt you use docker?