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1y ago

Applying for jobs in L.A.

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The top one deserves to be highlighted as well.
What if you worked 20 years for the same employer before that?
- The bottom part too, considering all this stupid shit is for a part-time position.
  
  I just realized how much worse it actually is. A part-time job that requires you to sign a Non-Compete Agreement.
- My sister ran into that - got let go from her first job, which she had worked at for 10 years. She just provides references from that job, and no one brought it up.
- Just give them the number of 3 friends (who are in on it ofc.)
  
  Yeah I’ve been references for many friends. Usually they don’t call and if they do it’s chill.
- dsfgasfsaf

Other than the crazy horoscope stuff, a job wanting you to sign an NDA and a Non-Compete likely know they are a shitty place to work and won't to keep you there so you can't go somewhere else and also not able to tell anyone how shitty it is. They probably already know Non-Competes in California have been unenforceable for a long time but they don't want you to know that.
- Didn't the Feds just recently make non competes unenforceable?
  
  Yes but in California they have been unenforceable for almost everyone for many years.
  
  I think not just that, they mandate employers to tell you they are.
  This might be, but definitely should be, illegal.

They review you based on a fucking horoscope?
- Horoscopes have a higher chance of getting me a job than those stupid ass "personality tests" though
  
  whatever triple scorpio
  
  Wait they aren't asking for a combination horoscope personality test?
- Not a protected class but listed as part of the requirements, sounds like a constructive way of refusing or dismissing persons they don’t want for reasons that are protected

I did a lot of job applying recently. Many employers were never considered after I was made aware of how their application process worked. It got to the point where if they made me fill out a form of info that was already on my resume, I wouldn’t apply.
If it takes 10 steps to even get some AI bullshit to read my resume, imagine the nightmare working for the company.
I was hired at company that had an easy application process, interviewed me in-person the next day, and I was offered the job 3 days later (2 were the weekend). Even though the job offered less pay than I value myself at, I knew it was a company worth working for.
- I was just talking with my mom about this and had no idea… is AI really taking over the job application process? It was hard enough going through it when there were actual humans evaluating you, somehow this sounds way worse though
  
  Sadly this has been used for longer than you might expect. Using the term AI to describe the practice is fairly new, but computers have been selecting resumes for humans to look at for many years. They may have called it “screening” or using an “algorithm” -made more complex with the wide adoption of LLMs and other types of AI tools.
  You can find stories of colleges and companies getting in trouble for unintentionally racist algorithms from, at least, a decade ago. That would indicate that they have been in use for longer than that, potentially since the early 00s.

The fun thing about bs hiring practices like astrology is how it's bs and can be used as cover for discrimination.
"Sorry, it's not that you're brown....it's that you're a Pisces..."
- it's that you're a Pisces
  This explains a lot for me...
  
  Applies for a position as director of marketing.
  "Sorry, you're a Pisces."
  Why Pisces!? 😭
- If this is not an acting job or similar that requires a younger person, asking for a birthday is begging to be sued over discriminatory hiring practices.

I would never apply for a job wanting to ask for something so ridiculous like my horoscope.
But then, as a Pisces, I'm naturally skeptical.

aren't noncompete agreements illegal in California now?
- The funny thing about the way the law works is that it's only illegal if you get caught.
  
  I wonder if you could apply to this job; interview; get the job; sign the NDA; then sue the company for making you sign an NDA and quit.
  
  Price we pay for a justice system with a presumption of innocence
- The FTC issued a nationwide ban on noncompete agreements on April 23.

This looks like age discrimination in disguise

IANAL, but I think non-competes are illegal in Cali.
- They're illegal federally now.
  Thanks Biden's FTC
- NDAs are also very restrictive in what's covered. Non-competes are banned across the country now.
- I agree, non-competes are illegal in California and some_guy does ANAL
  
  With gusto!

I'm pretty sure this could be considered religious discrimination
- Yeah I'm sure star sign is not a protected class but you could make a pretty good case that it 1) cannot be changed, and 2) falls under a "strongly held belief" or whatever it is in California.
  It would get really messy if they were applying to work in a crystal healing place. Make it into a bonified qualification fight, etc.
  
  Children of different religions tend to be born at different times because their conception tends to happen on religious holidays.

So the hands on interview is a tarot reading?

I don't even get to step 2
- Yeah, I've got one. The others are retired or dead.

"Part-time"
Jfc

Applying for nutjobs?

I thought non-competes were not applicable in California?
- Nowhere in the u.s.
  https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/04/ftc-bans-noncompete-clauses-declares-vast-majority-unenforceable/
  Disclosure: I'm a Leo
  
  Good point, I was thinking of even before that FTC declaration though.

Maybe if it was full time but for part time?

Fuck that. Get a job through your friends and family.

Always suspected Cali was full of loonies. Had no idea they extended so high though
- The city in colombia?

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