'Babbling' and 'hoarse': Biden's debate performance sends Democrats into a panic

Are you willing to let Trump win though than have Biden step aside? That is what the DNC should be asking themselves. The polls are way to close for Biden to have that poor of a performance. If Democrats are seriously worried about Trump being the end of Democracy then they would not be okay with Biden being the DNC's best choice.

Now I'm sad because I remember wishing Bernie had won.

Embarrassment and danger.

We'll need to see the polling in about a week but I haven't seen a performance this bad since Palin. The Democrats may need to go to an open convention.

I’m fully willing to endure 4 years of Weekend at Bernie’s if it means I won’t have to go through the embarrassment of having the orange moron at the helm.

DEAR PLEASE GOD someone turn this into comedic satire before the election!!!

I would. You would. But there are millions of voters who aren’t as informed. And what they saw last night was an ancient, out of touch candidate channeling Walter Mondale. Many will probably still vote for him, but this performance will depress voter turnout.

After he wins the election, he could retire and let Harris rule in his stead.

Then there's Schumer (provided he's still the majority leader.)

There really is no need for a weekend at Bernie's situation.

Biden's performance wasn't an impediment. It was him fumbling and stuttering over his words, forgetting his debate prep and saying nonsensical things. I absolutely do not want Trump to win, but Biden's debate performance in reality was poor. Many Democrats don't want to accept that. It is fine if they want to ignore facts. The truth is the Democrats would be far better off if Kamala or AOC or someone else was running for President, and they are risking way too much despite the facts.

I watched it and this wasn't a stutter. This was a loss of his train of thought, switching topics unexpectedly, and creating needless openings for Trump to talk about things Biden didn't have a good defense for. To be clear his decision making faculties are obviously intact. But this performance was really really bad. Night and day from 4 years ago.

Exactly. I guess we are learning that most of our fellow citizens have a hard time with nuance, and all they can do is shit their pants instead of toughen up.

Did you see the audience metrics during his last presidency?

How come when they show old campaign videos of Biden where he's plagiarizing others his so called stutter/speech impediment doesn't seem to be there? And I thought the new excuse was that Biden had a cold anyway

Joe's a racist too. His immigration policy is identical to Trump's and he's been outspoken in his seeing palestinians as subhuman.

The guy fought against school integration even before he got this old. He's always been a racist pos same as any Republican.

Bernie Sanders would have eaten Trump alive in every debate, including this last one.

Dem leaders prefer Trump to a real structural progressive economic reform.

The billionaires buy both parties now. Capitalism sucks chunks.

The billionaires of today love the status quo.

He could energize the electorate by ending the genicide in Palestine, nationalizing the rail industry or Boeing, expanding the Supreme Court and investigating their corruption, or displaying unlimited support for clean energy and dismantling the fossil fuel industry. But I doubt any of that will happen.

I think we've been operating on the false assumption that the Democratic partys primary goal is to win. I would wager that as far as campaign contributions go, it's likely better for them financially if they barely lose. I feel like the past few presidential races have been the American populace trying to force them to win anyways when they obviously didn't want to.

A lot of their decisions make a lot more sense in that context.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Show real people who have been helped by Biden's policies in the commercials.

People don't trust institutions anymore. They don't trust authority anymore. But put a real person in front of them and there's a chance a plurality won't call them paid actors and will understand that things are getting better.

You could call your congressional representatives asking that they encourage Biden to step aside for a better candidate.

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There will be other elections. And more debates including the VP one. Maybe we will get lucky and one of them will die.

the take away from social media is fascinating, especially on the lemmyverse: the pejorative stores about biden's performance are everywhere online and tv, but heavily downvoted on .world while the rest of the lemmyverse is much more closely matched with everything else in the world.

seeing every single media outlet openly say 'that was a disaster, he should probably be out.’

So it should be easy to source a couple of them saying that, right?

I literally counted every one of Convicted Felon and Sex Offender Treason Trump's lies and the total was over 200.

As for Biden, I am deeply hoping that behind the scenes other Dem politicians are furiously trying to convince Biden to drop out and be replaced with Gavin Newsom. The party rules are that Biden would need to agree to formally release his delegates. But since Biden has maintained all along that he only ran to keep Treason Trump out of office, I think it would be possible to persuade Biden to drop out. Leave Harris as VP because she would need to have buy in as well. The convention is not till August so it doesn't have to happen tomorrow but it does need to happen before the convention so they need to start working on it right now.

When asked if he supports some restrictions on abortion, Biden said he “supports Roe v. Wade, which had three trimesters. The first time is between a woman and a doctor. Second time is between a doctor and an extreme situation. A third time is between the doctor, I mean, between the women and the state.”

I expected nothing and I was still disappointed.

Well get ‘em next time. Oh wait…

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She's not Trump. People would vote for her.

The only realistic person who would replace Biden is Kamala Harris, and I don’t think people would vote for her.

Nope. We need Gavin Newsome. If Biden released his delegates they would not be bound to Harris they could vote for anybody. But it would be helpful to have her buy in and I think she should be kept on the ticket as VP.

Traitorapist.

OMG Awesome label! I am so stealing that from you!

Traitorapist

Oh come on, you're not even trying now, lol

In this instance, the moderators specifically refused to be fact checkers and declared that fact checking would be left to the candidates. It was a bit of a missed opportunity that Biden didn't refute more of Trump's falsehoods.

Wow, you're smart! You should be president! You can fix everything right?

Jesus effing Christ, if this huge difference in energy was down just to some misfortunate cold at the time of the debate, it would be one of the most unfortunate timings. I don't know if Trump would agree to a second debate now that he's reaped some positives (or more like negatives for Biden), and also on another network that does any fact-checking. So sadly this failed debate might turn to be a pivotal point for the election.

They forgot to give him his stims last night /s

Can you spread that enthusiasm to 82 million more people?

On average, we respond solely to voice pitch, tonality, body language and facial expressions, like a still developing toddler... Or a dog.

And so knowing that, the DNC should have put somebody up who appeals to those... dogs.

Like, obviously the smart decision is to vote for Biden anyway, but fuck me if they aren't making this November win, what should be a slam dunk against a fascist, the most difficult in recent history.

If Trump wins, the DNC owes us blood.

Or a gorilla, but I think a gorilla is too much credit.

There’s a rumor that they are going to replace Biden with Jimmy Carter, so he can get a second term. I joke.

Bruh he sounded ancient. I actually found it challenging to follow what he was saying.

he wasn't so bad in 2020. he just aged a lot

That would be way too risky, and I like Obama and Biden wasn't even my first choice!

Sanders, on the other hand...

Immune systems of 80 year old men are notoriously not great.

Because one of these wants to destroy democracy and the right of many people to even exist.

But tell me again how the tangerine terror isn't going to corrupt everything....

I don’t care if Biden is senile and incoherent,

There is not a big overlap between what skills a candidate needs and what skills a president needs. 99% of the job of president is to make decisions. That's the job. Even if he lost his voice entirely and was in a wheel chair like FDR, he could still make excellent decisions. President Biden absolutely killed it for 2 hours at the state of the union speech. Nobody who was "senile" could have done that.

I’ll still vote for him!”

Have you not been paying attention to current events? The country is at a critical junction between democracy and neofascism. OF COURSE I'm going to vote for the continuation of democracy. Anybody who does not would be an idiot. I would vote for a literal corpse over Convicted Criminal and Sex Offender Treason Trump.

One of these things is not like the other...

The system leaves us with a binary choice. Even the third "option" of inaction is essentially leaving it up to fate at best, and at worst is just handing the controls over.

The room you're in is sealed, filling with water, and you can access a snorkel or a fire hydrant.

Classic bloodfart.