Third Teen Worker Killed In Industrial Accident As States Try To Loosen Child Labor Laws
Third Teen Worker Killed In Industrial Accident As States Try To Loosen Child Labor Laws
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They're coming for your children!!!
Won't someone PLEASE (actually) think of the children?
Who in their right fucking mind thinks letting teenagers work at landfills, meat processing plants, and logging companies is a good idea?! I think the record clearly shows that teenagers don’t always make the best damn decisions. Jesus wept this shit is insanity.
Party of family values…. They’re going to extract every last drop of value from them kids.
Well it's their fault they weren't born rich brought to you by the party of family values, if your family cared they'd have made more money before you were born.
Who in their right fucking mind thinks letting teenagers work at landfills, meat processing plants, and logging companies is a good idea?!
Well when COVID killed off a bunch of your workforce because you pretended it didn't exist and you don't know how many because you refused to keep accurate counts, and a bunch more retired because they figured they were close enough and COVID gave them an excuse, and all the undocumented immigrants are leaving because you're passing laws targeting them and to them it's not worth the pittance you've been gleefully paying them under the table- well, you've got to get more slaves from somewhere, right?
The same kind of people who, in Florida, are going to teach kids that slavery "taught black people valuable life skills."
Remember kids, if your arm gets ripped off by a meat grinder, that's not a horrific and totally preventable accident. No, it's a "life skill" you've just learned! "Getting your arm ripped off is painful." If we don't have kids shoving their hands into meat grinders, how are they going to learn these life lessons?
But the funny economy line demands child sacrifice! You expect us to lost money? /S
Desperately poor people let it happen, and in this day and age have to let it happen. Meanwhile corpo fucking greed will take on anyone willing to work the shit wages those jobs offer.
The problem is that cheap labor in the form of teenagers drives down the pay for adults. These people think that letting their teens work may bring extra income for the household, but what's really happening is that they're now competing with their kids for the same jobs.
You are supposed to be 18 or older to work in meat processing. I saw an article that said false info may have been provided for that kid who came from a staffing agency (which may or may not be true). I don’t have an issue with a 16 year old working at a landfill or logging company. Both are probably good paying summer jobs and possibly where they would have ended up working after high school.
I do have a problem with unsafe working conditions, improper training, loose regulations, and lack of accountability. When money becomes more important than people bad things tend to happen to workers regardless of age.
Logging is actually a very unsafe and dangerous activity. Logging actually has a pretty high injury and fatality rate.
Landfills probably less so, but they really don't have very many jobs. You've got a couple of guys who maybe work the weigh stations doing paperwork, and then a few heavy equipment operators.
Really any job that includes operating heavy machinery with the potential to kill people really shouldn't be done by 16-year-olds.
I kinda agree with your last statement. Maybe add that certain jobs must not be performed by minors. Jayxson shouldn't be anywhere near dangerous machinery and Abbreeyeghl can't be near the incinerator.
I'm making fun of the parents btw and not the kids.
logging is actually one of the more dangerous jobs out there.
it is actually a much longer tradition to have child labor then not. But yeah it is horrible and man people just don't see it
Take a bow conservatives… you made this happen.
They have no shame. They will bow with the spotlight and smile while you seethe with rage.
They. Don't. Fucking. Care.
Well we obviously don't care about kids getting shot up in schools, so why the hell would we care about them getting killed on the job?
The people pushing child labor: "Kids getting killed in schools is a tragedy. They should be getting killed in manufacturing plants so we can at least extract some usefulness out of them before we dump their tiny corpses on the sidewalk!"
Yeah, how is the Orphan Crushing Machine supposed to run if the children don't deliver themselves for crushing?
Children getting killed at school is getting killed on the job. School (and learning) is their job.
This is what lack of unions gets you.
God dam right
The "pro-life" party strikes again.
They wanted to keep the kids alive so they could kill them. Must be more satisfying for them I guess.
Gotta be able to make a profit off of them. Can't do that if they aren't born.
Every time I think that the US is a civilized "first world" country, they find a way to remind me of the reality. It really is shocking how backwards some things are in certain states.
Hope you get a federal law to prevent similar accidents in the future...
They're not "first world" country, if you compare them to other "third world" countries, you'll notice only one difference - US is rich and that's it. Everything else they're just 3rd world country.
First world = aligned with Western forces after WWII
Second world = aligned with Russia
Third world = everyone else
That was the original meaning, yes, but now they're used to refer to a country's stage of development.
Child labor has always been legal and widely used in the US agriculture. In fact American agriculture it's pretty much dependent on farmers using their large families as free labor.
They're trying to expand that to other industries but of course it doesn't work so well without the equivalent of the farmer argument.
But if you're upset because of the child labor or human rights themselves then that ship has long sailed.
In fact American agriculture it’s pretty much dependent on farmers using their large families as free labor.
That was always the excuse, but there's already exceptions for a family owned business regardless of industry.
I grew up on a tobacco farm, and most of my uncle's had them too. So me and all my cousins worked in them pretty much since we could walk. It wasn't that bad because it was a family thing.
We could have done that legally without the agriculture exception though. Especially since it was family we never got paid.
What the agriculture exception did mean tho was other kids were actual employees on someone else's farm or chicken/turkey processing plant. And that's a whole nother story especially considering the type of person to hire a literal child to slaughter birds for 8 hours at a time with a 100 other employees in shitty conditions just doesn't give a fuck about any of the employees.
They just want an employee they can pay less and won't stand up for themselves
Yes I know that very well. In fact I took part in creating a exhibition about American Child laborers in the turn of the 20th century. It's just that news like this remind you how backwards the world's greatest superpower can be...
Here in New York most of the labor on big farms get done by migrants. The Mexicans know more about cows than the locals. Tho laws for maximum hours on farms is being reduced gradually from 60 to eventually 40 before you start to get overtime. So the agricultural industry here is making big moves to automation.
This is what libertarian politics enables. If they get their way, they'll all be snorting coke off the back of their 13-year-old wives while letting their 10-year-old children do all their work for them.
Not gonna lie, I was like "well at least they're having fun" until getting to where they were snorting their coke lol. That said, when I chuckled at orphan crushing machine memes, I didn't expect them to gradually materialize in the waking world.
This is what sickens me about America.
This country knows full well, what the right solutions are. We prop them on it's table every damn day. What does America do? Always going the opposite direction.
We worried about AI taking over jobs. It's happened and continues to happen, so we propped up UBI. America? "Naw, nah...no, you don't need that! Here, little Jack over there? Your boy right? Why, he's got too much time on his hands and plays too much video games. Now he needs to have a job. You'll let him get a job, won't you? If we lighten child labor laws some."
Fucking sickening, this country.
This country knows full well
This is the paradox. Are you sure this country knows? Why is the overwhelming majority in favor of capitalistic approaches which lead us exactly here? I don't think the country does know. Not really.
Who exactly is the country? The people who live here or the few at the top making the decisions? Because the people who live here know the answer the people making the decisions do t or at least predentend they don't
I think they know, just don't care.
After first exhausting every other option, we always do the right thing!
It seems strange to me that the framing of this is all about child labor laws--no one should have died working at any of these jobs, regardless of age--and OSHA is investigating all three incidents
They are framing it about child labor because a child died.
Who/What agency is investigating the death is not relevant to the fact that a child died while working in an industrial setting.
They are framing it the way they are because they do not think that children, or teens, should be legally able to work in these kinds of settings.
Part of the reason it that they died is probably related to being young, dumb and inexperienced.
The article points out:
The number of minors employed in violation of child labor laws has increased by 37% within the last year, according to a March report by the left-leaning Economic Policy Institute in Washington. The report identified 10 states that have introduced or passed bills within the last two years that would weaken child labor standards.
Adults tend to be less reckless around dangerous equipment, yet companies are increasingly breaking the law hiring underage workers leading to these types of accidents. The article highlights the trend of these inexperienced teenagers being hired to work jobs that have danger closer than they expect, loosening child labour laws a factor among that.
I really like your post. I would like to add some comments, though
Everyone who works in any kind of hazardous environment should watch this. Don't shake hands with danger folks. You have the right to refuse to do something you feel unsafe doing. Your life and limb are not worth it. Take your safety protocols seriously and don't let stupid people teach you to be complacent. Call out others. Turn those assholes in to OSHA, underfunded as they are.
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Thank you for sharing. Unfortunately, a child's prefrontal cortex (the rational, decision-making center of the brain) isn't fully developed until around age 25. Therefore, they physically lack the ability to fully comprehend the consequences of their actions — hence labor laws. Again, I appreciate you sharing this information; however, it works counter to the science and may perpetuate a potentially dangerous culture of "why didn't they just call OSHA" instead of a "why are they hiring children."
I entirely agree with you, but a part of safety culture is to protect yourself and others. To be clear, no child should ever be hired or near these kinds of environments. Child labor, period, is a travesty and doubly so in an industrial or hazardous environment. These environments are barely suitable for adults, especially in the protein industry. If you are working in a place like this where children are hired, don't be a bystander and let it happen. Speak up and hang these assholes out to dry. Complacency and indifference needs to stop, naive a goal as it is.
Based on the teams I have worked with in the past, people in their twenties are definitely just as bad as teenagers. Even people who are far old enough to know better still play stupid games and win stupid prizes.
More safety PSA:
The one thing I at least try and make sure those under and around me understand is they don't have to say yes. It doesn't even occur to them that they can refuse. Workers are told to shut up and take it enough at it is, no matter the job. Workers are told to work 12-16 hour shifts and be glad they have a job at all. We live in a shitty world and if this comment prevents even one person getting hurt, no matter their age, that is enough for me.
Final point is there are plenty of tasks that can be done with appropriate safety measures, but if you are still not comfortable, just don't do it. Nobody can force you to get in a lift or climb that high ladder. Can you potentially lose your job? Maybe, but better than you getting hurt or hurting someone else.
I work for a woke-as-fuck sustainable packaging company, and it's ridiculous to me how some manufacturers work.
It is totally possible to make large profits and not put people at undue risk. I have no pity for companies that don't have even that basic respect for their employees.
No offense to anyone, but "the country" is an abstraction they doesn't exist.
But helll yeah this country, it's people and institutions, know what the effects of labor laws do.
Most -- all? -- large pools of money are right wing and exploitive. Can anyone think of a major for profit, traded corporation, that isn't?
So yeah you me and everyone we know knows putting kids im dangerous jobs is fkn mean.
Money says, "what are you gonna do about it?"
We need to find ways. Unions are a big one.
For the dam time the gop does not care about protecting kids. It has never been about the kids it has always and will always be about hating the lgbtq community and non-whites.
For the last dam time part 2 electric boogaloo there is no shortage of people wanting to work. There is a shortage of pay! You pay people a real living wage and healthcare and you will have tons of people will be lining up to work.
And yet somehow corporations and their lapdogs (both the GOP and democrats) are making more money than ever. I'm still dumbfounded by it, i don't think it'll ever make sense.
Also, they hate women and the plebs trying to attain higher education just as much as the LGBTQ+ and POC communities, as evidenced by the lovely recent SC(R)OTU(M)S rulings.
Dying builds character
Holy fuck
Look, we know that people die in industrial accidents. Much more people die in them than these 3 every year. But not letting children work is kind of when Nazis segregated the Jews and made them poor. Maybe if we had industrial accident prevention in our schools this wouldn't happen.
Bad take.
Why?
This is what degeneracy looks like.
Geriatric cucks permitting kids working for the holy profit... FEMA camps staffed by Obama death panels...
Wat
I'm assuming this is what they are talking about... https://www.politifact.com/article/2009/dec/18/politifact-lie-year-death-panels/
They said:
This is what degeneracy looks like.
Geriatric cucks permitting kids working for the holy profit... FEMA camps staffed by Obama death panels...
You don’t believe in the death panels staffing FEMA camps thing… do you?
You know, if you actually lived in reality you might not be as sad.
Just a thought.
What in the right wing random bullshit word generator is this?
Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about?
Pro life until they can be pro teens dying for cooperate profit.
It isn't really pro life, it is anti-choice.
They are only against abortion BECAUSE they want more easily exploited children in labor positions that are entirely exploited
These’ll be those post-birth abortions they’re on about yes?