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The developer of new Steam roguelike Dice and Fold is “amazed by the reception” after launch, and launches its extreme mode update early.

www.pcgamesn.com Dice-driven new Steam roguelike “amazed” by sales, releases extreme update as thanks

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Sorry to go on a well-trodden tangent, but it really is unfortunate how diluted the term "roguelike" has become.

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- Let's just give up on "roguelike" and start calling traditional roguelikes "rogues".
  
  Sunless Sea is a roguelike, Nethack is a rogue.
  
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  I mean, we already have rougelites. It's just a lot of people aren't distinguishing between rougelikes and rougelites
  
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- Roguelike is almost never really used properly, as it should be a turn based, procedurally generated dungeon crawler with permadeath and no permanent upgrade system that makes the game slowly easier.
  There's maybe like three games from the last decade that actually fit the definition.
  
  Which is why it mostly changed to be Roguelite which pretty much just means "there's 'permadeath' but you gain exp/money to unlock buffs and you repeat until you manage to finish a run". It's used to very quickly explain the main gameplay/progression loop of any genre of game it's attached to.
  Kinda like how we use FPS because calling them all doomclones makes no sense - we just didn't pick a better name this time.
  
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  Roguelike just means Arcade-like nowadays. The mechanic of using currency or experience to boost the next run is only sometimes present
  
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  It certainly makes it hard for me, as a fan of actual games like Rogue, to find said games when the genre is so flooded with literally every other game out there.
  
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  I wonder if Slay the Spire counts or not
  
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Gmtk roll of the dice?

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It's a pretty cool game. I hate dice irl and they hate me but I had a hard time to put this game down. Bought it because I needed something small and relaxing to play.

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i hate roguelike games, its time wasting

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- All games are time wasting. Rogue-like games don't have no progress, it's just not the same kind of progress other genres tend to have.
  
  I think it's really funny to hate a certain genre of entertainment because it wastes time though. The ultimate point of all entertainment is to waste time and produce dopamine.
  
  I mean like, it's cool to not like rogue-likes because you don't like starting over. That's a valid opinion. But saying it's because you don't want to waste time is kind of hilarious
  
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- That's subjective, depends on what you expect from a game. Personally I love them because I just like learning, mastering and beating a system. Others might value a narrative or social aspects of gaming more, and that's allright.
  
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- i hate AAA games, its money wasting
  
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