I remember when visiting Dachau, the guide said photos were permitted but please no selfies. I had my SLR all ready, but after entering the gates it just didn't sit right. Didn't end up taking a single picture.
42Reminds me of the time I accidentally made the Nazi salute in Theresienstadt. That was... terrible.
You see, there's a part separate from the ghetto called the small fortress which was used to house political prisoners. I went all the way to the wall used for executions and wanted to take a photo of the area from there, but the sun was shining into the camera, so I tried covering it with my hand, but it was visible in the shot. So I slowly extended it, focusing on keeping the shadow on the camera and trying to find the right angle so it would not be in the shot.
Then I suddenly realised what it must look like and was absolutely mortified. Luckily nobody was looking in my direction at the time...
3
How many other places in the world could she have taken this photo? All of them.
As a start, 6 million Jews were exterminated in camps like this, as well as many, many others, including some of my relatives.
I have my views, and they aren't shared by everyone. I am obligated at times to go to a church, and as an atheist, I keep my mouth shut and let people observe their sacred places.
This location is sacred, to many people for many reasons. Nothing about it suggests "Look at me aren't I cute?".
The events that happened there represent some of the worst that man can do to thier fellow man. The defeat of that ideology and liberation of these camps represent the best that man has to offer.
Men women and children died there on mass because of who they were. Men died on mass to free, protect, and avenge those people.
When you are walking on someone's grave, please show respect. When you are walking on a peoples grave, yes, take a photo, commemorate your experience, and have the humility and humanity to do it in a way that honors those who died.
34En masse, but I can understand how you arrived at your spelling.
16You should never be obligated to go to Church. People are pushing their beliefs on you. You not fighting back isn't being polite rather it's refusing to stand up for what you believe.
-2Yeah, but boomers are the problem! /s
-11Wtf
8
The irony here is palpable: the author demands respect for the victims of historical atrocities while using language that inadvertently excludes and marginalises. Phrases like "the worst that man can do to their fellow man" and "the best that man has to offer" are not only outdated but also insensitive, as they ignore the gender inclusivity that should be a part of any respectful discourse. Furthermore, referring to the dead collectively as "men" fails to recognise the countless women and children who also suffered and perished. This linguistic insensitivity, while perhaps unintentional, detracts from the powerful message of the rant and reveals a blind spot in the call for inclusive and universal empathy.
-30- "Man" in certain contexts is shorthand for "Human" or "Humankind". Imagine how tedious it would be to write a sentence where everytime you wanted to use this shorthand, you'd instead "Men, Women and Children".
- OP even said "Men, women and children died because of who they were", so your point of "referring to the dead collectively as men" makes no sense.
- 99.9% of people reading OP's comment wouldn't have even begun thinking about this.
Overall, I think it's more insensitive to read a comment like OP's, and instead of taking the right point home and moving along, you decide to nitpick in an attempt at some sort of "Gotcha", which couldn't have been done more wrongly and with such confidence (or arrogance?)
18<insert crying baby gif>
8
I saw groups of highschool kids laughing and joking around at Dachau and lots of amateur insta models doing their little photoshoots. On a tour of Auschwitz, we got to the oven room and some older dudes immediately started snapping pictures of the ovens and were told to stop. Cameras on phones and constant access to social media have broken people's brains
26TBF I saw the same sort of thing at Terezin twenty five years ago. There was a big group of Czech high schoolers there on a field trip, laughing and joking and being teenagers and paying no attention to the exhibits at all. A lot of brains were broken even before social media.
6Why were they told to stop?
5Because it's a pretty solemn place... the guide was explaining how men, women, kids were burned - some alive - in these ovens because the Nazis didn't want to waste bullets or spend extra time on corpse disposal, and these middle aged dudes bust out their phones while the guy is talking and start taking pictures of the inside of the ovens with flash.
Maybe you have to have been there. The atmosphere at Auschwitz is incredibly heavy given all the terrible things that happened there. Everyone seemed pretty appalled at these guys' behavior. I was just a teenager, but I was pretty shocked.
25
Who doesn't like a good Genocide selfie
25“‘Ey yo! I’m killin’ it in these jeans, just like they was doin’ it in the Auschwiggy!”
23And here I sit watching Schindler's List. Trying to explain to my Filipino wife that some people don't believe it happened and those same people would do it again.
She's quite familiar with the Japanese horrors of WWII (mom was Japanese.) She's learning about Nazis now.
22She's learning about Nazis now?
Where do you two live?
(Better late than never, I suppose. Kudos to your wife for showing interest.)
3She's Filipino. In most parts of Asia, the holocaust is just another minor part of history. As far as horrific and evil events go, it's up there but hardly unique. There's a lot more focus on what the Japanese did during WW2, since that's the action that had a lot more impact on Asians.
8
I'm going to let one sliver of hope in humanity in and choose to believe that she's a descendant of Auswitz survivors and that this is her way of affirming that her family survived, thrived and looks good doing it, as a final fuck you to the Nazis. Like the smirk and the pose is her saying "this is how hard you failed fuckos".
14That's what I'd like to believe. Or part of a group they were trying to eradicate. "You're gone, we're still here."
9That's a nice headcanon
5I... don't know, man. That reeks of "Baby survives plane crash - everyone celebrates. (but FUCK the other 299 who died a horrible death, amirite?)"
-5You're right that baby should feel endless guilt and never celebrate surviving that plane crash. They should lie awake every night, thinking of how "it should have been me". They should spend their days with the weight of 299 destroyed families forever on their head because they survived.
Focus only on death and tragedy, never on life and miraculous survival. Interesting take.
7More appropriately
Baby survives terrorist bombing of a plane, everyone should celebrate. Its survival is not only the victory against great odds but also a victory against human indecency and atrocity.
It is IMO victory of the rest 299 too who couldnt survive.
2
There was even a website compiling selfies at Holocaust memorials.
12While covering your face with a self satisfied smirk. Puke
11Absolute idiocy.
10She’s brain dead
10Nice ass though, I like seeing it, by far, more than millions getting railed to their deaths
2You're saying that you like seeing millions getting railed to their deaths. Fucking Nazi scum.
(I'm joking, in case it's not apparent.)
2I've probably killed more Nazis in Wolfenstein 3D than there were actual Nazis fighting in WW2 so I think I know a little something about socking ole Adolf right on the kisser
You're welcome for my service, by the way
2
Is "Insta thots for liberty" a movement now?
1Germans have no humour, Polish even less.
1Oh my gawd! Visiting Auschwitz. There's like... So much history here! This track is like, really part of history and stuff. I can feel myself get totally smarter just being here!
-3
