I would say "take notes", but I know how underfunded your schools are

The only reason it worked is because the Millitary backed off after Parliament overturned it, despite the Millitary blocking access to the building from Parliamentarians. The Millitary isn't bound by some electoral laws of the universe, they just as easily could have said the vote was illigetimate. This is a unique circumstance and cannot be used as universal.

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The Millitary isn’t bound by some electoral laws of the universe, they just as easily could have said the vote was illigetimate.

Well I mean they are bound by laws, to the extent that laws have meaning. And responding to legal instruction would seem to validate the force and efficacy of the legal system, right?

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- Yes and no. Being bound by "legal" means is a pretense for civility, ie the social contract, but the millitary in no way must follow this. The Republic of Korea has had several millitary dictatorships, from Park Chung-hee to Chun Doo-Hwan, and to think any system is immune to such circumstances is false thinking.
  
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They did not back off after Parliament overturned it, they said they would uphold martial law until the president called it off. The president was the one who called it off after the vote from Parliament

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- My understanding is that Incel King threatened to continue it but backed off after the vote anyways as it seemed like he wouldn't have the continued support of the Millitary.
  
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It's not like Jan 6 2021 was a successful coup either tho?

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We're not at the end of the timeline at which that's determined completely yet.

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- Frankly, the American Civil War isn't really even completely settled yet.
  
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- Is South Korea? It was days ago. Hard to say what the future will hold. The Jan 6th comparison is apt, I think.
  
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Usually when you fail a coup you are dead, not re-elected.

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- Well, there was that one time in Munich back in 1923....
  
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What were their goals again? And did their goals get fulfilled?

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Letting the morons being ridiculous, accomplish nothing and then slowly throwing all of them to jail, not to create martyrs, was actually the best move.

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- The best move was from the officer who shot one of those terrorists. It's been nothing but kid gloves prior or since.
  
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- oh yeah, it totally stopped trump gaining power.
  
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Americans love fasicsm. That's why we voted for it. Despite the copious amount of warnings we received from the proto-fascist's ex-associates and top military personnel, not to mention unbelievably blatant examples from the proto-fascist himself.

Maybe we can have Nazi rallies at Madison Square Garden like we did in the 30s. We came pretty close a couple months ago.

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huh, turns out a country built on a bed of indigenous genocide and chattel slavery isn't a great place after all 🤔 interesting 🤔

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- I've been saying this for years 🤣
  
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Not all Americans

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30%

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What? Stop a fascist coup? South Korea is already owned by like 3 coporations its already fascist.

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Yeah this is a read on power that's made by babies and libs.

"They said the magic words that made the law spell work. Why can't you do that America???"

Yoon's coup failed because he failed to secure the centers of power (in SK this is literally the chaebol families) in his corner, not because the Parliament did a ritual.

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- Exactly. I would go so far as to say the Chaebols let this happen so that they could then have parliment "stop" it and get the people feeling good about parliment so when they turn around in a few months and pass some super crazy laws people wont care.
  
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Also a two party system with the one they consider being centrist having an ethnic supremacy wing.

The Koreas seem to be just slightly different flavors of authoritarian dystopias.

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- Um no. You can take the DPRK slander somewhere else.
  
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- Also a two party system with the one they consider being centrist having an ethnic supremacy wing.
  
  That's mostly result of being occupied by a militant fascist nation who tried to do several decades of cultural genocide.
  
  The people's power party's version also has an ethnic supremacy wing, but for the Japanese. The new right movement somehow has some weird Koreans that want to restore imperial Japanese power in Korea.
  
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- I don't understand how so many Americans buy the "North Korea is a cartoonish dictatorship" line so easily. It's obvious that you can make up any story about it, no matter how outlandish, and the media will just print it uncritically.
  
  It's like a kid making up crazy stories about their cousin. The kid is full of shit half the time -- you don't believe the other half, you conclude that nothing that kid has to say about his cousin is reliable.
  
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americans: "yeah so life sucks over here"
europeans: "lmfao rip bozo holy hell am i glad i'm not you"

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The American way is to bail them out financially, then re-elect them.

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"Rest of the world"

In my limited knowledge, that only recently applies to Brazil. For South Korea, it's too early to know for sure how stuff will develop.

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Yeah, Americans reading this on lemmy! Why didn't you stop... something... from happening?? You definitely are the demographic who supports maga and also definitely have the ability to change the results of an election.

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The right wing propaganda machine is too powerful. A close friend of mine works a trade and he's constantly being engaged with right wing talking points. He voted for Trump. He lives with another close friend who has a master's in history who constantly refutes all the talking points but I doesn't matter when all his coworkers, his social media and online media are riling him up with this shit.

At my job I've spoken to Hispanics, that can barely speak English, that are die-hard Trump fanatics. Feels like I'm taking crazy pills.

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We’re too fat.

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I thought this was referring to the gifts the United Healthcare CEO got yesterday.

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South Korean law is apparently very peculiar. Hard to directly transfer this lecture to other countries.

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The people didn’t hold President Yoon accountable. Parliament did.

We have the same system in the US. Congress holds the US President accountable the same way Parliament held Yoon accountable, with a vote.

The problem is that we voted in a fuckton of Trump loyalists as a nation, and it’ll be up to them to hold him accountable. We’ll get what we asked for.

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The problem is, we voted in a fuckton of Trump loyalists as a nation, and it’ll be up to them to hold him accountable.

Yeah… that’s the uneducated citizens part dude…

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- Yeah… that’s the uneducated citizens part dude…
  
  Yes and no. Yes, it is true that more uneducated people voted for Trump, and lack of education means people do not understand the risks and negative implications of voting for Trump over Harros for themselves. No, that argument doesn't explain the whole picture. It is also true that educated people who understand the implications voted for him anyway because they saw it as benefiting them/their worldviews. Keep in mind half of college educated male voters and over a third of college educated female voters went for Trump.
  
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- There’s no need to be condescending. Your meme implies that it was the people who stopped Yoon’s declaration of martial law. I was just clarifying.
  
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The people didn’t hold President Yoon accountable. Parliament did.

How do you think representative government is supposed to work?

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- It’s the same in every bourgeois democracy: the representatives represent the capitalist class over the working class. BBC: [Princeton and Northwestern] Study: US is an oligarchy, not a democracy
  
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- representative government
  
  supposed to work
  
  Pick one.
  
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If you ignore the 4 years that it wasn't a bunch of Trump loyalists that came before the vote.

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What's a battle?

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Sometimes I hear Bs as Rs.

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- Ah you must have a cold.
  
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It will be weird going to vote in 2026 whilst living in a fascist totalitarian dictatorship. Will there only be one choice to vote for?

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By asking them nicely?

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The European retards say things like this as though they themselves haven't swung far right lately. Pot meet kettle.

This is just typical America bad copium by the Europoors and internalized hate by American Euroboos.

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Norman Mailer once said "the dark cloud of fascism is forever descending on America but it only ever lands in Europe."

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- I have a feeling Norman Mailer would've had a different opinion if he were, say, an African-American man. Or a trans woman. Or any of a number of other marginalized groups.
  
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It’s not even about being underfunded. It’s about forcing all students into public school when they aren’t all on the same level when it comes to intelligence or capability to learn, much less their home support system.

The schools that spend the least per student have the best scores

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It’s about forcing all students into public school when they aren’t all on the same level when it comes to intelligence or capability to learn

Huh? Don't most public schools offer various levels of the same subject for this reason? Like remedial, honors, AP, etc. In what way is this problem solved by private schools? Unless you're implying that home schooling solves this problem, which yeah sure if one of the parents works full time teaching their children and also has a high level of education themself as well as the relevant skills. Not something that can actually be scaled out across the country. And history has shown that homeschooling typically leads to inferior education.

The schools that spend the least per student have the best scores

Yeah that doesn't sound right at all. You got a source?

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- Here's some sources:
  
  A $1,000 increase in per-pupil spending over 3 consecutive years led to a full grade-level improvement in both math and reading achievement
  
  A 10% increase in school spending improved test scores by 0.05 to 0.09 standard deviations
  
  Out of 18 statistical estimates examining the relationship between spending and test scores, 11 showed positive and statistically significant improvements
  
  Oh wait these sources agree with you and that guys probably full of crap.
  
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