A few weeks early but no one's complaining
A few weeks early but no one's complaining
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those smiles
those smiles make me smile
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Why do so many people talk like this post is about whether or not you should burn these down or not? Or how they should be maintained?
Girls saw the burning plantation and took a selfie for the symbolic value of it. I don't see them argue that people should destroy the historical evidence, or anything. They just took a strong symbolic Image and if you don't like the symbolism in it, you are a weirdo.
Can we just appreciate their picture? Think about its symbolism?
And maybe then we can have the discussion about what to do with these things. People with no knowledge could start with listening. And if needed, they can add their perspective afterwards.
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It's like a mixture of Dada,Ephemerala and juxtaposition. Chef kiss. like these covert fascist think we want to erase history motherfucker I want to know where you are we just celebrate when idols are torn down.
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I didn't realise slavery continued in the US until so recently, mid 1800s? Yikes.
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Chattel slavery. Penal Slavery is still legal and targets mostly racial minorities.
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They still have it, it's just called prison labour now.
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don't worry, maga white supremacist snowflakes are in the process of rewriting that history to say the slaves "wanted" to be here, because of "opportunities" they didn't have in the home they "voluntarily" left to be here. so, they weren't "slaves," but "immigrant workers"
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Like the opportunity of not being shot
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Don't forget that they were gaining valuable skills to better themselves.
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It's still around.
The amendment to USA's constitution that "banned" slavery did so EXCEPT as punishment for a crime.
USA also has astoundingly high incarceration rates per capita. Coincidence?
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More like mid-1900s.
And yes, that's talking about the the last chattal slave not being freed until 1942, not the same points others are making about prison slavery.
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ITS STILL here, at least in very wasp areas, especially in country/golf clubs they still have hordes of African immigrants as "servers", one english prof told me one time he dated a woman who im guessing is wealthy because they were eating at this country club, and all the severs there were African immigrants/migrants. and yes the people there that were in "high society were all white"
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I understand what you are trying to say but isn't it downplaying slavery (especially the racist slavery in this case) when equating it to seemingly racist hiring practices of country clubs? I would agree with you that it seems to be a romanization of the racist slavery. But slavery and a job is very different. The racism might be the same at its core but working in a job and working in slavery is very very different.
I am not defending the clubs. I just think slavery is a word that shouldn't be deluded as it should be understood as the horror that it is.
If you think I am wrong, please let me know. Maybe my take is stupid.
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More burnt plantations please! We can put them out with confederate tears.
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too late I drunked em' all 😔
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Hear hear, I will drink to that yes sir!
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Beautiful building, awful history.
Waste of water trying to put it out, unless of course it was endangering nearby structures
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Aside from nearby structures, generally you don't want fire releasing toxins in the atmosphere,even were it just wood. Likely the are plastics, bad paints,and multiple other things we wouldn't want just burnt willy nilly. Not that I'm against the destruction of the place; fuck that place.
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Yeah, fuck the south. Enjoy, ladies.
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Kudos for cutting out their names but I do love that they included "#BurntToACrisp"
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where is that?
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It's on the FB post that is cut off here. The uncensored version is floating around BlackSky.
Edit: I missed that this isn't the FB post. Someone took their picture from FB and reposted. But this is on BlackSky with the ladies names and a couple hashtags, one of which is "#BurntToACrisp".
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Good question, I just read the article and couldn't find it either
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The lead in the paint and who tf knows what else (eg covered up arsenic paint or wallpaper) is in that smoke. Seriously avoid breathing in smoke from home fires, it has unfathomably deadly stuff in it
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Dude a place that old? Prolly has everything in it. Wouldn't surprise me if a renovation in the 50s gave it some cadmium.
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Generally speaking it's best to avoid inhaling any smoke be it from a fire or even a cigarette.
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I don't like this as a "stick it to em" thing. Personally, I want to see those women own that entire plantation, and transform it into a haven for the black community. If that means tearing it down, so be it. I want them to own that shit. I want the slave owning twats to be rolling in their graves over, not just a black person, but a black woman owning their shit.
That said, amazing selfie lol
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Look at their faces! They know fate took its time granting this justice hundreds of years later ... a slow burn.
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That's lowkey awesome
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they really could have parked that tower-ladder in a better spot.
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Yeah, like back in the garage.
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exactly! :)
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Missed one
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it's giving Zoë Roth
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Just a side note, just because the United States fought a war that most people think it was about slavery. It was not. The North profited off of slavery. This was all to consolidate power and build up the federal government, which nowadays is constantly overreaching into our lives. Also, it is very concerning given the divisive climate in our country and the accelerating powers of the executive branch with the erosion of checks and balances that possibly we are on the verge of another Civil War. It could be thought that given the rate of incarceration, we just don't see the human suffering like we did back then. Maybe nothing's really changed. And maybe white people, the poor whites are all a part of this system too. I mean, look around America. What do we have, but cheeseburger stands. And five lane highways going through our neighborhoods with monster trucks running over kids. I mean, in a very short period of time, I've had three incidents where I have been around firearms that put me in danger. Slavery was an inefficient, outdated system of Managing Society. The same powers that justified slavery are the same powers both left and right that run the country in the United States. Have y'all heard of a Dixie Democrat? For there is no war but the class war. I am a cracker, but there are black people that have the same opinion as me. And I get a lot of my theories based upon their opinions. No war but the class war libturds
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The rest of your comment is just arguing against points no one made.
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hurr durr racism doesn't exist y'all
Opinions promptly ignored.
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You and others try desperately to bend and twist history to be something different than it was. It's pretty simple: the Civil War started because the South seceded, and the North said "No."
So the question is only why the South seceded. And I guess we can never know for certain, because it's not like we can get a prioritized list of reasons for secession from each state that seceded OH WAIT YES WE CAN.
Each state listed their causes for secession, and primary amongst their concerns was slavery, whether is was concern for Northerners eventually getting rid of slavery, or upset that slaves escaping to the North were not being returned, or even that some Northern states were abolishing slavery within their states.
Yes, some Northern states still benefitted from slavery at the time, and yes, Lincoln was prepared to grant slavery in perpetuity to the slave-holding states, so it's clear that the Northern states were not fighting to end slavery. However, that doesn't change the main two things that led to the Civil War:
- The Southern states seceded to preserve slavery.
- The Northern states said "No."
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Hell ya let that thing burn! So happy for the people and the country. They should be proud of themselves.
Ok now that y'all read thus far. Auschwitz, Alcatraz and a myriad insane asylums not burner down for very good reasons. But an old slave plantation and we're all smiles....
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That plantation, Nottoway, explicitly presented itself as romantic. When I visited, they had an exhibit about how kindly the old master was, because he gave the slave children candy at Christmas.
It’s a place for rich white people to have weddings at, while being served by underpaid black people who are probably descendants of the people held there. They sold cotton in the gift shop - it was a sugarcane plantation. That’s something you do on fucking purpose.
If you want a place that understands that it is Americans Auschwitz - Whitney Plantation. Amazing place that everyone in the American south should visit.
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Because goyim aren't having weddings at auschwitz. If the plantations were treated as relics of antebellum brutality we wouldn't celebrate their incineration, but instead they're romanticized.
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If the German government turned Auschwitz into a hotel and resort for people to throw parties and get married and ignore the atrocities that happened there, I'd be in favor of burning it down
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Alcatraz
Considering that this administration is talking about reopening Alcatraz, uh... yeah, probably would have been better for everyone if it burned down.
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This is so incredibly stupid. We might aswell cripple most of the food production and burn down entire cities since most of the America and farms used to have some form of slavery or racism. Was that building still used for slavery, or did they just attack innoncent people and damaged their own food supply + economy? Like.. why? What is one good thing you accomplished while causing 5 bad things?
EDIT: Note that I'm not from US so might be missing more context, but where I live, we usually don't burn down historic buildings or museums because they host bad history. In fact, they're protected by law as a culturally significant objects so others could learn.
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Its as if auswitch administrative building was preserved in its peak state, had all its history scrubbed and added an option to host weddings with era approperiate costumes since the people weren't actually gassed there.
It wasn't a museom, it was whitewashing slavery.
And besides this is america. There are business signs in europe older than that building.
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Using historical objects where peasants were banned from, to now allowing those that were banned to explore and utilize said objects freely? The horror. What do you think happens in every historical castle around the world? Should Chinese burn down forbidden city? The building isn't even owned by the same family anymore, but some attorney and was added to historical buildings registry. The owner already said he hopes to rebuild it as it was both a reminder of brutal history of chattel slavery and economical drive (tourism) to the region.
Good job fighting the history, you really showed them, I'm sure the people in graves feel very insulted.
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If it was a museum about the horrors of slavery you'd have a point, the problem is this was a resort. They were still literally profiting off of slavery...
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Wait till you learn about half of the hotel resort histories. Many of them use castles and palaces that were just as mean towards slaves.
Transforming something with bad history into a hotel or resort is something that happens all the time, everywhere.
I mean, there is literally haunted hotels tourism, and those buildings have commonly seen some really dark stuff.
In my country, there is a prison hotel where I can spend a night in a building where my kind used to be.. well, it's history, so people like visiting those places, including me.
Should we burn them all?
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Sorry man you don’t know shit
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Good and well thought out argument, your comment definitely made me support burnings of historical places. I had to check if Im on reddit
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Now this photo is culturally significant! 🤗
This building had to be destroyed for the photo to exist and become culturally significant, just as the lives and culture of the planter's slaves had to be destroyed for the building to exist and become culturally significant. Poetic, isn't it?
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It kinda is, yeah
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