1 yr. ago • 84%

To the admins- will lemmy.world block Facebook's Threads or are you open to federating with them in the future?

https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html

Many of us do not trust Facebook and anything it is associated with or swallows up.

EDIT:

https://techcrunch.com/2023/07/05/adam-mosseri-says-metas-threads-app-wont-have-activitypub-support-at-launch/

"Instagram head Adam Mosseri said "

““Soon, you’ll be able to follow and interact with people on other fediverse platforms, such as Mastodon. They can also find people on Threads using full usernames, such as @mosseri@threads.net.””

“We’re committed to building support for ActivityPub, the protocol behind Mastodon, into this app. We weren’t able to finish it for launch given a number of complications that come along with a decentralized network, but it’s coming,” he said.

“If you’re wondering why this matters, here’s a reason: you may one day end up leaving Threads, or, hopefully not, end up de-platformed. If that ever happens, you should be able to take your audience with you to another server. Being open can enable that.”

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To me it’s simple. If Zuck has a part in this, I will find somewhere else to go.

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If we don't defederate from the outset I'm just gonna join another instance that did. I didn't sign up for Lemmy because I wanted fucking twitter.

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Please don't federate with the Zucc

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federation with meta will bring nothing but evil into our niche little corner of the net and i am not for it.

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Please don't federate with Meta. You can guarantee they'll ruin all that is good about the fediverse.

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It's very simple. Facebook/meta bullshit on here and I am moving to -tildes.

Fuck corporations. I hope they all burn and I hope their creators and their born and unborn offspring get cancer and die.

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Please defederate from Meta while it is to our advantage.

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Don't federate with Meta, please

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If I wanted to be on meta I'd make a meta account

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It's starting to look like the capacity for a user to independently defederate their content from specific platforms is in order. Even better would be the capacity to select what specific content is federated where when publishing.

I personally want nothing to do with Meta, but I'd prefer to have the choice rather than having it made for me by the admins.

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I have done a little bit of reading but I'm still not sure what the issue is. Is it that Threads will take over and defacto become the entire Fediverse? Because I think that would happen whether or not Mastoson/Lemmy instances choose to defederate. Is privacy the concern, and if so, wouldn't it only affect people using Threads?

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I don't want them commercializing the space. I feel as though we came here to get away from that. I fear an EEE tactic at worst, ads possibly showing in my feed at the least. But its not like we can't defederate after launch if it is terrible.

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i really hope we keep conglomerate out of the fediverse... they will commercialize it.

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Have lemmy.world admins said anything about this yet at all?

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I can’t even interact on lemmy.world with my mastodon.world account. Is it really worth worrying about Thread accounts being able to interact here?

I have a feeling Thread is never going to bother with ActivityPub anyway. I suspect the threat was only ever a hedge in case Thread wasn’t as wildly successful on launch as it turned out to be.

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If they have any access to data through federation they could have just quitely made a small instance and stolen all the data. So while I 100% won't be creating an account over there, and might block the instances myself, I don't see the need to proactively do it.

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In case Lemmy.world doesn't defederate, I need an instance recommendation. Preferably something active. Not lemmy.ml and beehaw.org, I'm not going back to those. Anyone got any ideas?

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There's a tonne of comments saying about EEE but people need to be aware that EEE is famous for not being successful

Microsoft themselves who coined the term gave up on the approach after a number of unsuccessful attempts

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Yes please block them, I don't want Meta poisoning Lemmy. If I wanted to see facebook content I would have a facebook account, I don't.

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Isn’t Threads federating with Mastodon, not Lemmy?

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Honestly, I feel like u/ruud is gonna see these comments and keep Zuck out of things. He seems like he cares about what's going on up in here.

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I feel like this is entirely against Lemmy.world's ethos of "a general-purpose Lemmy instance of various topics, for the entire world to use" (emphasis mine). I for one joined this instance exactly because they didn't have a ban-happy federation policy like some of the other big ones. I understand people's concerns, but if you want a "fuck corporations" walled garden instance, I feel like there are better homes for you somewhere else...

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Zucc-Gate-2023

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Please /u/ruud do the right thing! Block those creatures!

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I have some mixed feelings about this

But (and don't hate me for this) If theads joins the fediverse it could actually bring a large user base over

And ofcourse once meta gets greedy the fediverse should do what it's designed for and prevent any large company from owning the fediverse

It could also convince a decent portion of the threads userbase to move over to lemmy or mastodon much easier then they would of been able to in the past since they will already be so close

Tl;Dr Allow meta into the fediverse but if it's shit then defederate them aka do what this system was designed for

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I actually would prefer .world not block Facebook's Threads. I have some accounts on other instances that will be blocking them, so I can switch to those if it becomes an issue.

In any case, I think it's a tough decision and I do like .world simply because of how open it is.

I support either decision. I only just got here damn it lol

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