alias 2024='echo "YEAR OF THE DESKTOP"'

I think the mangled English there is suggesting that some people don't care enough, and other people have enough money (to buy Windows).

Not that it matters because who the fuck pays for Windows anyway? OEMs do, but not normal people. Everything since like Windows 7 has been a free upgrade, and normies get a new PC more often than that so get a copy with it.

I seriously can't make sense of this meme... What is it trying to say? Why is the train smashing "Linux adoption"? It seems like this meme contradicts itself at every opportunity lol

The meme, which wasn't well-written, is suggesting that the cost savings of switching to Linux isn't significant to most people. It's saying

Most people

• don't care enough
• have enough money

rather than

Most people don't

• care enough
• have enough money

This pretty much sums up the pcmasterrace community and i ended up leaving because of it.

Most people will buy a computer, that computer will have Windows 11 on it, they'll start using that computer and the pre-installed OS that came with it, and maybe, occasionally, they will complain that "this is different now" and that "they always change things, it's so annoying" and that will be the end of it.

If you're talking about people who install or even just upgrade the OS on their computer by themselves, are aware of such a concept as "alternative operating systems," engage in any kind of conversation about operating systems on social media, and then care enough about the topic to downvote people who disagree with them on purely ideological grounds, you're already talking about a tiny, tiny minority of computer users.

I'm trying to learn Linux, got Cinnamon to dip my toes into, and love it.

And being someone who is computer literate, finding a distro that was similar to windows to learn with was a pain. With all the infighting and superiority complexs on forums, the absolute number of variations of distros, combined with the avalanche of information you need to digest just to get a basic understanding....

Yeah, I get why people will stick to Windows and ignore free/better alternatives, all while complaining. It's just not worth it to a vast majority of users.

Kind reminder that majority of users use "Google" as their browser. :)

You probably should learn the basics of your car, or develop a relationship with someone who is good at/knows cars and pick a few things up from them.

You rely on it working correctly to not die and the company that makes it would happily let you die if they calculated it was more profitable that way.

Like it's a good thing to have basic knowledge of the stuff we rely on. You don't need to be an expert but total ignorance is a very vulnerable position.

I can blame them.

I'll second this by saying that most people will just buy a new computer when their current one becomes "slow". For me, a slow computer is easy to find a solution for. It's almost always the install drive is a hard drive and too many background applications. For other people the only solution in their eyes is a brand new PC because even the operating system is part of the whole PC.

Funny icon on desktop goes brrr.

Is reloading PCs really still a thing anymore? I'd been told that it stopped being necessary (unless you fucked something up) somewhere around windows 7.

Yeah, uhm... So, you know, modern cars also come with pre-installed spyware, just like our friend wondows but somewhat worse 😅

Yes, but their desktop is their phone.

A big problem is that there are hospitals and medical facilities using old versions of windows for reasons like the cost of upgrading all their computers or more importantly legacy software that they have to use just simply not working on more recent versions for various reasons. As much as having an up to date OS is important for safety, it's just not feasible in some areas and it's terrifying.

Good old Windows ME.

I know it's mostly because I'm in the middle of nowhere, most people I know don't know what OS they're running

you ain't a joking. i see that all the time. searching for facebook, youtube, amazon, gmail, hotmail..... even 'binging' for google.

Most people still Google “Facebook” to login to Facebook.

Wait, I'm lost here...what's the problem there? Maybe they wanna use the browser version and not the app (i haven't used facebook in ages, so I've no idea if the site now just funnels you into their desktop/mobile app as much as they can)

If your machine support it. Aren't gen 7 Intel chips and earlier unsupported?

Except I had to trick my PC into upgrading. Lots of hardware that's still perfectly good will block you from upgrading/installing W11.

Shout out to ReactOS, who aims to be 100% compatible with Windows stuff. Too bad that they're only likely to get there by 2050 :(

Proton may not be perfect but it works for the vast majority of games at this point. And most mod managers can also run through Lutris, curious to hear which ones you've tried that didn't work

In my experience, 90% of games work on Linux just by using proton. I've even had some of my GoG games that just absolutely did not work on modern Windows just straight up be "install and click play" on Linux via just Wine or by using Proton. The 10% that don't are multiplayer games with heavy anticheats--which, unfortuenatly are what a lot of people play. Some of them already work (Apex, Dead by Daylight, Halo) some are getting worked on (Genshin--tho there IS a way to play it on Linux, at the risk of a ban, a buncha easy-anticheat games like Hunt: Showdown, etc) and some have just plain said a Linux version is out of the cards (Fortnite, Destiny 2 AFAIK).

Modding games also works fine on Linux, but there's a bit of a catch: it's not as simple as installing MO2 and Vortex (you CAN install both via Lutris or Steamtinker, but I've personally never gotten either to work like that so i can't say how well it does or doesn't), you kinda have to play around and see what works. I was able to mod Skyrim, Oblivion, Fallout New Vegas, and Morrowind exactly as i do on Windows (the former three using Rockerbacon's Mod Organizer 2 script, the last one manually), Fallout 4 manually (haven't tried the script since i don't really play FO4, tho I'm sure it works), Pathfinder WOTR via using it's mod manager in Proton, using Steam Workshop if a game supports it, and using Mod Managers for Linux when they're available, like Baldur's Gate 3's LAMP. Yeah, it's a hassle depending on the game. For me, it's fine because I accepted long ago that there would be some annoyances to Linux, and as long as there isn't any native mod managers built specifically for Linux and we're stuck jury rigging mod managers made for Windows, modding will be one of those annoyances. But my tolerance is not everyone's tolerance and I completely understand if people are put off by this and just stick to Windows for modded games.

Not even Windows can run all Windows games, so that's kind of a hard criteria for Linux to achieve.

They mean the user will happily pay for the new windows version instead.

I meant money as in buying a supported PC

If you're gaming, you should be using a distro that is stable. Arch is not worth the effort if you are just doing normie stuff like front-end work

I have no idea how you've run into so many issues. People shit on Ubuntu here but I've always used it as a "Mac OS alternative" since the flavor feels similar. My wife uses it all the time and has very few issues. The only issue we run into is Bluetooth, but I have Bluetooth issues with every OS I've ever used: Android, MacOS, Windows, etc.

I’ve had a lot of similar experiences that just make me not want to use Linux on the desktop. There’s always something breaking, and if you like to tinker with your computer and don’t mind spending an afternoon fixing audio or Bluetooth or a monitor configuration it’s not too bad, but if you just want something that works Linux is definitely not it

Imagine no WSL, no nothing. The only way to use Bash/Zsh is to use either a full blown VM or switch to Linux. All coders would 100% move to Linux, except that code in C++++.

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But only if you're willing to invest Time and Effort into learning it.

But if you do, you'll absolutely love it.

its good practice

I mean it's good practice generally just in case, even when it's not needed it makes it more maintainable

I usually go with YAGNI but shell quoting can get to be a pain so I try to do it right in scripts or aliases

But for a single one-off invocation lol definitely not quoting echo args