Which job(s) would you refuse to accept regardless of how good the pay is?
Which job(s) would you refuse to accept regardless of how good the pay is?
Which job(s) would you refuse to accept regardless of how good the pay is?
ICE thug Slumlord’s handyman Anything that takes orders directly from the Trump administration
ICE
Hmm, you sure? You should watch South Park, S27, E2.
Might change your mind. 😉
Raytheon and co. Anything related to "defense", really.
You only go around the sun so many times, and you want to spend it on making brown kids into skeletons more efficiently? Fuck that shit.
Everyone just saying jobs they dont like, or that they have ethical qualms about, but ignoring "regardless of pay" - and I don't believe you.
Just imagine the salary for the position is $500m per year. At a certain point, you would be able to quit the job with plenty of money for the rest of your life after working for a very short period of time, or else you would be able to use the money to make more good in the world than the harm done by your labor.
If you have a skill set someone is offering $500k for, someone less shitty is going to be offering at least $400k. So you're not giving up $500k, you're giving up $100k or 20%. I've taken bigger pay cuts than that in exchange for increased job satisfaction.
My coworker left our job because a place offered him a pay raise that was like half his current salary.
He came back - the job was so terrible he couldn't stay there. Not just the actual work, but the people.
I try to avoid working anyplace evil, so banks, oil companies, etc. and there are environments I can't be productive in - government, healthcare, anyplace very structured and bureaucratic. I guess if the pay and position are secured, and I can handle my work however I want without losing them, then I would not do anything that would kill me or others either directly or through incompetence (underwater welder, race car driver, assassin, surgeon), would probably cave on banks and other evil orgs, since I might be able to try to change them from the inside.
I try to avoid working anyplace evil, so banks, oil companies, etc. and there are environments I can’t be productive in - government, healthcare, anyplace very structured and bureaucratic.
That's who invented the Internet.
I work for a Contractor who contracts to Government, including Healthcare. The job is meh, but the people are absolutely awesome. The structure is actually a huge benefit, and it makes all the dotcoms' seat-of-the-pants I.T stand out so much more. There's no power-play to prevent updating software - for example - just because "Doug knows the CEO and he doesn't want to" because Dougie's written objection wouldn't pass scrutiny -- and, at most, Doug would get an extension to follow a set plan with milestones to get to that update anyway. But there are many examples where common dotcom slackery dies under review.
There are obvious and well-repeated problems with the overly-structured setup, but they're different from the ones that bother me, and erring on the side of safety and most-benefit is what annoys people ("why can't we have containers and supply-chain exploits like everyone elssssse") the most.
I tried to work in a structured and bureaucratic environment once and was so useless because I want to change everything all the time, and wasn't used to "have your manager talk to her manager", or people trying to blame their errors on others, or trying to get their job. When I saw the lady who did payroll checking everyone off on a long sheet of green and white paper even though they were paying for Kronos and just not using it right, but she protected her job and didn't want it to change, and people there would make others look bad instead of helping them, in an effort to look better themselves in comparison, I cannot function in that world.
I've only worked at startups, and the good part of that is that everyone is trying to do things better, easier, I don't get mad if someone sees a better way I could do something, and they don't have to have their manager tell my manager. And everyone helps everyone, nobody is protecting their job because there is always too much, helping others is how you move up here.
(And yes I know this is a personal difference, not saying it's a better work environment for everyone, or even better for results. Accounting is its own type of work, too - I try to solve problems and get the software to do what a machine does better than a person. The kind of accounting where you are doing what a machine can, is dreadfully boring. I have often thought help desk at my work is the best job. They troubleshoot, and set up equipment, it's got a good balance of work. )
There are pipeline and mining jobs near me that would leverage my degree and skills but I don’t even entertain applying, I would hate it there doing stuff I feel is wrong.
"By the way, if anyone here is in advertising or marketing...kill yourself" --Bill Hicks
I worked in marketing. Though..
So, it's not all bad. I moved on to hospital records analysis to identify things that would kill people, and now work in protocols and systems that help preserve the privacy of user data (one of them even uses ActivityPub).
I've been pretty fortunate in the jobs I've been able to find.
Palantir
Meta
Amazon
Apple
As a Software Engineer my list is only slightly longer and has these additional companies:
Oracle
Microsoft
any military or military complex job. i refuse to assist or partake in the murdering of humans.
Don't forget the fiscal, environmental, and resource destruction. Now if they only made cool camping/ outdoor gear...
assist or partake in the murdering
Militaries outside of America do a LOT of non-murderous jobs. Sandbag the planet? Search and Recovery? Coordinating aid on the ground? When you're a force that happens to be armed, it's a different job. But they still need boots and belts and brass and buttons and berets and boomsticks.
Anything requiring me to travel to the US
travel to the US
They round up 12 people a month from New Zealand. NEW ZEALAND! Anyone hating on the nicest country on the planet really has mental issues they need to get solved.
Nursing.
Couldn't pay me to go through the hell those people witness
Me ex-wife worked 100% in surgery. She used to laugh that she never had to talk to the fuckers. She was so clinical about it that she could tell me about a case and had no idea if it was a man or woman, black or white, nothing, just body parts.
there's a lot of different settings for a nurse, but I guess a good nurse should be able to at least stomach the worst of em if needed
Jack booted tool of oppression
Would you be willing to spread misinformation & propaganda to advance a good agenda for money?
Mercenary/ "private military contractor", ICE agent, prison gaurd
I once interviewed at a bulk email (spam) company because i was desperate for a job. They realized how uncomfortable i was so didn’t offer it, but i like to think I would have declined, regardless how much i needed the job.
Working under Trump.
Debt collector
My wife works in Accounts Receivable, and now manages a team who talks nicely to people about paying that debt over others, so their essential products arrive on time. She's an absolute sweetie and I don't know how she does it, but she's excelled for a decade at it now.
Anything that requires me to exert force with my hands repetitively for long periods, like teasing or twisting. I've done it while fixing things around the house, and I'm damn sure I'd get carpal tunnel very quickly. But typing and moving the mouse all day, every day is fine & dandy! 🙃
Sales. Especially telesales.
I spent years doing sales because they were the only opportunities that I had available, and I hated every minute of it. Now that I'm finally out, I would NEVER go back.
Prison guard. You can’t leave work during your shift, you’re in prison.
Prostitution. My apologies if this subject is taboo. However, it is the oldest profession in the world and stood the test of time. I have a vivid imagination and I’m having trouble imagining what would happen if I’m just not attracted or aroused.
I am against the prison industrial complex but consensual relations between adults are just fine. I’m not sure I could do it but I’d try.
Anything where you're around the public all day. Rather wash dishes than be a waitress.
That’s the one thing i got from working food service: i so much prefer dealing with the stink and mess of dish room than having to deal with people …. Although tipping made the pay disparity pretty significant
I'd go back to waitering if I needed to -- and if my feet weren't so trashed from either combat boots or dress shoes already!
Retail. Done it for 4 years and got treated like absolute shit by customers, especially during the pandemic. I got told off a few times for speaking back to customers but I think now I'd probably struggle not to hit them. I'd be sacked very quickly
I learned at a young age that I'm not cut out for retail. I can fake it for a minute or two, but I've got a short fuse and a sailor mouth.
But this seems like something that could be tolerated at the right price point. It's a price point they would never pay, but your reason for working it isn't a moral or ethical reason.
There are plenty of jobs I'd be terrible at regardless of what they pay.
If it's an actual job and not just something made up to be arbitrarily horrible I'd probably give anything a try if you pay 10x my current pay.
Anything in the Oil Industry, Cops, Military, or Evil Multinational Corporations
Social work and sales
Even for $500m per year
Chicken sexer. Sending all those cute little chicks to their deaths.
Politics, in any form.
Corporate, in any form.
Police, in any form.
Military, in any form.
They all - I believe that institutionalized, hierarchical authority is rather obviously inherently destructive, and I couldn't willingly take part. In fact, one of the things that perplexes me the most about politics in particular is that there are people who do willingly take part. I can only conclude that their brains are broken in some fundamental way such that they don't see or don't care about the harm they inevitably do.
This unfortunately is the problem with the police. People who see the police as problematic are unwilling to join so the majority of people who join are the ones who just want to have power over others.
There are many variations on the quote but a cop who doesn’t report a bad cop is themselves a bad cop, so you could be the actual good cop who reports their coworkers until you get fired from the corrupt org but if enough people did that we might actually see some change.
Cops also have a surprising amount of freedom to choose to enforce laws so you could also just not enforce laws you consider corrupt.
I am saying this as a person who wouldn’t want to associate with a cop but would love to have some cops who aren’t bastards but unfortunately #ACAB
You're right. the institution of policing protects the interests of the wealthy and the status quo. that's why all cops are bastards. we can definitely have better or worse human beingd entering the institution.
Sadly the majority of them are from the bottom of the barrel. We definitely need more cops sympathetic to the interests of the people
but unfortunately #ACAB
If American Cops Are Bastards, you may be out of luck. My wife's sister is a cop (not American) when she's not Ambulance (or volunteer fire! She's an over-achiever). I've known her longer than I've known my wife, and she's stayed a really great person despite the horror (and poop) she's seen.
But yeah, we need to pay American cops more so they can get better applicants and can then screen out and weed out the bastards.
Politics, in any form.
But how do you make the world better then?
In fact, you seem very qualified for it. Those who don't want powet are the best people for the job, you should be leading your city/town or maybe country.
Police, in any form.
Do neighborhood watch programs count?
Military, in any form.
Do Militias count?
Anything to do with poop!
Literally what kept me from going into medicine
Just study non-poop medicine instead
Cop
Ice
Dhs
Military
Anything food service. I am NOT to be trusted with food.
Shift work.
Never again.
HR rep
This one doesn't feel inherently evil. There are some great HR reps where I work now, but I don't work for a company that's trying to milk us dry.
Fall guy
Materials handler at a chemical plant.
Commercial fisherman
Deep-sea diver
That bottom one. It's the kind of job where you can do everything perfectly and still fucking die horribly. Pays like 200k a year though.
Right after Project Veritas got subpoenaed by Congress back in, I think, 2015 or 2016, they offered me a well paid position as an interface designer for the website. I had been unemployed for years by that point, and I was extremely desperate for work. I never applied for the job, and I don’t know how on earth they got my my résumé.
Suffice it to say, I told them to go fuck themselves.
That should be evidence to them that they are the bad guys. No one tells a job offer to “fuck off” if the company isn’t utterly shit. Even if Meta or Twitter offered me a job I’d probably just use a curt “no” and move on. But, Project Veritas, Heritage Foundation, Palantir? They’d get a “fuck off” for sure.
Yeah. I'll interview with anyone who wants it, but for Palantir and Heritage Foundation and others who are actively working to make peoples' lives worse? They'd get a very Canadian "no, sorry*, I would prefer not".
if you uploaded on places like INDEED, or another job site, they probably got it from a 3rd party recruiter,.
probably dangerous ones, like right wingers in red country. like oil rigs, crab fishing,,,etc. of course the opportunities in those areas are lacking otherwise. and jobs not offering benefits, or referrals/LOR for for certain industries or fields. it probably depend your morals and your personality too.
Animal agriculture.
Anything public facing or anything that has me carrying around a gun. Both are absolute no-gos in my mind.
Naked Cowboy model for a sexy western themed oak furniture teleshopping service.
There are many but since depresseddad already mentioned spreading lies for nefarious reasons, I guess I'll go with pimping and selling narcotics (anything beyond weed at the very least, and even then I would have to really think about it).
Companies that use the Microsoft suite of products. All of the reprehensible stuff that Microsoft is known for aside, I just can't think of anything that Teams, Office, Outlook, etc do well compared to any of their competitors.
Then there's the little quirks that make you wonder how they're considered a tech giant at all. Example: I travel semi frequently and will work my usual hours in different timezones. Teams makes you restart the app on MacOS just to change fucking timezones.
Example: I travel semi frequently and will work my usual hours in different timezones. Teams makes you restart the app on MacOS just to change fucking timezones.
This just happened to me this week. It was definitely not something I would have expected. I'm really disappointed we had to migrate onto Teams.
Regime whore
Everyone has a price but if we stick to realistic numbers I'd say that working on a clothes store or fast food joint would be the first two that come to mind though most office jobs would apply as well.
Anything that makes the world a worse place, eg. most finance jobs.
ICE agent.
What if they paid you enough to bankroll a political campaign for the opposition?
A) they wouldn't. B) I'd still end up in jail for attacking another agent.
Unless you are very good at causing internal disruptions, sabotage and slow downs.
Same. Although mainly because I don't have the cool maintain my cover while undermining the organization from within.
I'd end up with assault/murder charges, for tasing/shooting one of the bulldogs.
But, what about your monthly "nut"?
I'll stick with growing weed and building computers. Less blood on my hands there.