We can all agree on that, right?

Workers should control the beans of production.

Commie memes on my front page? This place is cool AF

The problem is: capitalism.

You can tell that this audience is primarily American because they still defend capitalism, even after being shafted by it over and over. Careful everyone, big bad socialism is going to take your kids and your wife!

Don't dare dream of something better, instead keep swallowing the propaganda of the state and its controlling elites.

Yes, or at a bare minimum, CEO-proof everything and put more power in the hands of users of monolithic infrastructural utility products like Twitter, Facebook, Reddit

Alienation isn't limited to the workplace anymore. It has found it's way into the platforms we spend our free time on.

Goes without saying. Look at the profits of the companies providing essential resources like energy. They most certainly didn't let a good crisis go to waste.

today I learned an important new word

Attention, people of Bikini Bottom! You have been cheated and lied to! The gentle laborer shall no longer suffer from the noxious greed of Mr. Krabs! We will dismantle oppression board by board! We'll saw the foundation of big business in half, even if it takes an eternity! With your support, we will send the hammer of the people's will crashing through Mr. Krabs' HOUSE OF SERVITUDE!

Damn, a lot of capitalist bootlickers in this thread

common Lemmy W

Amazing how many people will step in to defend the ownership of everything to a small minority. They will not reward bootlicking yet yall continue.

Based meme, beautiful praxis.

Communism works nice in theory, and in theory there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice there is. But we e can definity re-shitproof internet based services.

Or at least have them be publicly owned common good, owned by multiple countries with editorial independence from the get go and funded through taxation. That would be a start.

I miss lemmy.ml before the reddit API changes. Not nearly as many bootlickers.

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No, it means that the users should own the services, which is what the F in FOSS means

Lol, enshitification of these services are happening because the owners want to extract as much money as possible from the users. Workers would do the same even if they owned it. How many people would turn down millions of dollars because users don't like the change?

Uh... No.

Is this a communist post? I would live to see someone succeed with that idea but not realistic (see: history)

Incidentally, I wrote a detailed article on the subject a while back https://justiceinternationale.com/articles/2020-12-02-we-must-own-our-tools/

As if workers give a shit about customers.

This is what I think every time I see this socialist / capitalist dichotomy set up:

also I know Im not using the meme right.

This is some LibSoc thinking. See: in early USSR days when they tried more worker-cooperative based ownership they had to stop because the factory workers kept just immediately selling their factories for money now that they owned them.

When you say "workers" do you mean the actual workers or some vanguard party of intellectual champagne socialists who make decisions on the workers' behalf?

No, lol 😂

Listen, socialism doesn't work.

Thats some high quality bruh. FOSS software and communism have very little in common. Yeah sure power for the people, but thinking that everyone should be equal in this enviroment is misleading. Lemmy like every other platform still has to have moderators that are over normal users. The ecosystem itself does not allow abuse. Eg. You can have a strict mod and then host your own instance that is true free speech or whatsoever. If u gonna post nazi stuff or smth like that then they gonna defederate. It's better in some sort because u don't have spam monkey and other extremists but still u get to choose your own poison.

Honestly I don't even know where to start with this, so I'll keep it simple. Enshittification of Twitter, Reddit et al. is not necessarily a result of capitalism, and likewise Fediverse doesn't exist because "workers took the means of production".

For example the disastrous YouTube monetisation policy comes in part from a desire to keep the site "child friendly" (that's why swear words and gore are banned), and in part due to a need to follow existing copyright law.

Even if YouTube was run by a worker co-op, or was a state enterprise those two factors would likely still lead to stringent monetisation rules.

Lmao, social media sites would be insanely worse if the employees made all the decisions. They would all be left-wing circle jerks, as if you all haven't gotten unhinged enough.

Lmao, social media sites would be insanely worse if the employees made all the decisions. They would all be left-wing circle jerks, as if you all haven't gotten unhinged enough.