[Alzwards Corner] Never could happen here

Okay, here's a whole bunch I can think of off the top of my head.

• Opposition to DEI initiatives, feminism, affirmative action, immigration, etc., are rooted in racism/sexism. Even dislike for certain movies is rooted in racism/sexism.
• People are being stolen from and/or their privacy is being violated when companies use public data about them to train AI, target ads, etc. People get really mad about this.
• On a similar note, AI art "has no soul" and AI artists aren't "real artists."
• Hamas and/or Israel are evil. Pick whatever position you want on this conflict, there's a flood of propaganda pushing it and reasoned discussion that goes against it is hard.
• Everything Elon Musk does is somehow evil or idiotic.
• Cryptocurrency is a scam. AI is a scam. <insert some other new technology> is a scam.
• Religion is bad.
• All cops are bastards.
• Unions are good and corporations are bad. Heck, the "capitalism is bad" message in this comic is itself propaganda.
• Cancelling major NASA initiatives like Artemis or Mars Sample Return (or James Webb, Space Shuttle, etc. historically) would be a disaster for space exploration and science, despite their wildly spiralling costs.

Okay, that last one is perhaps getting down into the weeds of one of the more particular communities I find myself in. :)

Of course, there are other communities out there that I'm not commonly in that I expect have the opposite "everyone agrees" views on a lot of these things - DEI is part of some "gay agenda" conspiracy to groom children, Elon Musk is an infallible messiah, cops are the thin blue line protecting us from criminals, unions are destructive to the economy and cause unemployment, and so on and so forth. Propaganda is highly specific to its target audience, as this comic suggests.

The fundamental problem is just that in any significant group or community there are always hot-button issues that "everyone agrees" about, and attempting to question or discuss them with any nuance gets shouted down.

Not the OP but let's fish for down votes.

The Azov battalion are Nazis in Ukraine and Russia is actively trying to exterminate them.

The Russian military brought peace to Syria while the US funded Syrian terrorists.

We call Iran terrorists while the US actively terrorized Iran by murdering their generals without provocation.

The US actively pirates Iranian shipments.

The US changes the definition of words to fit their needs. US isn't in a recession because the government changed how we define recessions.

China is actively committing a deathless genocide because like institutionalized racism we are generalizing the concept of cultural genocide to cover all definitions of genocide.

The Chinese economy is bad because they only grew 5%.

The fentanyl issue is blamed on everyone except the US own incompetence. Whether it be Purdue, or Mexico or China but definitely not a US enforcement issue.

And that's just off the top of my head.

*Edit. I see my votes have turned positive now that I've clarified my personal position on the Ukraine conflict. But let me point out that my facts didn't change only that I've pointed out I'm against Russia.

But this is my point. We should stop down voting facts simply because they're uncomfortable. That's how we get presidents like Trump.

i dunno why you are being downvoted.

this is very true, all msm in the us is owned by a couple of rich families.

where do people think they push their ideology from

Western media normally doesn't lie directly but lies by omission. They will only show one side as a victim and never show that side committing any crimes nor tell the full story.

Israel is the prime example that commits Genocide for 20 years but only gets attention and portrayed as the victim when Hamas retaliates. Seemingly "out of nowhere".

Though in the last few months we went from lying by omission to full on CCP style propaganda with no Genocide in Ba Sing Se.

Where did I say otherwise? I'm only addressing the prevalence of propaganda and our susceptibility to it, not Russia's war measures or oppressive lack of free speech.

It's all fun and games until Stalliongrad snowballs and joins the war

I see. Yeah, I take fine understand why people in the US are so masochistic when it comes to health care...

And anti any safety nets or some worker protections

Wow, I don't usually find myself on this side of the argument, but..

Did you even read what he said?

In a republic, which we are, people have to agree on policy and their representatives vote for what the people who elect them want.

The Overton Window dictates what we can feasibly pass with popularity within a system like ours. Like it or not, the majority of voters' opinions fall within this window, and by definition, what is acceptable for our politicians to run on falls within this window. Also, the Overton window of the US has been shifting right so that actual leftist policies are outside of that window (see how little it takes for someone here to cry about how socialism is ruining everything)

Raising the minimum wage is just inside the left border of the Overton window right now. It's acceptable to talk about and most people with a clear understanding of how poverty works agree that it's a viable solution to remedy one of our nation's biggest problems.

You know it's inside of the window because various states have actually passed those changes. It's acceptable to talk about that happening on a national scale when we can see it work on a state scale.

UBI is so far left of our Overton window that it isn't implemented anywhere here (in the mainland) and can be ridiculed easily, and that's the point.

Political capital is finite, and the wealthy people understand this. Right now we're arguing over UBI instead of creating a common front to raise minimum wage. Exactly as intended. The person that made the comic promoted something that won't happen instead of something that could happen, exactly as intended.

nevermind coming mass automation.

Yes, nevermind coming mass automation. You're presupposing future problems can't be solved in the future. Future problems stemming from future mass automation (as if that's something that didn't start with the industrial revolution) can be solved in the future. Low minimum wage is a problem we have right now and it's not being solving now because too many people are fantasizing about a future that may not even happen in our lifetimes.

Right now we gotta fix our energy infrastructure to solve global warming (which is a real future problem we need to work on right now) and that's going to take a lot of labour to accomplish. Our survival depends on us having a productive and healthy workforce to solve very real problems.

I like Star Trek too but we aren't going to get to that world if we can't solve present day problems.

People have been saying machines will eliminate all jobs since the dawn of the industrial revolution.

Right at this moment there are people that are doing minimum wage jobs that don't have enough money to survive on. How about we solve the present day problems instead of worrying about the problems of some sci-fi future world? We can worry about the problems of the future in the future you know.

No, the system has succeeded.