Discord began blocking servers with information prohibited in the Russian Federation
Discord began blocking servers with information prohibited in the Russian Federation
С 14 марта 2024 года администрация платформы Discord начала блокировать доступ российским пользователям к некоторым серверам с запрещенной в РФ информацией. Пользователи Discord из РФ сообщили Хабру,...
Can we just go back to personal websites and forums?
Also fuck discord use mumble
145Discord is trash, had issues with a KBDFans product, something as simple as a search of a forum would have given me the solution. I had to talk to a human to get the required information. They sent me a link to a firmware to download and all was good.
If I was able to search a forum it would have been a 2 minute job, but I wasted someone else's time, on the other side of the globe.
23please do show me a single messaging platform that can easily and sanely house a population of >50k people on the same server, and allows that for absolutely free, while providing reasonably high quality voice messaging and streaming with negligible latency
21While discord doesn't necessarily cost money, it for sure also isn't free. In fact it's the reddit problem but way worse. A proprietary non-searchable database with all content fully licensed to discord including the right to sub-license. At least, Reddit had an API and is still searchable through their public facing http. I mean I get people don't want their group messages readable by everyone, bit for large groups, it makes sense.
24IRC + Mumble.
We had these things in 2007
12Matrix?
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Join my discord for tutorials on how to setup your own static webpage!
13Guilty, but I'm moving my guides to Lemmy!
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The self hosted movement should be bigger!
7What's mumble?
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I'm surprised that the service works at all in Russia. Isn't there some sort of sanction that disallows that? I think it's time for someone to look into that.
104Since when is Discord a proper place to get information? On larger servers, anything you type is gone forever after an hour due to the volume of messages.
67Its not.
but people still insist on using it as a information store house. Much to the detriment of everyone.
20For someone in Russia, the impermanence might be a desirable feature. I mean, there's always still IRC but Discord is all the rage these days.
Get off my lawn.
14It's not even properly impermanent because somebody else can just archive everything, ironically giving them better overview than the actual members themselves
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Do you not know how to properly search in discord? Sure forums are better but a message in discord isn’t “gone forever” if you’re searching. It’s a pretty fast to search too, which is an insanely impressive feat due to the sheer amount of messages.
7Yeah but the searching also kind of sucks for detailed information.
If only we had these things called search engines that indexed websites that had information on them.
11Discord's search is a joke. You search for specific words and you get a load of results that are... just not that word, at all
6Discord search is only really useful if you already know what the message says
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Nothing is gone forever on Discord. Maybe for you, but not for them. They're literally tracking everything
3When I don't find information through a search engine, I go asking it from people themselves.
Discord is an easy solution for me to find this information at that point. Much easier than generating yet another user account in a website I might use once in my life, while I already use discord a lot.
By the way - you can search for messages you have sent and for messages that were pointed directly to you. Makes delving into old conversations much easier.Of course Telegram and other services like that can help too.
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Is Lemmy going to be one of the only places we can go to get uncensored content? Even the mainstream UK and US news outlets are filtering things.
46Lmao nah. Lemmy is just decentralized censorship. Anyone can ban or block anything else; anyone can start their own community instance and kill it on a whim. Multiple communities have already defederated in the less than a year that I've been on here.
Lemmy solves the issue of centralized censorship/echo chamber communities, by replacing them with individual personalized echo chambers that you get to censor yourself. It's a lot of work to set it up and sustain that type of situation, so it's not realistic for a rational person that does not have a severe internet addiction to waste their time and effort doing it.
38replacing them with individual personalized echo chambers
Which really wouldn't be that bad if instances were more clear about how they operate. Like, on the user signup page, there should be a big ol checkbox saying "I UNDERSTAND THAT ANYTHING THATS NOT A POSITIVE POST ABOUT COMMUNISM WILL GET ME BANNED" or whatever
18Lemmy is just decentralized censorship.
It more like the opposite. Federated instances can keep all the federated posts without ever deleting them. Then also sell and monetize it.
anyone can start their own community instance and kill it on a whim.
Shutting down an instance doesn't mean it's censorship. If a library shuts down if it can't stay up, is that censorship?
It's a lot of work to set it up and sustain that type of situation, so it's not realistic for a rational person that does not have a severe internet addiction to waste their time and effort doing it.
Lol, freeloader says what?
4You always have the option of changing instances if you don’t like what the admins are doing, or creating accounts on those defederated instances to see what they’re up to.
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What? There's censoring all over this place!
17With the developers themselves being the biggest offenders.
4What is "this place"? Your own instance? You should move instances if you don't like the censoring.
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That's part of what the fediverse is about.
13Lemmy isn't a place. Lemmy is just the software you use to access the Fediverse. Lemmy is not censored or uncensored - only specific instances can be censored or uncensored.
10Lemmy is massively censored. I just got another ban recently for taking about .ml bans in a .world thread.
8Wow the server software banned you? That's pretty impressive considering you're currently using it and that feature doesn't exist.
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I see censorship on Lemmy approaching Reddit levels more often than I'm comfortable with. The same mods moved here unfortunately.
-2Let's not pretend the mods that were already here are a lot better. But being able to shuffle off content onto separate instances does have the upside of at least being able to avoid instance admins who just don't quite like the content in your community.
8Lemmy is not a single platform. That doesn't make any sense.
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you sound surprised that western governments censor things in their news.
-15Looks like the Nordic countries have some of the best protections for their press.
The U.S. is ranked around 45th which is disappointing considering the first amendment is supposed to guarantee freedom of the press.
But in general western countries are far better than places like Russia, China, India, the Middle East, etc.
31Why does this get down voted?
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bruh
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