Movie industry demands US law requiring ISPs to block piracy websites
Opponents say SOPA-like proposal would block plenty of legitimate websites.
Isn’t it fucking crazy that “industry demands ____” is likely to come to fruition, but “group of individuals demands XYZ” isn’t likely to change shit?
I demand better living conditions. We all demand an economy that doesn’t favor the rich. Not shit will change.
Companies “demand” shit and then just literally write the laws and hand them to legislators who pass them.
literally write the laws and hand them to legislators who pass them
Remember, they pass them without reading them.
No, but they do read their bank account statement before passing to see if the bribe campaign donation was paid in time.
If your demands are being met you have power, if not you don't have power.
Companies “demand” shit and then just literally write the laws and hand them to legislators who pass them.
Well, Congress only hears one side, they don't read Lemmy to get the other side.
They have no respect for their constituency, because they think their constituency doesn't care enough to engage them about it, and are 'dumb' enough to vote them back in the office again.
From the article...
He also told the audience that pirate-site operators "aren't teenagers playing an elaborate prank. The perpetrators are real-life mobsters, organized crime syndicates—many of whom engage in child pornography, prostitution, drug trafficking, and other societal ills.
I'm honestly surprised they didn't throw the word 'terrorist' into that description as well.
Especially eye-roll-inducing considering the pedophile problem in Hollywood hasn't really gotten better, let alone been solved. Many of the exec types demanding things change are likely to be either perpetrators themselves, or sympathisers with the perpetrators of this behavior, and they tell us what we should believe is right or wrong based on the almighty dollar? Fuck Hollywood in general, but especially fuck the movie industry executives in charge. Greedy bastards.
I think maybe they are describing themselves.
Aren’t those things already illegal? Wouldn’t the solution be to just go after the pirate-site owners for those reasons? Then the only pirate-site owners remaining will be regular people—the vast minority, they would have you believe.
...Many of whom engage in child pornography, prostitution, drug trafficking, murder, terrorism, poisonings, Hentai, bad DIY, unsolicited advice, telling women to smile, wearing JNKOs, hacking banks, and NOT FLOSSING!
There are vegans that were dictators. Therefore veganism should be illegal. Also some people who breath air have been known to be murderers.
Everybody knows movie pirates eat babies—
Wait.
Pirate Bay.
Pirate Ba(b)y?
Pirate Babe Eat?
I think you're on to something!
Service Provider
Not Service Regulator
They shouldn’t have any knowledge of what websites people visit
Basically demands lawmakers for ISPs implement censorship tools.
Block piracy websites with what? Dns resolver?
And when people demand living wages, or properly priced housing, or affordable food, that shit doesn't matter right?
Fuck the movie industry.
They were doing just fine until people started to hate theatres and so their main source of ripping people off faded away.
Piracy websites should add a copy of the U.S. Constitution to their websites. Just slap a "/constitution.html" on the site.
Then, if the MPA succeeds, we can talk about how the U.S. Government is blocking access to hundreds/thousands of copies of the Constitution online.
LOL this should be done.
"/ConstitutionUSA.html"
Should be added.
Cool. Now all of Google Drive is blocked because one guy hosted a movie there for a few days.
All it would take is someone getting AWS blacklisted for an hour, that law would disappear like it never existed.
Piracy Shield blocked a Cloudflare IP address recently too
Wage theft and fraud poses a larger threat to the economy. Rather than hiring 20 million dollars of internet policing to save zero dollars of the economy could we get 20 million dollars of police that prosecute fraudsters and shitty employers?
Can we just start hanging the rich on live TV?
Y'know the French did this "publicly execute the rich" thing before. Worked out pretty great for them..... maybe we should learn a thing or two.
Hmmm, yes. Build a whole generation of tech savvy people with knowledge of VPNs and that activelly hate your guts. I cannot foresee any way this could backfire.
an industry which throws away finished movies because they don't want to spend the money to release it?
yeah nah, you're disqualified from an opinion on piracy.
Justice for Coyote Vs. ACME
Yeah! Like, just because you make something, doesn't mean you get to decide what to do with it.
Imagine how much money the movie industry would have if it stopped wasting time and effort on the false idea that 1 download = 1 lost sale.
But remember, when it comes to doing a public good/service/education/etc, the government is perpetually broke and can afford nothing.
150M $? This sounds like with such money entire city's Public Transport can run for 10 years. Without fees.
How about they start making good movies that are actually worth to go to cinema for instead of whatever they are doing
And adjust the fucking business model so that theatres can make money from people just buying tickets at reasonable prices and don't have to try to gouge them at the concession stand or treat them like criminals for bringing their own food.
I've been to one movie in the theatre since the pandemic and the main thing it did was remind me that seeing movies in a theatre just wasn't really worth it anymore.
Okay, I’ll use my own DNS provider
Maybe they will actually geoblock.....
I'll use my VPN.
I demand laws requiring the movie industries to throw any IPs they don't want to use or any movies they don't give reasonable and simple access straight into the public domain
Just cut out the middleman and get rid of copyright and patent laws altogether.
They are not good for society and only useful idiots think otherwise.
No. Copyright laws originally allowed creators to profit of their work for 28 years, which is perfectly fair and reasonable. Corporate lobbying extended copyright to 70 years past the author's death, which is obviously insane, since creators can't profit off their work after they die. But just because corporations perverted the law in an attempt to retain IP indefinitely, it doesn't mean that copyright law itself is bad, and wanting reasonable protection for an authors IP doesn't make you a useful idiot.
I mean, good luck with that. Pirate bay is never going down at this point.
Instead of being contempt with one yacht, they're gonna do what they can to have zero.
When A24 and state run film studios like Vicscreen are the only ones making anything remotely worth the box office, you have a problem, and burning down the barn to stop the foxes from all those delicious hens aren't gonna fix it. Just more socialized losses.
Fuck 'em. Pirate more.
"They are deying us our Corporate Right to Profit!!!"
Hahahahaha
Unintended consequences - what are they going to do once 90% of connections are encrypted, include use of VPNs and encrypted DNS?
This is what they're promoting.
Host your own encrypted DNS on a VPS in a non-compliant location, use a VPN to connect to it.
So many ways these idiots are cutting their own throats.
Also, let's list the companies rather than say "Movie Industry". Or let that be a link to a Wiki article listing all the companies and their holdings.
Fuck em all at this point. I go to maybe 2 movies a year, at most. And I'm cutting subscription services, down to 2 at this point.
As a guy from Russia, I must admit that vpns are not a big problem for censors. They can be easily blocked, including self-hosted ones by protocol detection. And DNS would not do much with IP and clienthello-based blocks. And most users are not enough tech-savvy to constantly switch to new protocols as old ones get blocked.
You have no rights in Russia.
VPNs can't be categorically banned in the US without major first amendment issues. It's not a huge technical issue, but unless the courts just throw out the Constitution (a risk that we're seeing too much of, but still a meaningful bar to cross), there are huge legal barriers to doing so.
Your government doesn't need to care about legal barriers because you have a dictator who can act unilaterally.
Oh no, now I will have to pay $50/mo to re-watch marvel movie 832 and an action movie where the main character has to go on a 2hr quest for revenge after someone shot their pet.
...I barely watch movies anymore, there's not been a ton of great new stuff imo. I'm so sick of subscriptions, too.
Yup. I used to watch a lot of movies and TV shows, now I mostly play video games and read books. Movies and TV just aren't that good.
Yeah. I just use free streaming sites.
It really put things into perspective who the useful idiots are in society.
We're surrounded by them.
Tor Tor Tor Tor Tor that's the way the vpn goes.
(In the cadence of the thong song)
Tor is a fed honey pot
Frankly combining the recent and less recent events - I think fuck them.
I can understand selling a book or a movie and it being theft to download a copy. It's at least logically consistent - you show someone something with a condition that they pay you, it's dishonest to look and not pay.
But owning characters and universes and their names and so on?
And these laws not being used against "AI" firms?
All at the same time?
No. Right is about compromise. They don't do that, so we don't owe them anything. And let them obey what is made for their benefit first.
What year is this? 2008?!? Now we have Netflix and piracy is not a problem, right? Oooohhhh right they decided to kill the golden egg chicken but they still want the eggs
Streaming services went complete degen mode (exclusives that require you 6 different subscriptions). So people went back to pirating. Old rule - you are less convinient than pirate sites, people will just pirated instead. That and quality of the shows going downhill, especially on Disney and Netflix
Legally guaranteed corporate profits, with enforcement funded by taxpayers.
We should abolish this practice.
Yeah. This is socialism.. if there’s one group that hates socialism. Meh. We know they support this.