Breast Cancer

They said something similar with detecting cancer from MRIs and it turned out the AI was just making the judgement based on how old the MRI was to rule cancer or not, and got it right in more cases because of it.

Therefore I am a bit skeptical about this one too.

Why do I still have to work my boring job while AI gets to create art and look at boobs?

Now make mammograms not $500 and not have a 6 month waiting time and make them available for women under 40. Then this'll be a useful breakthrough

Unfortunately AI models like this one often never make it to the clinic. The model could be impressive enough to identify 100% of cases that will develop breast cancer. However if it has a false positive rate of say 5% it’s use may actually create more harm than it intends to prevent.

The most beneficial application of AI like this is to reverse-engineer the neural network to figure out how the AI works. In this way we may discover a new technique or procedure, or we might find out the AI's methods are bullshit. Under no circumstance should we accept a "black box" explanation.

If it has just as low of a false negative rate as human-read mammograms, I see no issue. Feed it through the AI first before having a human check the positive results only. Save doctors' time when the scan is so clean that even the AI doesn't see anything fishy.

Alternatively, if it has a lower false positive rate, have doctors check the negative results only. If the AI sees something then it's DEFINITELY worth a biopsy. Then have a human doctor check the negative readings just to make sure they don't let anything that's worth looking into go unnoticed.

Either way, as long as it isn't worse than humans in both kinds of failures, it's useful at saving medical resources.

Ok, I'll concede. Finally a good use for AI. Fuck cancer.

And if we weren't a big, broken mess of late stage capitalist hellscape, you or someone you know could have actually benefited from this.

This is similar to wat I did for my masters, except it was lung cancer.

Stuff like this is actually relatively easy to do, but the regulations you need to conform to and the testing you have to do first are extremely stringent. We had something that worked for like 95% of cases within a couple months, but it wasn't until almost 2 years later they got to do their first actual trial.

This is a great use of tech. With that said I find that the lines are blurred between "AI" and Machine Learning.

Real Question: Other than the specific tuning of the recognition model, how is this really different from something like Facebook automatically tagging images of you and your friends? Instead of saying "Here's a picture of Billy (maybe) " it's saying, "Here's a picture of some precancerous masses (maybe)".

That tech has been around for a while (at least 15 years). I remember Picasa doing something similar as a desktop program on Windows.

I can do that too, but my rate of success is very low

Where is the meme?

Yes, this is "how it was supposed to be used for".

The sentence construction quality these days in in freefall.

pretty sure iterate is the wrong word choice there

Serious question: is there a way to get access to medical imagery as a non-student? I would love to do some machine learning with it myself, as I see lot’s of potential in image analysis in general. 5 years ago I created a model that was able to spot certain types of ships based only on satellite imagery, which were not easily detectable by eye and ignoring the fact that one human cannot scan 15k images in one hour. Similar use case with medical imagery - seeing the things that are not yet detectable by human eyes.

AI should be used for this, yes, however advertisement is more profitable.

I had a housemate a couple of years ago who had a side job where she'd look through a load of these and confirm which were accurate. She didn't say it was AI though.

Btw, my dentist used AI to identify potential problems in a radiograph. The result was pretty impressive. Have to get a filling tho.

Can't pigeons do the same thing?

Not my proudest fap...

Ductal carcinoma in situ (DCIS) is a type of preinvasive tumor that sometimes progresses to a highly deadly form of breast cancer. It accounts for about 25 percent of all breast cancer diagnoses.

Because it is difficult for clinicians to determine the type and stage of DCIS, patients with DCIS are often overtreated. To address this, an interdisciplinary team of researchers from MIT and ETH Zurich developed an AI model that can identify the different stages of DCIS from a cheap and easy-to-obtain breast tissue image. Their model shows that both the state and arrangement of cells in a tissue sample are important for determining the stage of DCIS.

https://news.mit.edu/2024/ai-model-identifies-certain-breast-tumor-stages-0722

The AI genie is out of the bottle and — as much as we complain — it isn't going away; we need thoughtful legislation. AI is going to take my job? Fine, I guess? That sounds good, really. Can I have a guaranteed income to live on, because I still need to live? Can we tax the rich?

Nooooooo you're supposed to use AI for good things and not to use it to generate meme images.

https://youtube.com/shorts/xIMlJUwB1m8?si=zH6eF5xZ5Xoz_zsz

Detecting is not enough to be useful.

I really wouldn't call this AI. It is more or less an inage identification system that relies on machine learning.

Good news, but it's not "AI". Please stop calling it that.

Haha I love Gell-Mann amnesia. A few weeks ago there was news about speeding up the internet to gazillion bytes per nanosecond and it turned out to be fake.

Now this thing is all over the internet and everyone believes it.

Wanna bet it’s not “AI” ?

Fair weather friends to AI crack me up.