Crystals

Lol those losers at cern wasted hundreds of millions of dollars to find out that there aren't frequencies that alter your energy while I only spent 36 dollars.

Get real

One day at work, I found out a work friend actually believed the whole "crystal energy" thing.

Since she was the first person I had ever met who actually admitted to that, I wanted to know more about what her specific beliefs about them were.

At first she was super bubbly about it, on par with her personality. But then as I asked a couple common sense questions about why science doesnt find anything measurable, and first she got hostile and mad that I would dare question another person's beliefs, but when I explained I was genuinely curious and had no interest in changing her beliefs she just kind of broke down because nobody ever takes her seriously or believes her about her "personal healing journey"

The way I see it, it's for adults who like pretty rocks, but can't come to terms with the fact that they like something "childish" (because for some reason a lot of adults call a rock collection cringe or childish or dumb, but clearly they've never met a geologist) so instead of having a pretty rock and mineral collection, they have "healing crystals", and eventually it just becomes kind of like part of their identity the way a religion is.

I will however, 100% giggle at their expense with my wife, later. Because anyone who buys $50 polished selenite drink coaster "charging plate", and a $200 brass pyramid to "recharge" their $50 "healing quartz wand" while refusing to listen to real science deserves to be giggled at.

I'm pretty sure the anti matter "crystals" it produces can alter one's "frequencies" quite well. If we had enough of the stuff. In the mean time eating bananas is a good substitute.

Meh. Placebos affect people so, I let them have it.

Edit: obviously not to the detriment of real remedies. Calmate

There is scientific evidence that backs crystals, it's called the placebo effect.

So, you're wrong.

I forget the YouTube channel name now, but I recall someone testing some of the cleansing bracelets, with "energy" and "healing" powers...

It turned out that the energy was mostly in the form of radioactive materials, and the only thing you would be healed from by wearing it, was your continued life.

Crystals, on the other hand, are mostly just inert and harmless. So if someone wants to keep a "healing" crystal or whatever on them or put it in their office or something, okay sure. It won't do what it claims to, but it won't hurt you.

But if I see someone wearing a cleansing bracelet, I'm going to reach for my Hazmat suit (since I don't own one, I'm just going to keep a safe distance from the person willingly carrying around what is very likely to be radioactive material), and reevaluate my association with anyone willing to buy such nonsense with absolutely no understanding that it's probably harmful.

I forget the radioactive material used. From what I recall, it's not "drop and run" dangerous, but prolonged exposure is probably going to have some unpleasant side effects... Kind of like radon (it wasn't radon... Radon is a gas with an extremely short half life IIRC, but it can be dangerous to have long term exposure - many years, and it's in most homes.... Buy a radon sensor folks, they're not much more expensive than a good smoke detector).

The premise is flawed. The LHC is looking for specific things, and it takes forever-and-a-day just to look much less decide whether the-thing-being-searched-for is there.

The premise here is that the LHC found All That Is, and it didn’t find [magical-rock-mystery-waves] so pfffttthh stupid hippies.

Short comment:
Does the LHC explain emotions?

Long comment:
Perhaps there are other "forces" in the universe than physical forces. For example what is faith but a non-physical force? And yet it drives people to feel certain ways and do certain things. Same goes for love.

Just like the placebo effect there are many things that affect a person internally even though externally they don't appear to be doing anything.

If something so simple as wearing a bracelet brings balance to someone's troubled mind then I don't see the issue nor do I see the reason to argue about it on the internet.

Now, all that being said, these products are just a grift. We lost the plot when we went from
"pretty rock that eases my mind because I get dopamine from looking at it"
to
"this rock has magical powers and you should buy it because of that".

Conclusion: people are allowed to feel spiritual and psychological connections with things and it is wrong to take advantage of those feelings for profit.

They recently found evidence that not only was Penrose right all along about quantum effects in the brain but there's these crystaline things in your brain that do quantum shit, not very specific on all the details.. but the first thing I thought was

"Can't wait for Spirit Science to completely and delibrately misinterpret this to sell more rocks."

Edit: Maybe I was jumping the gun a bit about claiming Orch-OR itself was proven

Source on "Penrose was right": https://youtu.be/xa2Kpkksf3k

In terms of precision, I'm pretty sure LIGO is the most accurate measuring device ever created, and its not even close.

IIRC it can measure fluctuations in spacetime half the width of a proton at the distance of the diameter of our solar system.

It also hasn't found magic energy crystals or whatever, but I'm just typing.

Not to defend these things, I also don't think they work, but the simplest argument is that they work on a metaphysical frequency/energy/whatever, so a physical instrument wouldn't be able to detect it.

Now I'm just a humble weed farmer but I've seen "A Boy and His Atom" and it looks an awful lot like waves/vibrations to me. And I'm pretty sure some researchers have seen Lithium atoms collapse into waves near absolute zero. And we know that these waves and particles are effected by observation. And I've also smoked a bunch of DMT and eaten mysterious varieties of mushroom. That's why I believe in m⛤gick.

The person with the crystals has already concluded, by faith or by doing large logical leaps, that those contain new energy.

The scientists behind the LHC have to meticulously find evidence along the way before they can make a conclusion.

They are not the same.

This concept is just as dangerous as the right wing claiming LHC will open black holes. There's an implication here that just as soon as LHC was turned on it suddenly gathered information about every unknown Force, particle, and energy in the universe.

The Large hadron collider took 4 years to confirm the higgs boson; as of today it is only on its third data collection run. LHC is hardly a silver bullet.

Honestly though?

At least it keeps the gullible from causing real trouble elsewhere.

People will shit on crystals believers in one breath and tell people to 'respect other's religion' in another or gloat about their MBTI assessment. The cognitive dissonance is unreal.

I don't believe in either but at least I'm consistent. If you're not, then you're just finding an excuse to hate on a hobby that primarily attracts women.

This is the same thing that happens to anything that women likes: pumpkin spice lattes, uggs, horoscopes, tarot cards, rose, etc. It's seen as trivial and stupid no matter how banal the average person's interest are regardless of gender.

everything is energy, prove me wrong

Don't be fooled by CERN, LHC's true purpose is time travel. El Psy Kongroo.

Also, all the scientists "accidentally" making the same mistake as the BBC proves that intelligence doesn't necessitate maturity 😉

I dunno, they might not be looking in the right place. Have they tried Mystic Mary's Crystal Emporium?

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The frequencies don't have to be new so much as understood.

NASA has concluded electromagnetic frequencies are actively healthy for humans, specifically promoting neural tissue regeneration, so try not to unilaterally dismiss everything crystal hippies say.

babies, bathwater, all that.

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/20030075722

NASA's doing research right now with tvmf to develop cartilage regeneration as well.

https://technology.nasa.gov/patent/MSC-TOPS-96

throwing a magnet bracelet on isn't going to cure cancer, but magnetism has clinically significant effects on many basic physiological processes like the circadian rhythm and that's why it keeps being studied.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9346374/

At this point people can believe in whatever they want as long as it doesn't harm anyone else. Someone believing in a bunch of crystals and burning their money on them is a lot less harmful than other beliefs that I won't mention.

I'm having a hard time with this. We don't know what we don't know and it takes a lot of undeserved confidence to say anything is for sure. Fermilab never found the god particle and we're pretty sure that exists. I'm not saying it's true, but you guys are being a little over confident. Think about all of the theories and hypothesis that have been altered or completely changed over time.

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I'm sure the next size up will finally discover the radiant frequencies that my crystals are resonating to.