turns out the solution was "criminalize homelessness and build for profit prisons"
turns out the solution was "criminalize homelessness and build for profit prisons"
I was 23 years old. I was sleeping in a closet for $300 a month. I was working at a Mexican restaurant in the morning, taught kids in the afternoon, and some nights I worked at a bar. I was bussing a table where I overheard a guy talk about how he was thinking of retiring early since his 401k is worth millions because "The Economy" was doing incredible. His bar tab costs more than my monthly expenses.
I went home taking leftover uneaten food by customers.
I think about that all the time, even while I'm making senior software engineer money today.
43Homeless people have a lot of meat on them. I have a modest proposal
42Calm down, Mr. Swift.
14SOYLENT GREEN US MADE OF PEOPLE!!!!
13Caaaaaarl!
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They keep forgetting that in the whole point of capitalism is to be the ones with money. You could theoretically have a “free market” in a system where the whole point is to take care of people but that ain’t this one. It would also still suck because a totally unregulated economy is a recipe for disaster but that’s beside the point.
In a system literally called capital-ism people are beneath money and the homeless are more akin to pests as far as the money is concerned. I know real people who think like the people in the image and I’ll never fully understand why they believe that will ever work.
33the homeless are more akin to pests as far as the money is concerned.
I'd go one step further. Homelessness, and poverty in general, are necessary to capitalism. If the consequences of poverty weren't so bad, workers wouldn't fear losing their jobs so much. Homelessness helps maintain the authority of the boss over the worker and the corresponding hierarchy of capital over labor.
43"The rich take all of the money, pay none of the taxes. The middle class does the work, pays all the taxes. The poor exist to scare the shit out of the middle class." - paraphrasing from George Carlin
25Yea true. The fear of it is what gets people to take less money than they’re worth.
“You’ll take what we give you.”
“Bro why do you want to pay like shit? Are you a fundamentally broken human being?”
8It's all just modern slavery with some funny sprinkles on top.
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and I’ll never fully understand why they believe that will ever work.
Because usually they're safely tucked away all nice and warm in their houses or apartments, not actually caring beyond the vague notion of "oh nooooo bad things are happening to them oh nooooo..... Anyway as I was saying..."
It's like telling black person "you'll have equality someday, no need to get pushy or inconvenience anyone" in the US in 1865.
Its easy to say something like that when you already enjoy the "comforts" that they don't have.
8The issue I have is that many of them can see how they’re being hurt, over and over again, but still refuse to try anything else. They’re so committed to an idea that has never worked or shown to even begin to work.
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You could theoretically have a “free market” in a system where the whole point is to take care of people
You could theoretically have a "free market" for charitable care in a system where wealth was equitably distributed and the reward for labor came from the communal surplus rather than negotiated out of the tight grip of a monopolist. That's the cornerstone of programs like Medicare/caid, HHS, and the Pentagon. A public trust pays for privately management of labor toward certain political ends.
But you need a public trust managed by a popular government to achieve this system, and we've been rolling back both under our current increasingly privatized electoral system.
I know real people who think like the people in the image and I’ll never fully understand why they believe that will ever work.
The view is predicated on this idea of an economic ladder that everyone gets to climb. And failure is attributed to sloth or incompetence rather than an absence of individualist opportunities.
Prior to the flood of cheap labor created by the Baby Boom, followed by the post-80s globalization of industry, it could work thanks to the leverage afforded to labor unions and regionally fixed capital stocks. Philadelphia steel workers have a strong negotiating hand when their foundries were the primer source of domestic steel production. If you could work the mills, you could live a comfortable middle class existence as a result.
Now, steel imports are so cheap that there's little incentive to do steel manufacturing in the US at all. Workers have no hand to play, so they're forced out of the industry. The mythology of the Philadelphia Steel Worker lives on, though.
5You can try to have a totally unregulated market with the alternative goal that you mentioned above but actually that doesn't matter because if you have a small percent of greedy bastards, they're going to try to co-op the system and either you regulate them or you lose.
3As I said, yea. It’s fucked up for sure that anyone still believe that rich people want to help them but regulation stops that. “I’d be paid more if it weren’t for taxes” is such an insane thing to think after all this time.
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The solution to homelessness is to identify a new corner of the frontier where you can turn young people into soldiers, hand them guns, and tell them to clear out the native inhabitants to claim the free real estate.
The only stops working when you run out of native populations to exploit. Then you run into a bunch of armed young men marching the opposite direction, looking to take your real estate. And that's when you start screaming to high heaven about how we need strong borders and more-lethal militaries and brave freedom fighters willing to give their lives to protect your sacred property.
18They called them “workhouses” in the Victorian era. Now they’d probably call them “mutual obligation settlement centres” or something.
15The capitalist solution: Cut them up and sell their organs, blood, skin, and hair. If they weren't born into wealth they clearly don't deserve to live.
11Just send them to war. You might even rob some resources. Win-win
2The market just picked up on the fact that the younger ones are most delectable to the taste. How do we keep our profits from not going up?
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The unregulated market is a monkey's paw. Not even Adam Smith wanted an unregulated market. In fact he's heavily misquoted by free market ideologues.
9Here me out. what if we build 3-5 story concrete buildings with stairs, and doors, and we don't pay for guards? Wouldn't that be even cheaper?
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