The $700 PS5 Pro doesn’t come with a disc drive

Price Has No Limits™

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Wow, just buy or build a comparable PC at that price point

They talked about doing it this way at launch, which they should have. The drive is available as a peripheral, at the cost difference (actually cheaper) of the digital vs disc console. It simplifies manufacturing and distribution, which helps get more consoles on shelves. Now when it doesn't matter as much, they implement it. Go figure.

As far as killing off physical media, yes it pushes further that way, but honestly the game industry has been not favorable to retail stores for some time. This is the least of the offenses.

Uhhh. Maybe I'm a little TOO far from the console crowd but I'm going to say this anyways.

Who tf cares? I'm a PC gamer and I've been without a disk drive since 2009.

I will happily admit it is definitely a different situation. For one, this would essentially give Sony a monopoly on games. Which would mean that they would never lower prices and gamers have no one to go to other than them. You know what I'm talking about, all the same shit that Nintendo has been doing for years.

I guess that I'm just curious how many people dislike this.

This is yet another nail in the coffin of physical media. Or, in other words games you actually own instead of long term lease.

I think the steam deck is genuinely the only console worth buying these days.

It would be so funny if the EU decided Sony was a gatekeeper on the consoles without disc drives and forced them to allow 3rd party app store on them.

Hey, a guy can dream.

One big reason people still play on consoles to this day is because they own a physical copy of their games and can play on their consoles even offline.

Sometimes

for that value just get a pc honestly not a locked down freebsd based console

At $700 you could build a pretty decent PC that would last a lot longer (3060 12gb, Ryzen 5 5600, 16gb of DDR4), and build a steam library that you'll have 20 years from now. I've had the same monitor, keyboard and mouse for an easy 10; controllers don't last that long. They're reaching a point where there's less and less of an actual argument for owning one.

Unfortunately, physical media for gaming died when always-online DRM was normalized. It doesn't matter if you have a game on a disc when you have to phone home every time to use it. The corporation may still block your access.

One more step in ensuring no one owns anything. Lease or rent are your options.

Reminder that you can put in whatever you want in a PC. And that you can get a decent gaming machine for 1k (700+PS plus).
CD Drive? No problem. DVD? Of course. Another SSD? Get some random 50$ thing and throw it in there. Floppy? Harvest some old PC and voila.

Sony's problems are twofold:

• They are charging an absurd amount of money for a game console
• They are selling a game console that has practically no first party games for it.

If they had plenty of the latter, they could weather this. But there are still games releasing for the PS4, and they have had 1, maybe 2 PS5 releases that would qualify as first party this year (that don't bubble down to PC).

Jesus christ, Nintendo is gonna win it all aren't they?

Physical media or full rejection. Fuck you business school zombies squeezing blood from rocks

Nintendo is going to continue to eat everybody's lunch with decisions like this one

I stopped buying consoles after they wanted to charge me to use the internet. That's not how this works.

Paystation

They don't want you to own* physical media anymore.

Ahhhh, so my ps5 is the most superior PlayStation still, good to know.

All good points in the comments, but something I haven't seen a anyone talk about yet:

WHY is a DISK DRIVE $80??? All it does is read a disk. Any encryption on the disk would be decrypted on the console. External disk drives are like $20. If you specially brand them maybe you could go up to $40.

But $80? That's like a Gameboy Advance. That's a miyoo mini plus. That's an entire console in itself.

799€ here, 920€ with a disc drive. That is stupidly insane for a console. We're almost breaking the 1000€ barrier for an "upgrade", not even the new generation.

I'd bet my money Sony is just testing the grounds to see if they can set PS6 price in a few years over the 1k barrier.

It's too expensive. $500 is already too much for these things.

But capitalism's gotta capitalism.

I think Sony never wanted a physical media PS5 console. The design made it seem like an after thought. Like a growth on the side of sleek lines.

Nah I'm good with my 2017 jailbroken switch with free games lol

What games are even worth it? Sony has like 5 'must play" exclusive games on their console

You can't share or sell the games... Looks like a bad investment...

Like it or not the majority of game purchases are digital these days. It's a sad development for sure. I buy all my console games as physical discs myself.

Why can't you just plug in a random-ass USB 4KBR-disc drive?

Or sell one that we can use to bring in games from PS1, 2, 3, 4 and 5? And state that the drive will be able to be used going forward, into the next gen and beyond.

They've got a rich gaming history at this point and they don't care because they'd rather sell you an $80 digital copy that they can take away at any time and you can't trade it in or really own it. And it's the same with PC games as well, courtesy of Valve and then everyone else.

If the future is digital, we need laws that allow us to transfer ownership of digital content. It would have to be secure, obviously. Not just "steal somebody's console and trade all their games in".

How much space does it come out of the box? I bought my PS5 a year ago.

It came with 667GB of space. Some games take up 100gb.

And now you want to make it digital only??? Uhhhh, fuck that. You better be giving me like 1000 terabytes.

Lol, e-waste

no disk drive and the fucking stand is sold separately! too expensive!

I have no incentive to play the latest and greatest software and hardware, but that’s just me here.

So what makes it pro?

I see lots of people in this thread saying to go to the PC or the Steam Deck, but are we ignoring that both systems do not have a disc drive too?

I mean, aside from the disgusting price of the PS5 Pro not having a disc drive is the biggest offender (and the reason why I am not even considering buying it, despite being a Sony user since the 1st unit).

So I can't play half the games I have, and the other half doesn't need the extra console power. Yay. WOrtH iT.

I’m genuinely curious to how those things are going to sell. My knee jerk reaction is ‘oh hell no’ but there’s a lotta console players out there that want the power but just don’t want to get into PC gaming. Of course there seems to be a lot of people still playing on last gen consoles too so I have no idea where that’s going.

Wow, was waiting on the pro to drop, but now I giess I'll just pass the ps5 generstion altogether. This sucks ass.

ps6 gonna be discless

Sony has been on a roll with the boneheaded products nobody wants.

Yup, not even slightly surprising, I do believe we have saw the last disk in a game console bit of a pity they are doing it in a refresh but you could tell from the bolted on disk drive that the only reason they added one at all is they would have lost alot of people who don’t have internet. The modern world will soon be completely inaccessible without internet.

I think they've lost touch with their user base, but I also think they know that there's some people that are just going to buy the console because they don't have a better option available.

Like don't get me wrong yes it's now the same price as a low end gaming computer and it doesn't have upgrade capability, and doesn't have a physical media drive, but you can put it right where your TV is, so no seperate setup so it takes up less space (PC games on a tv instead of a monitor looks weird and can be a pain to fix). Plus it's easier to use/more user friendly and everything is in one place.

I personally will not be upgrading past my current, as I find this generation to be super lack luster and not cost effective, but I can see why some might, I disagree with it but I see it.

Hey Sony, I love you but you trolling?

You can get a gaming laptop for that stick bazzite on it or use steam big picture on launch you've got a platform that does +60fps 4k HDR with 40 years worth of games. Consoles are getting very close to being irrelevant unless you like sports titles.

700 is insane. I guess I’ll wait for the PC release of Wolverine instead of playing it on the base PS5 then. Sony really shit the bed this cycle.

It was pretty much a given that this would happen, since there were already options with and without disc drives.

And obviously sooner or later gaming will probably move to an entirely online service like streaming.

It's just a matter of time until the internet and worldwide coverage is ready for it. I always imagined that in a distant future we'd basically only buy a controller, that connects to an app that'll let you stream. And every game will be in a subscription service like a Netflix.

Completely different strategy: the PS4 generation has produced a lot of games, sony could have stopped trying to compete with the high end PC market and gone in the Nintendo direction. Gives us new ways to access their library, give developers new tools to play with, release a 2nd mid-gen refresh and release a ps4 slim that is equivalent to the ps4 pro, encourage games for new ps4-slim and ps4 pro+. What do you think?

Id open it up and see if a connector is available and use it if so