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Trump adviser green-lights 'states that want to set up full menstrual surveillance departments'

www.alternet.org Trump adviser green-lights 'states that want to set up full menstrual surveillance departments'

Donald Trump's senior adviser Jason Miller says that under a second Trump presidency, "it's 'going to be up to the states' whether or not they set up regimes to monitor women’s pregnancies so they can prosecute them for getting out of state abortions."During a Wednesday Newsmax interview, the conser...

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So long as they can also set up a semen surveillance department to prosecute men for leaving their jizz between couch cushions and fleshlights.
- I was going to disagree with you about fleshlights, but then I realized that's how fucking asinine this whole menstrual monitoring bullshit is and it was a good analogy.
- You and JD Vance sound like you could be BFFs 🤣
  
  Pretty sure JD would HATE this! Imagine if he has to report all his couch fucking for each of his sperm tax right offs.

What a fucking psycho. Dude looks like he has a freezer full of chopped-up body parts at his house.
- Stored as thin sample slices in binders, as tradition dictates
  
  Binders full of women, you say?

Next they will be tracking every time a girl takes a shit or walks outside. These people are sickening.
- It's a hop, skip, and a jump away from making them cover up head to toe in public and banning them from driving or being seen outside without a man.
  The extremist terrorists were with us in the house the entire time.
  
  The GOP is the American Taliban.
  
  Well our yeehawdist gravy seals share another thing with other religious extremists.
  Flags, trucks, needing to control women because they cannot otherwise get laid...
  
  The DHS reported on the extreme right being the biggest domestic terrorist threat ages ago. The right freaked out, as expected, and it was quickly played down.
  But the DHS was right.
  
  Time to Take Out the Trash

Jesus Christ USA, are you alright?
- No, we're not. Please send help.
  
  Fuck it, I'd welcome an invasion at this point provided whatever country did it super pinky promised not to do half the shit Republicans do.
  
  I thought yall had plenty of those bootstraps you keep talking about. Couldn't you help yourselves with those? /s
- No, we are infected with lots and lots of xtian nationalist bullshit and an antiquated system that overly represents them. We need a system that allows us to ignore them since they are a minority - and let them bray as much as they like, but utterly powerless to tell anyone else how to live their lives.
- It's just the south, they've been trash forever, this isn't anything new.

This needs to be a political ad in every swing state

This article is clickbait garbage. What they said is SO MUCH WORSE, but calling it "Menstrual Surveillance" is fucking stupid. While menstruation and pregnancy are obviously related, they're not the same thing.
What they actually said is that they want to have states he able to monitor pregnancies so they can know if a woman becomes pregnant, but then suddenly isn't anymore, so they can question them for an abortion, either illegally in state or out-of-state. Given they're also pushing to monitor menstrual cycles alongside pregnancies, it's full on police state shit that goes even further than what is described.
Clear. Concise. Factual. That's all you need. The right already gives you what you need to show how fucked up they are. You don't have to clickbait. It's dystopian enough on its own.
- Having lived in the south, nothing about this is remotely surprising.
  100% guarantee most neighborhoods are starting networks that watch local girls to try to monitor if theyre gaining weight and then take a trip, not that they need to be recruited, they're just idle pedophiles anyway.
  Now they have something to threaten girls with for their silence...
- Genuinely wondering: you say they are “pushing to monitor menstrual cycles alongside pregnancy.” How is that not menstrual surveillance? I haven’t dug into this myself but I’m confused by your comment and trying to understand better.
  
  They're pushing for that, but it isn't what this person was taking about that they quoted. Nowhere in the article does any direct quote say that.
  We know that's the path they're going to take by their actions, but they're extrapolating in an article quoting something else.

Republicans are all about the nanny state. Tracking periods, banning books, deciding who gets to have what medications/medical treatments (instead of doctors), trying to control what websites publish, etc.
- Except nannies are supposed to care for children, not persecute them.
  
  Librul!!
  
  DON'T U LOVE FREEDUM?!
  
  The "nanny" in this case is Vicki from Fairly Oddparents.
- Government small enough to fit in your uterus.

This is seriously fucking weird. "how often have you had blood exit your genitals this month, you filthy female" is not a question that anyone should be asking, especially the government. These freaks couldn't even point out anatomical features on a picture of a reproductive system (male or female, but especially female). Like bitch, of you can correctly label and describe the function of all the parts of a woman's sexual anatomy, them maybe you could have some input on the conversation, but even then you still shouldn't be making other people's decisions. Go fund some bridge repairs you vile little troglodites. JFC.

Miller replied, "Well, he's made it very clear that he's not gonna go and weigh in and try to push various states in how they want to go and set up their particular rules and restrictions. That's gonna be up to the states."
Just in case it wasn't clear, they belive that any level of tyranny is fine as long as it's state government doing it, not the federal government.
- Only because they are less likely to control the federal government.
  In the past they demanded free states enforce the fugitive slave act, and sent people into free states to kidnap free men into slavery.

Handmaid’s Tale is a great show
- Started watching that with my wife last night. The rewatch angers the fuck out of me far more than it did in 2017.
- I really don't like these past few seasons though. It's much too dark for me!
- I could not get past the first season, it was so sickening

I cannot wait for Walz vs. Vance. Vance seems like what these people are, distilled. It'll be poetic to watch him get torn apart by a teacher
- There's a great reason they are keeping him from doing real public events, and have instead opted to do these tightly controlled bits. He can't even do those and come off as relatable anyway, so the debate is going to be pretty wild.

Aren't these weirdos just ASKING to be sent tons of used hygiene products for their perusal? I'm sure if enough ladies volunteered, that would soon quench their thirst for knowledge about your bodily functions.
Or...they would totally get off on this. Yeah, it's probably a fetish.

the old "states' rights to impose their own laws in other states." because that worked out so well for them in the 1800s

Seems Taliban-ish to me, which is sadly ironic.
- How is it ironic? The party was hijacked by the dixiecrats whose single issue was Jim Crow.
  They're talibangelists, just with a slightly different prophet.
  Trump is their second coming of Jesus, because he tells them exactly what they want to hear, therefore he must be God.

This chinless taint stain looks like a canned ham got dropped on the floor of a merkin factory.
- Daaaaaaaaang

Good lord, and I thought they went parodic with Homelander

I wonder how they would go about all this. Medical records will have to be divulged to the State so it can track who is pregnant. They'll have to outlaw home pregnancy tests, including buying them through the mail. Otherwise women could privately find out they're pregnant and go out of state for an abortion without the State knowing. They'll also have to monitor phone and email communications for everyone, not just the pregnant person, to make sure any attempt to contact out of state health providers is intercepted. Or maybe they'll just slap an ankle bracelet on pregnant women.
They'll probably also enact laws like the abortion travel ban that Amarillo, TX has on the ballot this November:
The ordinance, first proposed by anti-abortion activists, aims to forbid the use of the city’s roads and highways to seek an abortion out of the state. It would punish anyone aiding a woman seeking the procedure, including by providing funds or transportation, and be enforced through private lawsuits, similar to a 2021 state law that prohibited abortions after about six weeks of pregnancy.

menstrual surveillance departments
But why? This is information that can most certainly be gleaned from just about any data broker. Phone users cannot imagine just how much about their life is being meticulously catalogued and aggregated for ad tech networks.
The Trump team literally just needs to purchase the relevant aggregate data.
If you think I'm just being hyperbolic, btw there is software that can read your heart rate by the changes in red tonalities of your skin on camera, for example.
- But why? This is information that can most certainly be gleaned from just about any data broker.
  Obtaining the actual information is only part of the goal. The main reason is to create a perception in society that "you'll be found out" which goes toward the goal of removing autonomy of women and turn them back into only 'baby making machines'.
  If you want to see how this plays out, we have an example from history, specifically what Romanian dictator Nicolae Ceaușescu did in 1967 making abortion and contraception outlawed:
  From Wikipedia:
  To counter this sharp decline in the birth rate, the Communist Party decided that the country's population should be increased from 20 million to 30 million inhabitants. In October 1966,[1][2] Decree 770 was personally sanctioned by Ceaușescu. Abortion and contraception[citation needed] were declared illegal, except for:
  women over 45 (later lowered to 40, then raised again to 45).
  women who had already borne four children (later raised to five).
  women whose life would be threatened by carrying to term, due to medical complications.
  women who were pregnant through rape and/or incest.
  Enforcement:
  To enforce the decree, society was strictly controlled. Contraceptives were removed from sale and all women were required to be monitored monthly by a gynecologist.[3]: 6 Any detected pregnancies were followed until birth. The secret police kept a close eye on hospital procedures.
  
  women whose life would be threatened by carrying to term, due to medical complications.
  women who were pregnant through rape and/or incest.
  Holy fuck a Romanian dictatorship had it better than some states in the US
  
  all women were required to be monitored monthly by a gynecologist.
  At least we can rest assured on this point. As if a red state would ever make health care that accessible.
- Because they’re not competent. Or smart.

10 years ago, this would be an Onion headline.

“Under his eye.”
- May the Lord open

Two things:
That guy looks like he's intimately familiar with video cameras and 1-way mirrors
I wonder if that one southern Senator fond of underage girls has already volunteered to lead the program?

Giant cunts and enemies of mankind.

Bunch of weirdos

Women must send their used tampons to the state so we can confirm you are not pregnant. Totally not weird.

Nothing weird about this bunch of so-called "Americans".
- "Americans"
  Don't sugar coat it. They're as real an American as I am. More actually, because they like being an American.
  
  I love being an American; I don't like what these so-called Americans - who seemingly have no idea what freedom truly means - are trying to do to my America. These people would be better off in some theocratic state, even if it means they stop talking about Jesus and swap to another Abrahamic religion. Their values are not American values.

Will they send the SWAT team if you miss your period?
- You gotta bleed somehow...

Has anyone been able to verify that he actually said this? The story stems from a Twitter post, and Miller apparently did do an interview on Newsmax on that date. But did he really say this? I'm suspicious because only that one source seems to be available.
NEVERMIND... Talking Points Memo noticed it also

I haven't opened alternet.org since probably 1999. Nice to see they're still banging around.

I hope people set up groups, if they actually make those departments, whose sole purpose is to cause as much damage to their servers as possible.
- Servers. Sure, we’ll add those.

Hey I mean if my state makes a law to hunt down and let's say, disappear, people with the name "Jason Miller" then who's Trump or Jason Miller to do with it?

what now?

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