One frustrating thing about Limbaugh (and Jones and Hannity, et al) is that they made Being Angry a Right Wing Thing.
Extremely frustrating when you see a genocide in Gaza or global temperatures spiking or some cop shoot up a subway over a $3 fare, express anger, and have someone respond "You just sound like Rush Limbaugh".
There are real reasons to feel righteous anger and to use that as motivation to act. But guys like Rush just fill the airways with this white nationalist noise. They make the idea of being angry this exclusive Right Wing attitude to have.
The problem is that you can be angry all day and it won't accomplish anything without coordinated, planned, collective action. And collective action is made more difficult with angry people.
Anger motivates you to act Right Now, which is why it's good for reactionaries. They want you either impotently angry so you can't think clearly to make those long term, organized plans; or they want you mad enough to go do a little stochastic terrorism.
Progressives have a lot of trouble hitting the slow-burn simmer of anger in a way that's motivational and doesn't slip into despair when you get tired from all that rage that you can't turn into immediate results.
The problem is that you can be angry all day and it won’t accomplish anything without coordinated, planned, collective action. And collective action is made more difficult with angry people.
I disagree. People who aren't agitated make for poor partners. They're unreliable, uncommitted, and easily wooed by empty platitudes from the folks committing the offenses.
Anger motivates you to act Right Now, which is why it’s good for reactionaries.
Generic always-on anger burns you out and turns you into a cynic. It's the cynicism that reactionaries feed on. But when you have a baseline moral position and you can recognize what does and does not rise to the level of offense, you can leverage outrage productively rather than feel sour and hateful all the time.
Progressives have a lot of trouble hitting the slow-burn simmer of anger in a way that’s motivational and doesn’t slip into despair when you get tired from all that rage that you can’t turn into immediate results.
Progressives (in the US) have a hard time mobilizing large groups toward productive action because they lack the resources and the institutional structure to mobilize individual activists into a collective workforce. When progressives get access to these kinds of resources, they generate enormous social value in a relatively short amount of time. The despair we routinely see in progressive communities stems from groups that are fractured - often deliberately so - and undermined by state and corporate institutions.
That is frustrating. I would counter those people that being passionate is not the same thing as extremist media personalities that literally profit off outrage. It's okay to hear and react to things, but we shouldn't all be open fucking sores that flip out over literally every single thing we encounter like an autistic toddler: all emotion, no perspective, can't be reasoned with, etc. That's the Republican Outage Machine...
we shouldn’t all be open fucking sores that flip out over literally every single thing we encounter like an autistic toddler: all emotion, no perspective
What happens when I live in a country where more perspective just means witnessing more atrocities?
My brother was into him back in the day (he still has shit taste) and another sibling and I found a clip of him telling fox news he makes things up and does it all for the money. Brother didn’t care and just kept listening to the guy
This misunderstands the motivations of real-life evil people.
Once you accept there is no afterlife, that your legacy means nothing, and that you're a piece of shit who has no desire to contribute to society or help others - only your personal success and self-pleasure while living matter.
I'm an atheist, however my personal interpretation of the afterlife is how people remember you. That way you're judged by your peers (all of humanity).
So arguably being famous is a very good deal, as many more people will remember you. However if you're a shitty bastard, like Limbaugh, you'll be remembered as a greedy count for quite some time before forgetfulness sets in.
Even if you cared about legacy, realistically, how many people are remembered for more than a few generations, if they are remembered at all?
Even the majority of the leaders of nations are only remembered by historians, people with a high interest in history and briefly by some students studying for their next test, and these will be mainly the leaders of their own country. Unless they did something exceptional good or bad.
And then there are a few exceptional high achieving writers, inventors, scientists and academics. Even within their field most become irrelevant and forgotten after a few decades.
Some ordinary people who did extraordinary things might also be remembered.
But if you compare that to the enormous amount of people who have lived and died, basically no one will be remembered after their death. I'm not making excuses for the bad behaviors of horrible people, I'm just saying that losing all relevance and not being remembered after death isn't special.
I don't think that most of the people we might consider evil have that level of self-awareness. Certainly those with a pathological lack of empathy are overrepresented in the highest echelons of power. It doesn't logically follow that they see themselves as bad.
Just to clarify your answer a little bit: this has nothing to do with atheism, nor that atheists think like this. Many of these asshats actually are religious and somehow with mental gymnastics tell themselves they're righteous and good and that they'll get into some imaginary heaven because of their hateful behavior.
This has more to do with mental illness like narcissism, and psychopathy than them being atheist
He's also the reason no conservatives believe in climate change. He started the meme that it's a socialist conspiracy to extract money out of the US. So not only did he not contribute anything worthwhile, he actively worked to make money at the whole world's expense.
That's okay, after filling out a USPS online change of address form I'm now wishing for the death of DeJoy, I can add a random conservative pundit to the list no problem to make up for your lax hate game.
I'm happy to wish a few people a short, nasty death real soon. Limbaugh was on my better off dead list, and I'm glad it was (complications of) a self inflicted lung cancer (COVID?)
I'd say his replacement is Alex Jones, and his replacement is Joe Rogan. It's just a series of ignorant men with microphones and an even more ignorant audience.
Rush, Carlson, Hannity, O'Reilly, no one remembers them or will remember them after they're gone. Agitators who screamed into the void and only served to fatten their pockets and make the world worse.
For a long time, I hated him. Then for a brief moment, I thought he was hilarious because I figured it had to be satire with how over the top it was. Then went right back to hating him when I found out it wasn't satire at all.
I hadn't thought of him since the last time somebody trashed him. That is his legacy. He is like Joseph McCarthy in the 50's. Just another example of what not to be.
I would argue he created a fuckton of value for those that paid him.
Billionaires and the ownership class were the big winners of Limbaughs legacy and the same could be said of the Faux "news" primetime peanut gallery...
Dana Gould: Hey guys, I was just not remembering Rush and not remembering how influential he was and not remembering how much I hated him.
Everyone: Yeah, I don't even remember that he made millions of dollars and I'm not even remembering the exact cemetery that he was buried in. Yay, I'm glad we're all not remembering this.
Thats mostly because he lost his popularity when Internet poscasts started taking over, now we have a new generation of asshole podcasters like Ben Shapiro and Matt Walsh
It would be nice to believe this, but it's just not true. Unfortunately people do remember him fondly. It will take decades before the people who loved him are all dead and history gets to judge him.