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Hamas leader refuses to acknowledge killing of civilians in Israel

www.bbc.com Hamas leader refuses to acknowledge killing of civilians in Israel

Deputy political leader Moussa Abu Marzouk says Hamas will release hostages only if Israel stops fighting.

World News @lemmit.online Hamas leader refuses to acknowledge killing of civilians in Israel

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Challenged by the BBC about the attack of 7 October, Mr Marzouk claimed that Mohamed el-Deif, the leader of Hamas’s Qassam Brigades military wing, had ordered his men to spare civilians.

yeah I heavily doubt that last part. What Isreal is doing to civilians is cruel, unacceptable and should end immediately but let's not forget that the Hamas is exclusively targeting Israeli civilians and also is willingly accepting palestenian civilians as casualties...

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- https://youtu.be/rD7NI0tGbp8?si=LgHAREbj4dnXMpc4
  
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- Hamas is not "exclusively" targeting Israeli civilians. Or do you think they are avoiding military targets? Israel also targets Palestinian civilians, and willingly accepts Israeli civilians as casualties. Literally everything you said applies ten-fold to Israel.
  
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  well they are. Of course they also attack military personnel but their attacks on civilians are also directly targeted at them, there are not casualties like the civilians in the israelian attacks, which of course does not justifies these!
  
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  Hamas goal is to kill all jews. Israels goal is to kill all Hamas fighters. That doesn't add up with your claim.
  
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- It could both be that he told them to avoid civilians AND that fighters still attacked and killed civilians.
  
  That being said, there is actually some evidence to sugeest that a number of October 7 deaths were caused by the IDF itself handling the situation badly and with little regard to the lives of the residents of one kibbutz. According to some eye witnesses, the soldiers who responded to the attack caused a number of homes to be demolished, and later bodies of civilians were found under the rubble. This is more consistent with what we see Israel doing in Gaza with no regard to the lives of Gazans nor the hostages.
  
  Don't get me wrong though, of course everyone will say they ordered their troops to not kill civilians. Even Israel does it and look at the result. Hamas shouldn't have held any civilian hostages, especially not children and elderly that need care they are unlikely able to provide.
  
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  Issue is the Hamas are not an regular military force which makes it hard to target them, they are terrorists and exclusively targeting civilians. Every death on the 7th of october is related to them in the end, because they have decided to actively engage on civilians.
  
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  The soldiers probably made it all worst, but Hamas 100% caused civilian casualties. Even if Hamas members didn't cause them, remember that Hamas asked anyone who had a weapon and was willing to storm the border with them to go in. There are videos of them dragging around wounded civilians and soldiers.
  
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They planned and trained storming houses for months, then sent fighters armed with grenades, knives and assault rifles to undefended purely civilian villages and a music festival.

"But don't hurt anyone, k?"

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Deny deny deny until you believe.

This is what a political stooge looks like, he clearly knows he is lying. But js trying to get the message out.

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- At least in Lemmy it is working, 90% of the leftists in this site would line up to give a BJ to the Hamas members
  
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- There is very clear evidence he is not lying.
  
  https://youtu.be/rD7NI0tGbp8?si=LgHAREbj4dnXMpc4
  
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  No. That's evidence one person wasn't killed. That's not evidence The ROE for other units didn't include mass casualties of civilians. The body cam video, which is easy for you to find, shows people engaged in civilian murder
  
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Disgusting

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This is the best summary I could come up with:

A senior Hamas leader has refused to acknowledge that his group killed civilians in Israel, claiming only conscripts were targeted.

His claims are in stark contrast to the wealth of video evidence of Hamas men shooting unarmed adults and children.

Mr Marzouk, the group's deputy political leader, who is subject to an asset freeze in the UK under counter-terrorism regulations, was interviewed on Saturday in the Gulf.

Mr Marzouk recently travelled to Moscow to discuss eight Russian-Israeli dual citizens snatched on 7 October by Hamas, a proscribed terror organisation in many countries including the UK and US.

Challenged by the BBC about the attack of 7 October, Mr Marzouk claimed that Mohamed el-Deif, the leader of Hamas's Qassam Brigades military wing, had ordered his men to spare civilians.

Mr Marzouk is also listed as a specially designated global terrorist by the US Treasury Department, and is indicted on several charges of co-ordinating and financing Hamas activities.

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This is a leader of one group of rebels. Multiple israeli settlers have confirmed that at least one group of Hamas fighters did exactly what this man is suggesting right after the 7 October aftack

https://youtu.be/rD7NI0tGbp8?si=LgHAREbj4dnXMpc4

Now should be made clear that not all the Hamas fighters are on one line about this, some just want revenge for the opression israel put them through. However since this was a huge undercover operation there is most likely a lot of secrecy going on. Big group discussions about the goal of the operation or even the operation itself were likely not discussed till the last moment and just passed by word of mouth.

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"and that's why I sent my terrorists with 4k cameras to document all their actions" LMAO

Fuck Hamas and all the leftists terrorist apologizers

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But why

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Now lets see Israel acknowledge all the babies they are killing.

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