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Tall trucks, SUVs are 45% deadlier to US pedestrians, study shows

www.reuters.com Tall trucks, SUVs are 45% deadlier to US pedestrians, study shows

Trucks and sport utility vehicles with hood heights greater than 40 inches are about 45% more likely to cause fatalities in pedestrian crashes than shorter vehicles with sloped hoods, according to new research from the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety.

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U.S. vehicle fuel efficiency standards administered by NHTSA have encouraged automakers to build larger vehicles. The bigger the vehicle, the lower the fuel efficiency target it has to meet.

That's some monkeys paw type of shit law

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- Yeah preverse incentives. When doing the wrong thing makes the most sense for the individual. Happens often in tragedy of the commons situations.
  
  If you hit a pedestrian it is better for you that they die. If you find an endangered animal on your land it is better for you to kill it. If you have a child with someone who makes minimum wage it is better for you to divorce.
  
  Maybe it is too much to expect but for things like this, when public policy experts came up with a standard instead of just inheriting a situation, that they plan for these things in advance. Spend a few moments and look at where the incentives are before just hammering a new policy into place.
  
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  If you hit a pedestrian it is better for you that they die
  
  Uh maybe in China. I would not say that in the United States. Manslaughter is a serious charge.
  
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- Wait until you hear how exhaust fumes shrink your penis
  
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  Does that also explain Truck Nutz?
  
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- That's Regulatory Capture. Laws made by and for the industry they're supposed to regulate.
  
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- Recently bought a new diesel silverado 3500 for my ranch. It's enormous, I'm glad I didn't get the dually option as it's hard enough to drive in the city. Most of its job however is pulling trailers around.
  
  That said, on highway if I drive the speed limit and take it easy I can get 9L/100km. It's unreal that such a huge truck will get almost the same economy as our KIA SUV.
  
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  I didn't think that sounded right so I looked it up; Chevrolet themselves say it's between 11 and 12 litres/100km
  
  I don't know what Kia you have, but their diesel Sorento SUV averages 6-7 litres/100km, nearly half what your tiny-penis truck uses
  
  Funny also that people pull trailers in every country in the world using much smaller trucks without a problem
  
  You don't need that truck, same way as nobody else on the planet, no matter what their profession, needs it
  
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No shit.

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- big thing smash more than small thing, news at 11
  
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The US public has repeatedly demonstrated that it would rather die than make even minor adjustments in their lives. So don't expect anything to get done.

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- Smaller cars? Over my dead body! Literally.
  
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  Have you tried to buy a small car/truck lately?
  
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I have been thinking about getting some "Child Killer" stickers to start slapping on trucks that are particularly unsafe and huge. I don't get why in neighborhoods that in all kinds of other ways frowns upon putting kids at risk (no driving fast for example) dumbass men are allowed to own MASSIVE trucks that raise the risk of running a child over by a huge amount and no one shames them.

Time to start shaming these people more.

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- Go for it! The cost would be pretty inexpensive.
  
  *Edit It's funny how the downvoters aren't okay with a simple sticker, but are okay with two ton vehicles killing more people than usual.
  
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  How much could a vandalism charge cost Michael? $10?
  
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- U need to care more about other shit instead of this.
  
  Child killer stickers 🤣 get over yourself
  
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  The Netherlands is so bike-friendly right now because of a wave of backlash in the 70s to the harms of their post WW2 car-centric design. The protests were literally called 'Stop de Kindermoord', which is Dutch for 'stop the child-murder'.
  
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  Seems like your car needs to be stickered haha
  
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  And what do you care about?
  
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- Shaming truck owners rather than shaming parents not teaching their kids to not play in streets, sure bud.
  
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  Why shouldn’t kids play in the streets? They certainly used to do it all the time. Why don’t we reduce speeds or car access to areas with a lot of pedestrians?
  
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  I haven't seen such blatant victim blaming for a while
  
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  Yes, you have it exactly without irony.
  
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  Isn't it kind of silly to you that the vast majority of our modern world is exclusively a car zone? All people have now is sidewalks, right next to all the exhaust fumes.
  
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- Permanently Deleted
  
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  Well the industry basically made CAFE so...
  
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- Get rid of cafe entirely.
  
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Yeah, but "ma freedom"

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- That's right. Ma freedom allowed me to purchase a gas guzzling Jeep instead of a hybrid or EV. Viva USA!
  
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  Did you know that just because you can doesn’t mean you should?
  
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I have a small truck, and its A pillar has blocked my view of pedestrians more than once. I have to move my head to check. With big vehicles, I imagine there's even more of a problem.

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- I ran over my friend in high school while driving a Ford Ranger. She is 5'1 but still, if her hands hadn't flopped up in the air I might've killed her. Worst part is, I'd just dropped her off.
  
  Always need to be careful driving a big vehicle. Learned that the hard way.
  
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- Its actually the opposite, the bigger and boxy-er the vehicle, the bigger the windows and the less obstructions from bodywork. The added height also allows you to see much further away and over obstructions like lines of cars, stopped traffic, landscaping, etc. .
  
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next they’re going to try to tell me tanks are more deadly than four door sedans. does anybody buy this stuff?

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I miss pop up headlights

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These flat fronted high up ones have made their way to Europe how are they legal

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I read that as "Tall trucks, SUVs are 45% deadlier to US presidents, study shows", and was like: how did they do that study?

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Maybe it's how they are designed. I've sat in a number of them that have ugly blind spots. Back left is a big problem on a lot of them.

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- I've responded to a bunch of "car vs pedestrian" calls. With adults a low speed hit is usually some minor injuries like lower legs, arms, etc. If they're hit hard sometimes their head hits the windshield. The victim ends up on top of the hood and rolls off the side or up and over the car.
  
  If it's a truck their injuries are more serious. Hip, rib, shoulder/arm, spine, and head injuries. They get hit high and knocked into the ground -- and sometimes partially or completely run over.
  
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- Yes, it is.
  
  Big cars are heavier, taller, and have larger blind spots. The first two make them deadlier in an accident, the last makes it easier to run someone over in a crosswalk, parking lot or driveway.
  
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Haha pedestrians don't vote so too bad

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- Cars don't vote. Pedestrians are the only option, except wheelchair bound people I guess. You're only not a pedestrian when in your car, but you have to encounter other vehicles on foot before and after being in the car.
  
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  But people who own cars vote. Pedestrians usually hate all parties and won't bother to vote. They wont even vote to at least not let the other party win.
  
  They go for a bike ride or drink kambocha in their bachelor apartment while looking up fall scarfs for men. Then scream racists at everyone after the guy they really hate wins the election. Then they go downtown and let air out of peoples tires and post on r/fuckcars and snicker and jeer with other pedestrians about how they hate car heads
  
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hell yea brotherrrrr

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Easy, just drive them in Mexico or Canada and they’d be fine.

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- Lmao, I am sorry you are being down voted. This is funny
  
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