Trump backs off as Hyundai factory ICE raid enrages Korea
Trump backs off as Hyundai factory ICE raid enrages Korea

Trump backs off as Hyundai factory ICE raid enrages Korea

Trump backs off as Hyundai factory ICE raid enrages Korea
Trump backs off as Hyundai factory ICE raid enrages Korea
Honest question: why were highly skilled Korean engineers working "illegally" in USA to begin with? Why didn't they go through the process to get a worker's visa or whatever?
Another honest question: why do we have a scumbag for president? Who the hell voted for him anyway?
why were highly skilled Korean engineers working "illegally" in USA to begin with?
Most of them say they had valid visas or work authorization.
The U.S. has a visa waiver program where people can come into the U.S. without a visa, and have certain rights similar to visa holders. Many of the South Korean workers have taken the position that the visas they had that allowed them to work for 6 months, or the visa waivers they had entitled them to do temporary work for less than 90 days, and that they were within those time windows.
The lawsuits being filed also allege that immigration officials acknowledged that many of the workers did have legal rights to work, but that they were deported anyway.
So no, I don't think it's been shown that the workers did anything illegal. It really sounds like ICE fucked up by following a random tip a little too credulously.
This. All articles I've read that have interviews with the deported people concur that they had work visas or visa waivers. They weren't in the US illegally because businesses that send employees overseas aren't that stupid. ICE targeting them is just the dumbest thing they could do, and treating them as ICE did is currently being investigated in South Korea for human rights violations. Seriously you should read their accounts of their captivity, it's horrific.
I really hope Hyandai and LG tell the US to get stuffed.
You have accidentally blamed the victims. It is common around the world for people to work abroad, and we almost always do what our bosses tell us. Our bosses, of course, understand the laws of the places where we'll be working, and they tell us what papers to fill out for immigration and visa purposes. Every multinational company has several people in HR who are experts on this topic.
So the real question to ask is, "Did their employers try to circumvent the law?" ... I think probably the answer is no, but if you think the answer is yes, then you should immediately ask, "Why didn't ICE arrest the employers, then?"
Also, immigration violations are almost never illegal. They're not crimes; they are civil infractions. Like parking tickets.
I'm sorry that you misinterpreted my tone and misinterpreted what I said. Let me be more clear: South Koreans are awesome and they did nothing wrong. Why do you think I'm blaming them? Did you also miss my second paragraph where I indicated my opinion that Donald Trump is an absolute douchebag?
Yup they won’t be coming back and why on earth would they do anything else with them in the future.
"We're acting exactly like Nazis in Nazi Germany and I just don't understand why no one wants to do business with us!"
In the aftermath of WW2, it was decided that all those companies that worked with Hitler building bombs and guns and other military goods, they were all innocent of wrongdoing. It wasn't their fault, they said, it's unavoidable -- that's just how business works, they said.
Also the guy from Ireland who had his subdermal piercings involuntarily cut out without anesthetic.
If we’re going off history, it’s bad news because fucking EVERYBODY still did business with the Nazis.
To be fair, lots of companies wanted to do business with the Nazis. Most businesses now don't have an issue with Trump being a fascist, but that it's unpredictable. That's bad for business.
He’s an incompetent child rapist
You don't know that. Maybe raping children is the one thing he's good at?
Maybe questioning his child-raping prowess is the key to make him admit it? 🤔🤔
Well, he’s doing a great job getting away with it!
You don't know that. Maybe he likes incompetent children. After all, smart people don't like him.
Well, PedoTrump hasn't had any consequences for raping children yet, so you may be right.
oh is that those trump files I keep hearing about, the one with his dead friend Jeffrey? LoL
Trump backs off
The damage is already done. He got to stuff hundreds of Korean workers in one of his torture prisons while extorting the company and the country for their release. He's not backing off. He's pulling his fist back for another swing. Fucking headline journalists are too "TACO" pilled to see the next blow coming.
Trump didn't personally order this raid. He told ICE they were weapons free, here's your quota. Now that the predictable consequences are hitting, "Not like that!"
Hyundai already announced a two to three month delay on this plant after this whole thing. They aren't walking away, but this isn't an event they are forgetting.
It won't matter what President comes after this one, this whole thing is going to influence investment from South Korea for some time.
If you were a foreign company considering investing a substantial amount of money to build a plant in the U.S., and then the unstable authoritarian dictator of that country pulls a stunt like this, you're going to reconsider putting any more capital at risk.
I've seen this plant, and it's massive. I don't know how close to completion they are, but billions have been spent. If they pull out they are going to take a hell of a loss. Hopefully that means they'll work to weaken Trump and the GOP in order to help their bottom line.
An unstable authoritarian dictator who, as way of a supposed apology, has literally told you that he's going to do it again as soon as he's stolen your technology, with the stated intention of putting you and your whole country out of business.
Only reasonable course of action seems to write the factory down as a loss and never set foot in the USA again.
They apparently are however.
How stupid corporations can be.
if i were korea, i would just cut my losses and build in another country, like mexico and canada. or build it in a blue states, but foreign companies love the lack of labor protections in red states
Nah. Things will return to normal after we elect a stable president and congress.
(X) Doubt
When Foreign Companies who are building extremely complex products, machines, and various other 'things,' come into the United States with massive Investments, I want them to bring their people of expertise for a period of time to teach and train our people how to make these very unique and complex products, as they phase out of our Country, and back into their land," the president posted on Truth Social, adding “I don’t want to frighten off or disincentivize Investment into America by outside Countries or Companies. We welcome them, we welcome their employees, and we are willing to proudly say we will learn from them.”
You know what's missing there?
An apology.
Also several inappropriately capitalized letters. Trump didn't write this.
You know what's missing there?
The unredacted Epstein list!
When has Trump use a word as big as disincentivize in the last 15 years? His media representative needs to up their game.
AI writes most of his posts now.
I'd like to see him try to pronounce that.
trump, apologizing never. Like most right winger, they give a typical corporate apology, a non-apology or they deflect the attention on an percieved enemy.
They can never admit being wrong. They either deflect or double down.
he did not write that.
Divest from America! Shrink their economy!
Statesian here. I fully support this. Some people don't learn unless it hurts.
I'm sorry that you get hurt by this too.
Seriously, the rest of the world:
Revolutionary defeatism stock is rising
Lowest IQ president in U.S. history.
Also a literal traitor to our nation, its Constitution, and democracy in general.
Don’t forget degenerate pedophile and co-conspirator of Jeffrey Epstein.
I should upvote because Drumpf has, in a very real sense, blood on his hands from his stochastic terrorism, mafioso fascist/rhetoric and policies; I should downote because political violence really doesn't make things better; and yet evil also triumphs when good people do nothing. What to do, what to do...
Will nothing rid us all of this turbulent turd? (Note "nothing", not 'no one')
Idk, I feel better with Kirk dead. Also, he can't keep spreading his hate to millions, so that's better too. Political violence doesn't always makes things better, but sometimes it does, and I think a lack of Trump would be a good thing.
He had blood on his ear, too
Don't worry! In 20 years while we're still squabbling about climate change it will wipe the board clean! Then all will be steeped in squalor and helplessness!
To any foreign entities, companies, individuals who haven’t caught on to the obvious truth: You are not safe here, your investments are not secure here, any visas, treaties, contracts are all 100% revocable despite any perception that they are legally binding. Do not come here. Despite the fact that there are good and rational people fighting to change this, the hard fact is that we are flaming out, and there is no telling what destruction and chaos is coming.
Just look at the destruction and chaos we perpetrated around the world when our society was at its height and our population had the most accommodating economic conditions in history.
our society was at its height and our population had the most accommodating economic conditions in history
I think that's the thing the populace isn't feeling yet. It hasn't impacted their comfort enough for them personally, yet. I never understood the mindset people had that led to "first they came for...". I no longer have that naïveté, for I am seeing it unreeling in real time.
Well, yeah, the number of people even aware that this happened is probably small relative to the adult population, and the number of people aware enough to remember what you’re talking about if you asked them on the street is even smaller. Of course, there’s a lot of awful things of important magnitude happening at a faster pace than usual, so I can see how difficult it can be to keep track.
The only foreigners coming into America should be members of an intervening military coalition.
The only foreigners coming into America should be members of an intervening military coalition.
Americans need to fix their own shit.
Don't be expecting the rest of the world to rescue you from all this foot shooting that your country is doing to itself.
TACO
https://www.tiktok.com/@casadimusic/video/7509992684627479838?lang=en
Edit: sorry it’s a Chinese spyware link
This was such a preventable suicide, lol
This entire train wreck was preventable.
Death by a thousand cuts, but we are cutting ourselves.
Y'all acting like Trump personally ordered the raid and is suddenly backing up, TACO.
Trump told ICE, "You're weapons free, you got a quota." And they went for it. Because of course they did.
This is Trump screaming, "Not like THAT!" Which is somehow hilarious and horrifying at the same time.
Well, the desk in the oval office used to have a simple plaque on it that said: "the buck stops here".
Mother was a narcissist, not on Trump's level, but I've never known another person so eat up with NPD. Impossible to overstate that these people cannot understand personal responsibility for their actions. Their failures are always someones else's failures. They cannot fail.
I was well into my 40s before it occurred to me, mother never once admitted fault or said she was sorry. Sure, some people act like that, sometimes, but you can tell they have a sense of guilt, a sense of wrongdoing. Sure, we've all know people who misdirect blame. A true narcissist cannot feel those emotions, cannot be wrong.
Telling a lie is a falsehood you know is false. Trump has never lied. He believes every word that has ever come out of his mouth. It tears my brain apart every time he's accused of lying or bending the truth. Anyone having a hard time with the notion I just described is suffering cognitive dissonance. Have fun with that, he can't feel it. You can because you're sane.
Trump isn't playing games. He isn't a tactical or strategic genius. He's simply a wealthy narcissist who struck political gold. He got dumb luck, like some of us do, and ran with it.
The buck still stops there because dump loves the dollar menu
The idiot leader was too stupid to provide contingencies. And the ICE goons are too stupid to understand them anyway.
A competent leader would apologize on behalf of the United States, whether it was his fault or not.
He really has got porridge for brains. It amazes me he can manage simultaneous walking and talking.
Why on earth would foreign companies want to invest in the US right now? He is the one that's making it less likely, there was plenty of foreign investment in the US under previous administrations then this moron came along and ruined it all.
Trump walks? I only ever see him behind something hiding how fat he is.
Their cheap AI software can only do realistic videos of him sitting or swinging a golf club. I guess they didn't have enough data for anything else.
He waddles for a few metres, it's not like he goes on hikes or anything.
Yeah, he walks like the front half of a centaur. And he talks like a centaur's asshole with the runs.
The one good thing about Trump ffs
Pretty sure this is how racists determine a suitable client race. Abuse them & see if they come back for more.
South Korea needs to tell the USA to pound sand & open those factories elsewhere.
Canada would be happy to host more production facilities, and treat them a hell of a lot better than the US too
They need to start by removing the support structure from the building itself, they should not have a working facility when it is seized.
He chickened out again?
Pfft, a proper real man and leader would've gone down to that concentration camp and punched each one of those Koreans himself!!!
would’ve gone down to that concentration camp and punched each one of those Koreans himself!!!
Knowing what I know of Koreans, I'd love to have seen the result of that. I wouldn't rate Trump's chances of coming out unscathed.
And then visited their parents. Popped in for a tea. Made some small talk.
And theeen spat in their mothers face. And fuck their fathers in the ass.
More like their mother would have spat tea in his face, and I wouldn't wish any man to have to suffer fucking trump.
Quintessential loudmouth chickenshit performs as expected
you took the word (specifically chickenshit, as in "hey krasnov, why you being such a chickenshit") right out of my mouth.
At this point, I wouldn’t blame any company that immediately ceased expansions in America and started to consider moving existing production facilities to adjacent countries, like Canada.
Canada is too friendly to America. Invest in Mexico. Help them hold the wall.
Epstein's Taco chickens out again.
TACO Don...
Canada, on the other hand, would be happy to host a Hyundai plant once again.
Hey fascist! Catch!
A rare case where the AI slop is less repulsive than the actual person. Still repulsive, of course.
Another unsurprising TACO Tuesday.
Taco
I watched a documentary today about Amanda Knox, an American who was accused of murder in Italy in 2007, apparently Trump wanted America to boycott Italy over that
Fat idiot.
Its too late, damage is already done you dumbass