Charlie Kirk in his own words. Half of the United States is paying tribute to this man.
Charlie Kirk in his own words. Half of the United States is paying tribute to this man.
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I don’t condone what happened to Charlie Kirk, but Charlie Kirk condoned what happened to Charlie Kirk.
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People often use the word "Ironic" wrong. A person who encourages gun violence, dying of gun violence, is a perfect example of true irony.
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It's like a bulleeeeeeet in the neck when all you needed was a fork
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I could care less what happened. And hope a couple more go. They want the guns don't care about shootings. Well maybe if a couple of them die instead of kids they well start caring.
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They've never cared about the victims of gun violence before.
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Proverbs 11:10:
When the righteous prosper, the city rejoices; when the wicked perish, there are shouts of joy.
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That's a circlejerk. Everybody believes that they are on the good side.
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Really dumb take, and simply not true. Plenty of bad people know they are doing wrong, and they do it anyway, because they want what they want, and they are going to get it. Every criminal knows they doing wrong, that's why they try to hide it.
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That's a circlejerk. Everybody believes that they are on the good side.
Hitler
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I’m sure glad he’s dead.
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Me too! Fascists deserve bullets!
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I'm certainly not losing any sleep over it. Lived in hate and died because he didn't hate enough.
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He is being turned into a martyr for the cause. Schools and streets will be named after him soon.
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well the erika is too, she dint shed a single tear, and was selling MERCH at his funeral, plus the "memorial was a political rally for trump. Also the fact that she WORE WHITE too.
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trump, and the gop is doing everything in thier power to do 3 things: distract from epstein, grift from the stupid voters, buying thier merchandise(especially at the funeral), shore up domestic alt-right support(must keep the propaganda going somehow), while not acknowledging the shooter was more right wing than he was.
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You’re a piece of shit
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no u
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Behold: A snowflake.
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I will not celebrate his death, but I can’t muster up any sympathy for the fact he can’t spread this disgusting, hate-filled vitriol anymore.
If you think he was anything but a net negative to society, corrupting young minds and fostering vile ideologies, you can kindly go fuck yourself.
I am not happy he was killed, but I will not mourn a virulent fascist.
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And we all think you're a piece of shit for not being glad he's gone.
Which of his views were near and dear to you, comrade?
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No. You.
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Waaaah waaah fox news told me all lefties are soft and scared and easy to bully, they aren't allowed to say mean things about US, this is bullshit I'm going to hide under mommies skirt
All the leftists I know watched ol kirky get aerated on repeat and MST3K'd that shit. Guess we're just tougher and less empathetic than your pansy republican ass, just like he would've wanted
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Almost all of the people paying tribute to him didn't care at all about him a couple weeks ago will stop caring about him completely in a few weeks.
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Bingo. At least not beyond the tragedy of a young person dying.
To steal the term: 'virtue signaling'
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Eh, I'd wager alot of these people got seduced by self-righteous outrage. It makes people feel good about themselves.
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Frequently wrong, never in doubt.
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I'm further insulted by the fact this person got such a platform to spout off absolute trash.
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So many welcoming arms 😡
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like shapiro, crowder, CANDACE owens, and others. they are propped up by Putin, through a SHell corporation. it isnt by accident, also plus the amount bots/AI to spread thier edited Videos on Youtube. they are essentially the "rabble rousers" of the gop.
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As Charlie Kirk said, Candace Owens took a white man's job.
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The gall for this piece of shit to have called another person unintelligent or sociopathic, holy fuck. No tears will be shed by me.
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You can see him distort his face even to make some of his claims. I couldn't watch past several seconds. That doesn't strike me as being confident. Though he clearly wanted to say those things. Real piece of trash.
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Holy God man. I expected it to be bad and it was so much worse.
I do understand saying deliberately wrong things just to get attention, and I think assassinating anybody is a horrifying and wrong thing to do, but out of all the variety, the thing about Clarence Thomas being greater than MLK Jr makes me want to go punch his corpse in the face.
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It is even worse. That clip at the end where he says "it's worth it", was in response to school shootings.
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Sitting in a tent labeled "prove me wrong" in the US while arguing against gun control is just.. well, let's just say the only disqualifying thing for him is actually the fact he has children.
If someone can prove they're not his then we may have a winner.
Edit their - > they're
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Its also heavily edited to make it look so much worse.
Ive give the first example, the "If I see a black man flying a plane...." one. The context was DEI. He was talking about the resent the cases where DEI initiatives were putting people into positions either in jobs or in colleges based not on their qualifications, but on their skin colour and/or sex/gender. It wasnt just a blanket statement that black people cant do jobs at high levels, it was statement about how shitting employment and enrolment practices are, that we are no long getting the best person for the job.
An example of this in my own country is the RAF. They were caught passing over more qualified straight white men for promotion because they wanted more women and people of colour. The excuse given at the end of the investigation was that it was "positive discrimination", so therefor it was totally fine to do it. Turns out, it wasnt.
Another example here is George Abaraonye, the president elect of the Oxford Union. His grades didnt meet the requirement to even be considered for a place. But he got a place anyway based on... you guessed it. The fact that hes black. And even though hes made many public statements that call for violence over debate, hes now the president elect of the Oxford Union. A debating society.
So while Kirk is/was still a bellend, he didnt say what the video makes it look like it said most of the time. Why are people doing this? I dont know. Because the shit he actually said was bad enough. It didnt need this fiction that everyone repeats.
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Ok add the context: He was responding to the article that United was going to add more women and people of color to their... TRAINING program. Is there anything wrong with adding DEI to a training program as an opportunity? Both groups are drastically underrepresented, like in the under 10 percent range or so.
The qualifications are the same, they can't be a pilot without the qualifying. It was not a pass to skip training or auto pass a test.
So either Charlie is lying, stupid, or just plain racist. He does not get a pass on that. He was definitely saying they cant do the job.
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honestly I think he makes himself look plenty bad editing aside. have seen plenty of clips of him talking about women and minorities - there's no 'context' that makes calling people of color DEI at every turn OK.
Frankly I find your fixation on the DEI thing - both in the RAF and otherwise - telling. you're so busy worrying about what other people accomplished perhaps you should focus on your own fuckin lane.
no one took your opportunities.
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And the clip at the end about it being worth it was about school shootings. He thinks school shootings are worth it for gun rights.
This was about 250 clips. Are you telling me every single one of those was perfectly fine in context?
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Well, no. Kirk was still a shit. These conartists will take a sliver of truth and build a racist narratives around it. Anyone who could cut though the bullshit and deliver a good faith discussion on DEI gets drown out by the charlitins because there's no audience for that. Kirk was both proving a shit produce to his customer base and increasing that customer base because he always had to ratchet up his rhetoric because he's competing against the other shitspinners.
Another example here is George Abaraonye, the president elect of the Oxford Union. His grades didnt meet the requirement to even be considered for a place. But he got a place anyway based on… you guessed it. The fact that hes black. And even though hes made many public statements that call for violence over debate, hes now the president elect of the Oxford Union. A debating society.
How do you even fucking know that? Why are you worried about a "debating society"? Are you worried that someone unqualified to be a debater has the position now and we'll all have lower quality debates on the shelves of grocery stores? The only reason you give a shit about that is because someone told you to.
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The DEI pilot clips were also edited alongside his comments about Michelle Obama and a couple of other prominent black women (the "brain processing power" clip) to make it seem like he was saying black pilots are stupid. However, the DEI argument is not an intelligent or nuanced one and you are falling into the trap of giving it more respect than it deserves. It's an obvious trojan horse for racism and paragraphs of anecdotes from a different country don't change that.
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DEI initiatives were putting people into positions either in jobs or in colleges based not on their qualifications, but on their skin colour and/or sex/gender
...they just added those to "being good at sports" as far as US colleges go...
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Good riddance.
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Pretty much what I expected tbh. Surprised it wasn't worse
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jesus christ it just keeps going....and going....and going
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And that is the tip of the iceberg because Seneca could have put together a series-worth of hate quotes from Kirk. He spent years and years spreading hate, fear, and stochastic terrorism.
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Conservative Talking Head "Charlie Kirk had the views of any mainstream Republican"
Clip show of Charlie Kirk saying hateful things
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Yeah, he sure did.
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In Polish we ask "co mu strzeliło do głowy"* when someone voices stupid ideas and it think its beautiful.
*literally "what has shot into his head"
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In German we ask those people "Hast du Lack gesoffen?"
Literal translation: Did you drink varnish? (Large amounts are somewhat implied)
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To that end I highly recommend "Moscow-Petushki".
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Well... Neck. Close enough?
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“co mu strzeliło do głowy”*
I really need to know how to say this properly.
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https://translate.google.com/?sl=auto&tl=en&text=co+mu+strzeli%C5%82o+do+g%C5%82owy&op=translate
Click the little speaker icon on the polish side and you can hear how it's pronounced.
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Same
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...Simone Biles is weak? The fuck?
I knew about a lot of the other shit he said, but that one is just... baffling
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she is black and a woman, that is enough of a reason for the righties.
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eww. black AND a woman? is there any worse person ever?
/s to be safe.
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Apparently she's only the GOAT because of DEI, or maybe Critical Race Theory.
I guess thousands of hours in the gym since she was a baby, then winning dozens of tournaments and Olympics, have nothing to do with it. The only reason she's considered great, is because her gymnastics judges from all over the world decided to apply DEI and Critical Race Theory to ALL her performances, and give her better scores then her white (or other black) teammates/ opponents, and they did it at every tournament, for YEARS.
That's how she became the greatest of all time. Not because she really is. That title should go to a white gymnast, just because she's not black.
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I imagine he was talking about her decision to pull out of competition for a while due to mental health. (And now she's back and crushing it again.)
Still makes him wrong. And he was still a racist asshole. But I bet that what he was on about.
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She took a break from gymnastics for mental health reasons. I expect this is why she is “weak”.
I’m sure the real reason to attack her is to convince others to see metal health struggles as weakness, so they don’t stop producing capital.
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I have sound off and that's enough to know about him.
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No comment on genocidal replacement theory or Christofascist rationale for Zionaziism. Why omit the absolute worst of Kirk?
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Pretty much every NAZI trope
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Way more than mildly infuriating. The celebration of this guy is one of the most upsetting things to have happened in my lifetime.
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Half!
So it doesn't help to shun his supporters.
Take back their hearts. The racists stole them. Fight the ideology, not the people.
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The masses are asses.
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Aye, Charlie, you were dealing with MAGATs, vermin, and swine, but enough about your followers.
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Like I said before, "Good Riddance!".
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Thank you for posting this. I had family that was confused about my repulsion and disgust concerning Kirk. Only encountering him in the limited capacity that he would be talked about in church. Digging on the web or YouTube even just returns a deluge white washing of his character. Even knowing the clips to look for, it was hard to find actual examples of them. Due to all the flood of bullshit coverage. Saved and Shown.
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thats why the gop is trying very hard to martyr him, but hes spew so much vile hateful things, and have been used as propaganda on youtube for months on end, its hard to find something Righteous, justice about him. unlike if someone shot a person in the MEast.
and also the gop dont really care about him, they are grifting right now.
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The issue is, clips like this, people will just say "you took his words out of context with sound bites".….while completely ignoring that the shit he says in this clip, has no way to get better in context. It's just straight up racist hate filled maga speak.
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The ones that do that were never reachable anyhow. Which unfortunately includes my mother. Upon being confronted with this she kept saying that the clips were taken out of context. When I asked her what context would make the things he said not hateful and bigoted. All she could do was keep repeating that they were taken out of context.
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How can I share this outside of Lemmy? I know just the guy.
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You can right-click or long-press the video in a browser to access the link to the video
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give them this link https://files.catbox.moe/do6eyg.mp4
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Jokes on them I'm unemployed
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Isn't the context of the whole black thing about DEI/Affirmative action though?
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But that's bullshit. They are still qualified it just makes you look at other people. The amount of people who don't understand DEI is insane. Watch John Stewart's video in it.
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Sounds like something to put on my list.
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Yes, it is. He always used to harp on affirmative action DEI leading to less qualified and able people getting jobs. So this results in the perception that any minority working in a qualified profession like pilot is only there because of DEI, not because of their skills and qualifications.
Watch this video for context. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDjN6A8ruo4 Parts of it are used in the submitted edit.
Charlie Kirk has said plenty of crap. There’s no need to misrepresent his views by selective editing.
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But that is not what DEI does. DEI is there ro combat the old white boys club. What makes you think hiring Smith's sin is going to get you the best candidate. To think without DEI you where Gurung the best candidate is such bullshit.
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Charlie Kirk has said plenty of crap. There’s no need to misrepresent his views by selective editing.
That's why I'm questioning why people are using this. There's literally a clip of him going on about "prowling blacks"
I think his point was that affirmative action would justify forms of racism in a way, and that was a bad thing, so he was calling it out
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what is up with that ear ring?
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Wow look at what it turn into when you sell your soul. A real demon mfer.
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I'm an atheist. I see 'demonic' things. It's the religious white supremacy Americans. It goes against everything Christianity stands for. Spreading hate, indoctrination, racism, misogyny, child abuse, deportations, violence, crimes against humanity, etc. They don't even know what, their own religion is about. These people are just pure evil and justify everything they say and do by a fictional man in the sky.
Didn't Christians talk about false prophets and the devil pretending to be holy?
I keep putting it off, but I'm creating an LLC so I can start a damn church.
I can't get a fucking job to save my life, so why not just profit from the ignorance and stupidity of the lumpenproletariat?
My time is now.
They did. Several hundred years ago. Then it fell out of fashion.
As someone who was raised Christian and considers myself one, I think Christianity has a few fundamental philosophical flaws (every religion does).
The major issue is hinging everything on an abstract ideal of faith. Under Christian doctrine one can only get into heaven by believing in Jesus. He is the only path to salvation.
This creates a mk Oral quandry. Could the worst person in the world beleive that Jesus is their Lord and Saviour and get into heaven? Perhaps not, they must also aspire to live a Christ-like life, and the worst person likely isn't doing that.
Let's instead imagine the most Christ-like and righteous person in the world. What if they don't believe in Jesus? According to Christian doctrine, they will burn in hell for eternity.
If this is the case, what's the point of living a good life? Can't we all just believe in Jesus and just coast through life being morally ambiguous and still make it into heaven in the end?
What you end up with is a religion where it starts to feel like only one thing matters - do you believe in Jesus? It doesn't take long before moral principles are thrown out the window and people start judging others less so by their thoughts, words and deeds but instead by just how much they beleive in Jesus.
Other religions have their flaws but particularly Eastern religious philosophy at least attempts to tackle how to live a good life a bit more directly.
The deeper you go into the Christianity, the more obsessive it becomes about faith and the less concerned it is with how to live a good life.
Which is pretty warped if you think about it - shouldn't the whole point of religion be to learn how to live well?
Surely not the whole point, since you don't need religion to do that. This is a question that philosophy has been tackling for thousands of years.
One big problem that I see is people neglecting the good life on earth for their anticipated good life in heaven. Why bother trying to live well on earth when you're only going to be here for a short time, and you'll have an eternity of living well in heaven?
What I think is flawed with the religious MAGA is that they forget one of the biggest fundamental thing of christianity: forgiveness. They don't care about that. They just use their religion as a basis for their hatred towards others so they can create their perfect world. It's like they only want to be a good christian if the setting is up to their standards. And they are willing to do anything to reach that setting, no cost is too great. Christian values only apply when you're dealing with other Christians. When they aren't Christian (exactly the way you want them to be, like white cis hetero) you can dehumanize them and do whatever you want to them with a clear conscience. Like, how fucked up are these people?
Religion is a way to show people how to live. Many people need it so they don't have to think about it themselves. They need the structure. Sure, I can understand, even though I think it's dumb. Why the need to believe in something unnatural, a fantasy, to know how to live like a proper human and how to treat others? But ok, sure some people need that apparently. But MAGA does that only selectively, whatever fits their agenda. It's the same with pseudo-science. Instead of trying to find ways to destroy your theory (and if that fails, the theory becomes more solid) they try to find ways to support their theory while neglecting the rest. This is nitpicking. That's not how it works.
Either you're a christian or you're not. You can't be half christian and use it as support for your actions, while your actions go against everything christianity stands for. Same goes for other religions of course. But there are always extremists who abuse it. Whether it's a religion, a system, whatever.
That’s not just a moral failing of judgementalism over actual morals, but a logical inconsistency
This guy disagreed with that tradition and tried to reset his church toward empathy, care, morality