Are you doing your part?
Are you doing your part?
A platform without ads or evil corpo ownership? Yeah, I'd scared too.
Are you doing your part?
A platform without ads or evil corpo ownership? Yeah, I'd scared too.
Lemmy doesnt have any proper discussions though. Its just memes. Personally i have to check reddit to actually get proper content to learn something from.
But still, Lemmy is at least not big tech!
There are great discussions here.
The problem is that we have too few users, so most topics you'd want to discuss aren't going to have existing thriving communities to chat with you. All of Lemmy put together is dwarfed by single reddit communities. for niche topics.
I'm not complaining, because the barriers to entry and lack of popular awareness keeps the user base here smarter and more interesting to talk to. But for the good of humanity I do think we need open tech like this to get widespread adoption, and it's going to take a long time. Reddit had almost two decades' head start.
And looking at a timeline, at this point in Reddit's history a few years in, the most popular subs with the early adopters were politics, programming, abe science. Sounds familiar, lol.
I saw bluesky take off and get millions of users right away. Appearently they have 38 million users now.
I guess advertising works... :p
It's sobering to consider how tiny Lemmy is. Both the Linus Tech Tips forum and the Crackberry forum are bigger and more active than all of Lemmy together.
Back in the day, even something niche as the Blitzbasic forum was bigger than Lemmy is now.
It's probably a good thing too, since both performance and in the way moderation needs to be done on Lemmy is so inefficient that it's right now already at the point where instances are getting closed down because they can't handle the workload and cost.
Honestly I like the conversations here, it reminds me a lot of the old internet.
FLAMEWAR
There's no lack of people willing to have discourse. No one is asking the questions.
People go to Reddit with hard questions (an other things) they want to crowdsource
People don't come to Lemmy with it, but other than not knowing which tech forum to ask it in, there's no reason they can't.
plus niche populated community for every possible topic
What sort of discussion are you seeking? I'm spending most of my time in the comments, droppin truth bombs on dey heads.
There are serious discusions, you just have to find them. Mostly news and technology articles, but there could be more.
The thing is it's super hard to start a niche community due to a fundamental issue with federation. Which instance do you start the community in, and how do people find it?
With reddit you just needed /r/[obscurehobby]. In lemmy you need to check all the instances, and you may find a different versions of the community, but all of them are dead with like 2 posts from 8 months ago because they never got the critical mass needed to catch on because the community was split.
Not true! you can get into arguments with random people about Marxism AND Linux!
that's what .ml stands for, right?
...and Star Trek.
You can even meow at a transfem :3
I don't think there's anywhere online where Marxists with arguments can't find you
You can also ah... uh... well....
I don't agree. Do you mean that you require us to do it or are you just not engaged in it?
I agree with the criticism of the content, especially since we solved a lot of these problems on reddit years ago, but as I’ve said on here before, we need a critical mass in order to achieve the kind of platform we’re looking to replicate. If lemmy keeps growing, it might come. Acculturation might not be possible though.
But Lemmy isn't growing. In fact, it's declining: https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats&days=1000
(When looking at these stats, remember that the post and comment counts are all-time comments/posts that are available at that specific day on the platform. In June 2024 there were more total comments than now, and in November 2024 there were more posts than there are now.
And all numbers are including the NSFW instance.
Be the change you wanna see. They set this up to be as user driven as possible. You can start communities, discussions, all of it. I started a Zombie community to have somewhere to discuss my take on season one of Fear the Walking Dead. Not much engagement yet but ya gotta start somewhere. It'll never take off if everyone who isn't permabanned keeps slipping off to reddit.
One thing I find satisfying is noticing how much more intelligent people are here than on reddit. It speaks volumes regarding the types of people who get permabanned from [insert any scathing adjectives of your choice] Reddit.
You can't be the change when the change is "we need more people"
There is discussion but the userbase's interests arent super wide so at the moment its techy and politicsy. Which is fine at least we arent following reddit which started out with racists, atheiests and child porn.
I've recently been checking out reddit to see discussion on a few topics not covered here, MMA and beyond all reason. I'm shocked by how low quality the comments are. I can open a 900 comment thread and not see a single comment that discusses the thread topic or discusses anything.
Honestly, that's not accidental. Reddit's a hot mess right now..
Once the IPO dropped last year, the algorithm started steering users to the least productive, most rage-bait inducing content. I was on many art-related subs and within 6 months, my feed pivoted to the political feeds.. MurderedByWords, LeopardsAteMyFace and others. The AppleHelp and VintageGaming and VintageApple where I had the best, most in-depth conversations all but vanished from my home page feed.
Oddly enough subs like anime_titties (which was non-US based global-only news with the sub's title used to keep the 50-cent Army from seeing it as the Great Firewall doesn't like anime_titties) also went down my feed list. Then mystery subs with really rage-inducing content like NewsHub which was lots of middle-east and Gaza related stuff appeared - and I hadn't ever visited that sub.. stuff that I han't even heard of showed up.
NGL, I fell right into it. It's slick, that's for sure.
Eventually the rage-bait posts got me.. I had started to get snarkier and snarkier and the mod-bots bumped me yesterday - within a minute - of making a metaphorically mean post. I spent the evening on old reddit getting at the unarchived content I'd posted and manually deleted it. Then managed to get to the delete account page and left. 14 years. Oh well.
The AI they're using isn't as well trained as they think, (hence the Reddit stock tanking in the past 2 weeks) and of course Steven MIller (the real POTUS right now) is looking to go after the mainstream social media sites.
It's getting a bit schizophrenic, what with the fear of the Trump Administration meddling on one hand and the algorithm on the other driving engagement by highlighting the EXACT strident content that makes it a target.
Oooooffffff. Fun times ahead.
Atheists are way less likely to create child porn than a catholic priest.
Don't make me pull out citations and evidence based data in this thread. I'll do it.
Which is fine at least we arent following reddit which started out with racists, atheiests and child porn.
What are you on about? There's tons of atheists still on reddit now. They don't spread child porn.
We're growing slowly but at least we are growing.
Agreed.
I don't think anyone that believes different was on early Reddit.
This site is just way too diffuse and has too few real people actively participating. It is also missing some very basic things that would accelerate engagement. Right now, your profile doesnt tally your upvotes. This should be a pretty simple fix and would promote visibility into who the top contributors are and the perceived quality of their upvotes.
Organized events would also keep momentum going. I remember back when reddit had AMAs that were actually interesting and fun instead of thinly veiled opportunities to plug a recent project while talking to someone's PR manager.
The aesthetic could also use a revamp. Nothing tailored to smartphone usage (blech), but maybe something that fills the screen by default, and improves readability? Comment sections are less easy to follow than on pre-IPO reddit. Native hoverzoom would also be nice. Is there anywhere to actually have an exchange with the people running Lemmy?
no carma is a deliberate feature
makes the comments more of a sensible people talking, less of a standup show.
You will find that there are reasons behind all of this. For one thing Lemmy is developed using Rust, which even experienced C++ programmers do not enjoy using, and for another there's tankies and only slightly less relevant, the amount of time that the developers spend moderating their tankie instance leaves little time to actually make changes to the software. Requests go unmet for YEARS, while other requests actively move backwards in functionality, if by forwards you mean democratic principles and backwards is towards greater levels of authoritarian control and less freedom by the end users.
Seriously, as others are saying, try PieFed. It releases new features practically every other week, and has a way better interface. You can even help by designing themes or your own custom CSS. And you can still access the entire Threadiverse, exactly as you can with Lemmy, except with better control (more functional, e.g. more fine-grained) such as the Topic/Feeds that are user customizable and shareable.
Personally I'm really glad that we don't have karma farming on Lemmy. It creates a lot of content for reddit, but it's mostly regurgitated low quality filler.
The aesthetic could also use a revamp. Nothing tailored to smartphone usage
There are apps and other frontends to choose for the websited. There is also https://piefed.social/
You might try piefed? It's a fediverse platform so still links/syncs etc with lemmy and everywhere else but the UI is nice and I think it does a lot of the stuff you mention (except for the ama style stuff.) I followed PugJesus here (and am using Piefed right now) and exported all my feeds etc so the switch was relatively painless.
Feel free to reach out if you have any questions etc. I probably won't be able to help but uhhh, I'll commiserate?
The aesthetic could also use a revamp. Nothing tailored to smartphone usage (blech), but maybe something that fills the screen by default, and improves readability?
I don't get this. old.reddit, whilst functional is dated. People use it because they're used to it - but I wouldn't characterise it as an amazing design.
new.reddit is appalling. Piefed and Lemmy are by no means perfect. No site is. I think people really overstate the necessity of having an amazing aesthetic or user-interface.
All the pro of Reddit and 100% Big-Tech-free... (just 15% Tanky).
Fun fact, I got banned from reddit the other day for saying something sarcastic. So I did the appeal thing, but all I said was "Fuck you, you fucking gaggle of cave brained cunts." And... they reversed the ban. So I guess, they dont even bother reading whatever shit you write in the appeal, they just look at the comment and uphold or rescind the bot ban. Pricks.
The real tragedy is that nobody read that masterpiece of an insult.
I'm surprised they even looked. I've never cared about getting subreddit banned but was always careful to avoid a sitewide ban. Not one of my appeals was ever upheld.
It happened?
That's incredible! May reddit become a husk filled with moms from Facebook.
AITA? I called the cops on my neighbour because her tan was too dark after she came back from visiting her mom in {literally any country south of the States}
Cindy didn't come home until 3 pm and then they had an argument! This morning I saw they got a new car in the driveway and Fred wasn't there!
why? where do you think they would all migrate to?
Time to open r/notlemmy
get totallynotlemmy ready while you are at it
Ewww... then you'd have to use Reddit, gross! 🤮
Reddit seems to be in purge mode so that the AI doesn't develop too many problematic leftist opinions. I was looking back to an old post critizing CS Lewis and the comments were absolutely nuked since my last visit.
Does it have to try hard? Didn't leftist remove themselves from a lot of places and purge their own comments?
Didn’t leftist remove themselves from a lot of places and purge their own comments?
There's definitely been an Exodus since 2020. But prior to that, it was a long running guerrilla war of leftists fighting to find footholds in the system and evade bans, while Reddit Corporate implemented increasingly draconian purges.
Less of a problem since 2022, so they pivoted to going after anyone solidly progressive. Then anyone left-liberal. Now anyone who isn't an outright MAGAt.
We're curious. What's wrong with CS Lewis? If you want to say.
He just legitmizes religion via decorated logical fallacies. The go-to intellectual for religious people.
Fucking bunker boy couldn't take it anymore that there is something slightly better.
Looks like Elon Musk was allowed access to the control room. Steve Huffman swoons over fascists.
SPEZ is in love with Musk, he allowed musk on 2 occaisions to trigger 2 massive purges(which got us to lemmy)
I do enjoy that Lemmy has been going so strong, it's been a very long while since I've heard this.
Just wish MelbourneTrains was active over here :(
I've looked over the fence. Very sad people aren't posting here! And there's many posts a day there!
Be the change you want.
Wait. Why did it get banned though?
right like the actual reason is obvious but what's the "official" / stated reason?
I assume they aren't even bothering anymore. Redditors have proven they'll put up with anything.
Too many beans.
In r/RedditAlternatives they explain that the mod, while still an active account (reportedly posting a lot in r/Lebanon), basically has left r/Lemmy unmoderated. (You can find more details about what happened by visiting r/Lemmy using old reddit, it would seem) So it makes sense actually.
The fact is, anyone interested in Lemmy isn't going to be talking about it to Redditors on Reddit in a sub dedicated solely to Lemmy... anymore.
The Threadiverse won that battle, as much as it can, and now development continues forward with PieFed that is even more highly received and recommended by Redditors (Reddit hates tankies far more than we do here). Thus there is no more need for a r/Lemmy. 🎉🥳
Boring answer: a sub having no mods is a typical reason why a sub gets banned.
That's not the answer. It states specifically when a sub is banned for having no mods. The message says it was banned for violating rules.
I'm guessing they found some trumped up reason to get rid of it.
It’s about damage control.
What a coincidence
I can never block reddit. My go-to workflow for buying any product is usually:
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This is why I never deleted my reddit accounts after I migrated -- I just couldn't throw away all of the hard written insightful comments I'd made there over ~15 years, and knew that an AI (and by extension future me) might find it beneficial.
(I'm not against AI, I'm against what capitalism is doing with AI)
There is always safe reddit or one of its instances that Libredirect can automatically, well, redirect you to
Genuinely curious, theoretically how valuable would a once and done service install of a private open source machine learning model on your local network that can do that skimming functionality be for you? A private box thats setup and just works? Is that even something people would want?
I’m not an anti AI zealot either, but frankly humans can skim search results and “link dive” way better than current LLMs can, if they’re familiar with the web.
Sometimes I use GLM 4.6's deep research mode with a link to go off as a supplement (I’d recommend that over Claude; it’s great! And open weights!), but 90% of the time just poking through Google/DDG with a filter to block SEO/AI spam yields better reviews. We can just parse more links and make better snap “credibility” judgements than LLMs can.
mine is r/nursing. there's just not a significant enough presence of any healthcare workers let alone nurses specifically for me to properly commiserate with. Every once in a while I get into a mood to post some memes or otherwise engage but I get a few likes and maybe one comment at most and wind up giving up after a few days.
I don't think they actually delete any of that stuff when you delete your account, though.
Is that neonazi subreddit that uses baby speak to subvert the admins still around?
Fren world?
I guess? I only heard about it long after I quit reddit. It's banned now and it may have been banned even before I quit for all I know. Someone here mentioned it a few weeks ago and that's the only way I knew it ever existed.
Here I am! Ready to overthrow Reddit!
You can't access it if not on the app.
The old "old.reddit.com" trick still works. It also works for other nsfw communities.
I do. I mention Lemmy whenever I reddit
I’m fairly certain linking Lemmy, even once, yields a shadow ban.
I cant even make a new Reddit account for anything, even from a relatively new IP after moving.
I don't think so. I see people on r/fediverse linking it.
Mmm, I don't like that, as now I have no idea why I'm shadowbanned.
And by that, I don't mean "I don't know why I was banned for all my outrageous spammy comments." I literally only posted wholesome, inoffensive, thought out stuff in 2 subs: a cartoon fandom and a self hosting community.
Shadowbans are illegal in the EU. They are technically legal but require the user to be notified of it, which doesn't make it a "shadowban" anymore.
Yeah, they've been ringing the ban hammer quite hard lately.
I love lemmy, but I still miss my niche communities.
They're super easy to start here
Reddit tracks things like the hardware associated with an account so you'd need a new IP and new phone/computer and email adress.
I happened to move. And in theory, Cromite's anti-fingerprinting should hide that, but it's possible I accessed it with the wrong browser some time...
Listen, I respect the meme, but I'm not sure I want to say I'm on Team Space Fascist.
If it makes you feel better, not enough people who saw that movie recognize that the protagonists are the bad guys. So, it sort of comes out in the wash?
It's complicated by the fact that while the film is satirical, the book is not. And some critics criticized the skill by which the satire was made "Some critics, such as Roger Ebert and Owen Gleiberman, recognized the satire,[139][140][141] but often found that this commentary was indistinguishable from the promotion of the fascist utopia it was satirizing." (Wikipedia)
The movie doesn’t give you enough info. It’s just entertainment. All you know is Earth is being attacked by bugs and there’s sort of a desperation to beat them. The “draft” for citizenship is really the only indicator something is off about society.
I bet they'd allow /r/mlemy
How long would it take for them to notice I wonder?
m'lemy
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I'm here aren't I
I noticed something was weird when Lemmy wasn’t showing in the res-dashboard.
Like I get the meme, but maybe rethink it? It’s also giving
Star Ship Troopers is basically American Fascists In Space. The movie is tongue in cheek. (Though in the book, the author is quite serious).
So scenes from the movie are going to give a Nazi vibe, but isn't about supporting Nazis.
Welcome to 2025 where the platform that promotes nazi rhetoric are the victims.
Name a platform that doesn't have people promoting nazi rhetoric
Yes, we are the baddies, from Reddit 's pov anyway. We will burn down their corporate greed and glass towers! And we shall so it from points that nice desk chair!
Yes but "the fashion"
Why?