Great conversation starter for the holidays
Great conversation starter for the holidays
Great conversation starter for the holidays
If the story is to be believed, Jesus was conceived via parthenogenesis (aka immaculate conception aka unfertilized egg). This means Jesus had only X chromosomes and yet presented as male. Jesus was definitely somewhere on the line of intersex, transgender, non-binary, et. al.
This is funny and makes me smile
He had a Holy Father who was into rape.
Yeah, no way an omnipotent God could do anything about the lack of Y chromosomes. He can create a new life in the womb of a virgin woman, but put a Y in the kid? Nope, His hands are tied, apparently.
Come on, lol.
The point is that when we look at what this God supposedly created, they're clearly enthusiastic about all kinds of wild spectrum of sexuality.
On days when I entertain the possibility of an infallible text, I'm not so sure I got the exact right version that I'm ready to deny someone else's lived experience. I would have to be incredibly sure to be willing to gaslight someone else.
On more frequent days when I don't subscribe to an infallible text, I find it pretty clear that God created and adores all kinds of wild sexuality, and their message to humanity suffered badly under some seriously bigoted editors.
My wife is a geneticist and we discovered she has an inactive y chromosome, so she is xxy, but a woman, and had babies.
All she needed was one gene SRY and she would be an odd looking male and likely infertile
I think they mean if the story that it was a virgin birth is real, not the story of God, because that for sure isn't. Parthenogenesis is a real thing, though very rare in humans. It allows for virgin births. If the story is to believed that it was a virgin birth, then this is what it was. I don't believe that story, but it is theoretically possible. I think it's much more likely she slept with someone else and got pregnant. It wouldn't be the first or last time a woman did that and said she was still a virgin, and it was a miracle.
If conservative Christians cared what the Bible said, I’m sure they would be very upset!
Christians Read the Bible Challenge (they never do)
As living proof to the contrary, I wouldn't say never. :p
But we sure are a rarity, I'll give you that! (And admittedly, I could stand to be more thorough.)
Nothing infuriates me more than cherry-picking things out of context to support heinous and inhumane ideas, the way they do. The Americhristian cult is one of evil's most potent weapons right now...
Are you trying to say God isn't a man? Preposterous! Next thing you're going to claim Jesus wasn't blond and blue eyed!
next you'll be trying to convince me the 12 apostles wasn't his gay harem. preposterous!
Nowhere in the Holy Bible is it implied God is anything other than a dude. It's always father this and king that when referring to God.
Unless you mean Joseph is non-binary? In which case, again, no. He's just a cuckold who didn't ever consummate his marriage to Mary, and they both died as virgins. Which is honestly the most unbelievable part of the whole story.
Man, imagine being cucked by the actual GOD himself, like, the holy father?!
I'm honestly surprised that all the incel NEETs haven't formed a religion around that, I mean come on! At least that would be sociologically interesting. But no, we just get that Andrew Taint fellow instead.
IIRC, the virgin Mary stuff is mostly Catholic sanctification stuff. They wanted to make her "pure" so they said she was a virgin.
God is three entities: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. That sounds like an extension of the nonbinarism of Two Spirit to me.
Yahweh was always a dude and even had a wife before these new age cultists wrote her out of the story. Typical.
If you read a modern English version of the Bible, you have three entities in one which all are all consistently identified as masculine. Trying to treat God as non-binary with regard to modern English translations is more mental gymnastics than arguing why Kris Dreemurr isn't non-binary.
Given this is all fiction, it's safe to say that death of the author is in play here, namely that 99.99% of the modern Christians who'd get offended at non-binary people existing would also not think of God as non-binary even after pondering on it, because their culture and holy book categorically treat God as masculine.
"... died as virgins."
Holy shit, one of us?
I hate to be the "umm actually guy🤓", but in the bible God is described as both man and woman. God is described as a being beyond gender as God is a spirit.
The most promiment ones describe God as father, but he's also often described as mother and attributed female traits to them.
But as I said that's none of my business.
often described as a mother [in the Bible]
Definitely going to need a source for that one. Isaiah 66:13 is a one-off similie to mothers comforting their children, but I don't think you'd then turn around, read Psalm 42:1, and think that David is an otherkin and that God identifies as waterself.
I recall (but am not up to finding at this hour) one spot in the OT where someone is talking about God feeding mankind with the milk from his breast. And I think he “birthed” ice and snow in the book of Job?
But in this case, the Holy Spirit is the one that “came on Mary.”
God the father and God the son are masculine, but God the spirit is without gender.
Also, Jesus had brothers in the story, and they don’t seem to be supernatural beings, so I think it was consummated eventually.
Is it possible for a concept of binary gender to exist in a species which has only ever had one member?
species which has only ever had one member?
That is a fascinating approach. What does it eat? Where does it live? What are its habits? I strongly suspect Jane Goodall is on the case, but I don't expect to hear back from her anytime soon...
Jesus had siblings. There is even a record of one, John, being executed by being thrown from a high place.
If I remember correctly, there are older pieces of the Bible that come from a time where Jahve was only one of a duality of Gods, male god Jahve and a female god that later got incorporated into Jahve.
Shady reference that just partially overlaps
Not so sure about any of that. Sounds pretty non-binary to me.
I'm sorry, does the holy spirit have a gender? Because god is also the holy spirit and Jesus. So while the "Father" part may be a man, and I think it's probably correctly translated as such. I don't think there's any assumption of such for the holy spirit.
And he make out with Judas. Always surrounded himself with poor hard working people.
Not a definite disagreement on the the non binary part but overwhelmingly, the God of the bible is male presenting including having a penis
Man, it's always fun listening to scholars make vague and circular arguments like you see in that video. So many times there's an interpretation that's taken as fact, and bolstered by other parts that both support and rely on the initial supposition to be true to be true themselves, or could have been referring to the initial supposition but now used to support it.
Was Adam's penis created circumcized? Of course, because he's made in gods image and God has a circumcized penis. How do we know God has a penis? There are euphemisms in semitic languages that use the same words to refer to penises, so clearly that's what they meant. No, it doesn't say it for sure, but it has to be true! There's no way the men writing the mythos would anthropomorphize god and give it masculine characteristics while writing a text that was extremely patriarchal, as was the society at the time.
Yeah, well most (if not, all) religion is male-dominated, so it's natural to think God is a man. That's a pretty unhealthy point of view, especially considering that the entire world is run by men, which means egos running wild, one-upmanship on the reg, violence ad nauseum, not to mention followers oppressing anyone that doesn't fit the mold. That's not religion; that's dominator culture. Knocking your head on the floor is just going to give you brain damage.
One of his fathers was also his son
Dude had a mom and an adopted father but retditard write shit like that.
So he's not son of god then?
Why he couldn't ? Was talking about his earth life, that s why I said an adoptive father
Bethlehem is in Palestine. Jesus was a Palestinian.