Marjorie Taylor Greene open to healthcare deal with Democrats amid shutdown
Marjorie Taylor Greene open to healthcare deal with Democrats amid shutdown
Yea right.
Hi, foreigner here, can any Americans explain why the f MTG's opinions seem to get a disproportionate amount of coverage even when they're fairly bland ones like this? As far as I can tell she's not a member of the cabinet or in any kind of leadership role within the party, or have I missed something?
Is it really just as simple as the press loves to give disproportionate airtime and column inches to far-right demagogues, even when it's the Guardian?
We had a genre of television show in the US called "Professional Wrestling" which underwent a number of name-changes and variations over the years like "World Wrestling Federation." and other titles and was all mostly controlled by one media company.
It was not a real professional sport of any kind, but it always pretended it was real. It featured scripted characters who became more and more sensational and outlandish fighting in pre-determined, choreographed "fights."
It was just a form of story-telling escapism and fantasy for people who didn't read books. Because it always maintained it was "real" despite all evidence to the contrary, some segment of people got so wrapped up in the stories about heroes and villains that they fiercely defended the idea that it was real, despite featuring characters who did magic and the like, and not only resisted attempts to tell them it's fake, they got mad at people trying to tell them it's fake, because they felt like someone was trying to take away their fun. This was basically Lord of The Rings as an ongoing story for illiterate teenagers.
Marjorie Taylor Greene is a Professional Wrestling character. She is an antagonist whom people who don't read love to hate or hate to love. Despite being an obvious "antagonist character" enough people wanted to believe in her that they got her elected to office. This is because broadly, people everywhere want narratives and storylines more than they want material outcomes.
Most conservative politics has gone this direction. It can be argued that the Democrat party here, the "opposition party" is in on this act to a degree, or maybe entirely in on it.
It should also be noted that Donald Trump was deeply involved in Wrestling media and learned how kayfabe works many years ago.
Well right now it's news because... Well, her opinions are reasonable and sometimes even well thought out which, you know, for MTG is news worthy next her usual mode is "Karen on crack cocaine spouting conspiracy theories"
the press loves to give disproportionate airtime and column inches to far-right demagogues
Bingo.
Now you basically understand how we got here.
Yeah I suspected it might be the case, I was just hoping I was wrong.
She’s famous for being dumb and extreme, and she was an early Trump diehard. That’s pretty much it.
She has a record of making statements that bear a profound stupidity that attracts attention. She is the originator of the "jewish space laser" meme. She is also on a weird redemption arc (it wont work) but she seems to be more reasonable and is acting more professionally since Trump took office.
TRUMP HAS BEEN ignoring her since he got elected, she probably expected a cabinet seat, more publicity,,,etc. Shes on a vendetta right now, and the gop really have pushed her out of thier backdoor deals.
Just because she's a provocateur and gets a lot of attention because of it. It's also breaking ranks so it will get press anyway.
Speaking as one, we Progressives & Leftists need to ditch this purity-level mentality - it’s self-defeating.
Is MTG an absolute shit-goblin? 100%! But can she be useful in restoring ACA funding, and releasing the Epstein files? Also, 100%!
This is in part how the right has managed to shift the Overton window so far towards their side since the 2000’s. It’s about damned time we co-opt such successful tactics in order to bring some sanity back.
There’s no strategy even needed. A vote is a vote. Who cares who votes?
She's an attention removed seeking relevance. She will never willingly help Democrats. That's as obvious as the sun rising tomorrow.
e: interesting censorship. lol
Sure. If you're delusional in thinking that the American government will ever operate again as it once did.
Liberals still trying to reach across the aisle as we stare a dictator and fascism in the face. So ready to work with a racist grifter that will say anything to keep her career alive. But decades of "how will we afford that?" or "you have to be realistic and compromise with the people that want to murder immigrants"
That ship has sailed mate. The legislative body has become exactly at Republicans wanted it to be. Useless. And if you haven't realized that you are not "the left". You're the liberal that can't come to terms with a reality the left has been warning you about for over 8 years.
I swear, you ML users really do give Lemmy a bad name.
I didn’t state anywhere to reach across the aisle, did I - you just made up your own strawman to get angry and argue against.
However, I did say if someone from the other side - even a gremlin like MTG - supports your existing position and they are the one reaching across the aisle, only a petulant, short-sighted fool would leave them hanging.
But you do you, an stay mad I guess.
Jog my memory a little. But didn't she heckle Biden when he said Trump would take away Obamacare?
That was when the only people supposed to be at risk were brown people. Now it's her family on the chopping block. Totally different!
She's not very smart, she probably believed he wouldn't try to
The enemy of my enemy is... still a hateful, toxic harpy. But we can temporarily ally ourselves with her to fight the more dangerous and urgent threat Trump represents.
It’s not an alliance. It’s just voting. I don’t understand why people are talking like this.
Of all people I never expected her to go against the grain.
Really? Because she's gone counter to Trump / MAGA on the Iranian Strikes, the Epstein Files, and referred to the situation in Gaza as "Genocide". She's not a good person but she does occasionally hop off the Trump train.
She's a grifter. Nothing more. She has no actual opinions beyond what will keep her relevant.
Why do people fall for shit like this from the right?
I imagine one of her stipulations would be to ban all trans healthcare.
Was absolutely lovely (/s) to have a conversation with my doctor today about what my options would be if they do that. Government so small that it fits in my doctors office. I’ve been on HRT since Obama was in office.
Ive been on hrt since 2016, so same. I've been stocking up on my estrogen (also switching to injections and lowering my spiro dose, which the higher dose turned out to be needless since my lower dose keeps my T down super low) so that I can at least have that for a year or more. Then there's DIY. Such lovely conversations to have about losing care because the government doesn't want us to exist.
Gavin Newson liked this.
Won’t be a deal breaker for the Dems.
Conspiracy theory: if she continues like this in a few weeks she gets sniped by some extremist and becomes a martyr
Why? Dems have less than 50 votes and need 60. It's not like she's the tie breaker or anything. Plus she's already talked extensively about the Epstein files and how they need to be released even if Trump is in them. Idk why dumb ass conspiracy theories like this are all over Lemmy.
What conspiracy theory? She can vote in the house, she can't vote in the Senate. Although I don't believe there is anything on the Democrats budget bill that couldn't in theory pass reconciliation. So they could try to get support from Republicans and get that passed with 51 votes, but it won't happen. (MTG once again, couldn't vote as she's not in the Senate).. could vote for that reconciliation bill to pass the house though
the greater upper echlon of the gop, wants her primaried, she definitely doesnt want to lose her seat. trump constantly ignoring, probably advised to because she is too toxic for trumps presidency, much like loomer and boebart is. plus she and gaetz already used her ousting card to get rid of kevin.
Is MTG really a good person but can't read? No...No she's still a cunt.
It's cause her own immediate family's premiums are going to go up.
Tomorrow if these insurance companies gave members of Congress 100% free insurance, say goodbye to the crumbs the plebs get today.
...either broken clocks, or she's grown a conscience..
Weird to be rooting for MTG. I think she's just standing up for her principles and while those are usually somewhat unhinged, they happen to be aligned with the wider populace today. She's still got a chance to fuck us over, but right now it's a great example of the 'The Worst Person you know just made a great point' meme.
No. She has relatives (possibly her children?) who stand to be affected by the ending of the ACA tax cuts.
Nope completely selfish as usual. Her kids medical insurance would be affected
Probably an awareness that as the shutdown goes on and more people learn what it's about, more people will side with Democrats.
That honestly seems like too much foresight for her.
...it'e like everybody wants to not make decisions, but the decisions the people voted to make them is wrong....WTF!...
trump is likely going to die in office (FUCK YES) and all the vultures are circling to try and take over his Legacy because even the US Military is not sufficiently strong to make people like couch fucker. And mtg is dumb enough to think that can be her. Someone who "reaches across the table" to fight the evil entrenched government elites and blah blah blah.
I think she wants a long political career and she’s betting on MAGA failing. She still wants to remain on the right wing, but she’s trying to distance herself sooner than later.
There is enough room to spray paint could shoulda woulda from here to Brighton Beach & back. All upon her 4 or 5head. I reckon it depends with optimal lighting conditions, shadows, time of day, etc. L
Sooooooo... healthcare subsidies will be restored, all of the other bullshit stays? Is that how this is going to go down?
You'll be lucky to get the subsidies. More likely the Dems cave to pay gov employees and Healthcare costs double. Republicans will just say it's Dems fault and MAGA will believe it. They believe anything that comes from their team.
I never, in a million years, thought MTG would be a voice of reason.
I mean yeah she's a terrible person but she's already said that the Gaza situation is Genocide, came out against the air strikes on Iran, and has pushed to release the Epstein files so this is at least the 4th time this year she's gone counter to Trump / MAGA.
Maybe she started some new meds?
Maybe her constituents have melted her phone board?
Maybe she stopped gulping down the red-pill laced koolaid. And has opted for a nice rosé-pilled koolaid instead.
A broken clock is still right twice a day.
Doesn't mean the clock shouldn't be replaced. But it's a step.
Um, well, does it matter?
Did the money dry up, Magic the Gathering?
This is the same lady who called for a national divorce a few weeks ago, right?
Don't forget Jewish space lasers. In any case, if her vote helps restore some sanity to government I welcome it. I still think she's a garbage person, but whatever it takes to get the votes.