Innovation in Japan: McDonald's installs phone cleaning devices. Kills 99.9% of germs within 30 seconds while customers wash their hands - VIDEO
Innovation in Japan: McDonald's installs phone cleaning devices. Kills 99.9% of germs within 30 seconds while customers wash their hands - VIDEO
Innovation in Japan: McDonald's installs phone cleaning devices. Kills 99.9% of germs within 30 seconds while customers wash their hands.
McDonald’s installs phone cleaning devices.
The systems operate on the basis of ultraviolet technology.
These systems, powered by ultraviolet technology, destroy up to 99.9% of germs within 30 seconds while customers wash their hands.
So im no tech expert but a couple issues i see off the bat:
- relying on a mechanism to pull in and spit out your phone seems ripe for a failure where the phone gets jammed/caught/sterliser breaks mid-operation and your phone is stuck. Maybe instead have a shelf that you put you phone on and then a cover just swings/drops over it but you can physically just lift the cover up to remove the phone.
- entry slot is in the surface of the bench, directly next to the sink, where any overflow or splashing will have water drop directly down into steriliser and phone.
- having a device in a public place (with no cameras, because bathroom) is a perfect place for someone malicious to affix a NFC (or similar tech) scanner to read data from/send data to your phone.
33IT guy here, the NFC thing isn't really a concern (NFC doesn't work that way) or for that matter, any other wireless technology, as it'll need to authenticate with your phone somehow. If you can somehow simply scan data from a phone without any form of authentication, that would be a massive security hole - something that would be patched by the vendors real quick. Also, if something like that were possible then the TSA/FBI wouldn't have any issues pulling data from locked phones. Think of all the times you've had to put your phone thru the xray machines at the airports. Also see the case of FBI vs Apple for instance.
The other issues you've mentioned are valid though. Heck my Galaxy Fold won't even fit in that slot.
11Thanks, that makes a lot of sense. I just thought that i can use contactless pay with my phone if its unlocked just by tapping the eftpos machine but i suppose people wouldnt be putting their phones in there unlocked generally.
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That's really cool. I already foresee Americans intentionally breaking them and finding ways for people to get their phones stuck in there to be assholes and for internet likes.
22Some Australian cities installed usb charging ports on their bus fleets. They were filled with chewing gum within a week
28Qi chargers are the way to go imo. Make it out of some nice hard plastic and much more difficult to vandalize.
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So many bathrooms in Japan don't even have hand soap or toilet paper. I can't possibly imagine this taking off.
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I didn't have this issue at all when I visited. Although maybe you're talking more rural than touristy places..
9No, I lived in Japan and have visited all over. It's more an issue in men's bathrooms than in women's to not have soap, based on my conversations. In women's bathrooms, it's common to not have toilet paper, and people carry around tissues. This is more of a city thing than a rural thing. In the cities, people pass out tissue packets with advertisements in them (as a job) and people carry those around and use them in the restrooms.
Edit: It might be the case that places which have more tourists don't have this problem as much. That's still not my experience, however.
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That's weird, there's a place 10 minutes away from me (W Europe) that has them installed in the bathrooms.
It's just a slot in which you put your phone. You wait for it to beep and you take it out again. Ideally while you're washing your hands.
8Because it’s in Japan, I’d probably use it. If this was in New York, I probably wouldn’t be in that bathroom in the first place.
8How well is that actually going to work? UVC sterilization usually takes much longer than 30 seconds.
7WOTA claims 99.9% sterilization via UV-C. Does Japan have false advertising laws? I genuinely don’t see how it can be that fast, but like, it would be dumb to make difficult-to-believe claims if you could be sued for it.
Anyway, mostly unrelated, I used one of these there and I didn’t care if it was that effective. Wasn’t gonna be holding my phone for that span, so any sterilization is nice.
5Just because you don't see how it can be that fast doesn't mean you should immediately jump to false advertising. Think of it like cooking chicken to a safe temperature, you can do it sous vide at a lower temperature and still get safe chicken it'll just take 8 hours or you can throw it in an incinerator at a thousand degrees and have it sterilized in a few seconds.
Sterilized is more than just the amount of time it's also the amount of exposure, an extremely strong UV light needs significantly less time than a weaker one
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It’s dose dependent not just time dependent. LED uv-c emitters can pump a huge dose onto a surface from a short distance such as this device does.
This recent study showed viral inactivation using such shorter time frames.
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I'll "clean" your device! Just let me handle it for a few seconds...have you installed my app yet? It gives me...you, roo...hmmm cool powers and access to the cleaning system interface...yeah that's right, I need access to the cleaning interface.
6I've seen these being marketed as the big new thing for ages. I think they had some on Shark Tank. Covid probably helped them along.
5It's cool, I want to know how it works! But I don't trust it. All it takes is an accidental moment of suction to destroy a microphone or moisture seal. Or maybe someone accidentally dropped a bobby pin or something in there that could damage the charging port? That's all it would take to basically ruin my phone...
I also don't trust the employees to care or know how to safely remove a phone if a motor died or the building lost power... But I realize I'm paranoid! 🤷♂️
3It's a bit narrow with lots of moving parts. Maybe a clamshell setup would be easier and more usable with different phone sizes / accessories?
2Isn't this just some holding mechanism with some UV light? Why would it be stuck in there?
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No thanks, I'd rather bring my own knowing what people would stick in there and there's the risk of it stealing your phone if it malfunctions
3and there’s the risk of it stealing your phone if it malfunctions
You wouldn’t just go to the staff and ask them to open it up for you? lol.
1That depends on how the phone cleaning things are designed
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Not sticking my phone in there.
2But but.... It was made for me! Th-this is my hole!
7Who are you that is so wise in the ways of not sticking things into anonymous slots?
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Ooooooh iPhone 4s long time no see
1Seems like a solution in search of a problem.
-1For many, if not most Japanese people, bacteria existing is a problem in need of a solution. Even when COVID restrictions lifted, people were more than happy to keep their masks on for months. I’m not living there anymore, but most shops had hand sanitizers installed at their entrance, and I know a lot of people don’t want those to ever go away.
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Does McDonalds have a device for eating my ass? They should work on that next.
-4A bidet that utilizes heated water will likely give a somewhat similar sensation to a wet tongue. Whether or not any McDonald's out there have those installed I don't know
1Sounds like a no then. Either they eat my ass or not
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