The climate crisis is solvable, but human rights must trump profits
The climate crisis is solvable, but human rights must trump profits
Huge planetary problems were fixed in the past, yielding lessons for the current climate crisis — yet this time a solution is justice.
It's dumber than that. We could do it if we cared about long term profits rather than next-quarter profits.
64Yes but that would have tax implications.
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Good luck with that. Have you ever met humans?
38I'm not worried about humans, I'm worried about the rich
17And yet, we managed to mostly abolish slavery and child labour in most countries.
It's not going to be easy, but it can be done.
10Not to be defeatist, but...
We didn't abolish slavery... we just replaced it with wage slavery. Sure, the workers are free to leave - and try to survive with no other job opportunities and no money. In fact, for the employers, this is actually preferable to real slavery, because there are lower upfront costs for your slaves, they don't try to run away or rebel, you don't have to pay for their healthcare or long term care, and in many places government tax dollars will subsidize their living expenses. Employers have it WAY better with wage slaves than real slaves.
Child labour is still alive and well in many countries, and even there the ball is rolling on rolling THAT back in the US at least.
I admire your positivity, but I'll believe it when I see it.
35Have we? Or do we just call it something else and make sure not to look?
6Slavery still exist in USA. 13th. In the south they still have kids working legally on farms.
2Did we, when?
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Humans are wonderful. Not always good, not always reasonable, but wonderful.
We are rich, nuanced, vibrant beings. A small portion of us are defectors but by and large we are community focused and willing to give when we feel we are not being taken advantage of.
Unless you think all your friends, yourself, and your family are garbage it is inconsistent to assume a random sampling of humans would not display the same prosocial traits you find in them.
The one thing we are incapable of doing though is handling power.
1All these claims are simply taking a look at a different angle.
It's like saying "cars pollute" and you reply with "but have you seen the beautiful colours they come in and how much faster than mules they are"
You are not wrong but neither are the people claiming humans are, as a herd, fairly dumb and incredibly selfish
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The title reads: "we can solve the climate crisis, but we won't"
31So we're doomed then
31"trump" in this context has lost all of its former meaning.
15The trump card lost its meaning the moment it got the orange man in jail
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The whole world: We need cheap EVs for the regular people.
China: I got you fam.
The world: Tarifs.
11It's a bit more complicated than that. You don't want total reliance from one country (especially one as questionable as China) over a whole big ass sector of your economic. And China being super cheap will cause a monopoly of their EVs. That's bad.
17A monopoly is not inherently bad. A monopoly removes the incentive for pricing pressure, yes, but that requires consolidation in a single company, not a single country. China's only been able to sell EVs so cheap because every company that couldn't drive prices this low got blown the fuck out of the market. That's competition, not a monopoly. By extension, if EV prices go back up, those competitors can pretty easily restart given the billions of venture funding swimming around in China.
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But we actually need a sensibly planned public transport and Zoning.
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The solution requires a new ideological paradigm, but transitioning into the right paradigm would be extremely difficult and it would likely take a very long time.
I think the US is already in the process of transitioning to a new paradigm, away from neoliberalism, which was the dominant paradigm over the past half century or so, to something else. However, I'm not sure we are transitioning into the "right" paradigm. I think the paradigm we are transitioning into is more protectionist than neoliberalism. We are moving away from globalization and towards something more like the cold war era, where the world was divided along ideological lines into a "first world" and a "second world." I expect the new paradigm we are shifting into to be more antagonistic toward "unfriendly" nations. I wouldn't be surprised if this were to lead to some kind of major conflict.
9Of course we're to that: the US is doing very little to slow climate change at all, is anything it is accelerating it. The natural result of this will not be food insecurity in the USA: it will be famine in South and Central America. Climate migration will see tens of millions of immigrants at our borders.
And the government has 0 intention of helping them. It military will directly cause a mass casualty event at the border before the turn of the century.
4What are you talking about? Nobody's moving away from neoliberalism. The right perhaps, but whenever the left also moves to fill in that void, it doesn't really change much.
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Best I can do is a token effort as long as it doesn't upset the shareholders.
9Too bad I associate the word trump these day with stupid.
8Soooo.... Unsolvable....
... Riiiiight.
7Well, we tried
4We pretend
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don't look up
6The hard part morally is whether future human rights trump present ones. But we can't even get to those issues since they're all trumped by maximum short term profits all the time.
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2End of the world party it is
1Good luck with that. Have you ever met a human?
1Headline is a good demonstration of why it's so difficult to set up a keyword filter to get rid of the childishly vapid American politics from your feed lol
-2Let's see:
✅ Climate issues
✅ World News
✅ Human RightsWhat's exclusively American about this...?
2If you filter "trump" from your feed, you miss this
I miss so many articles about masculine musky aftershaves
1Something is going to hurt Trump's profits?
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