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Mildly Infuriating @lemmy.world

Viking_Hippie @lemmy.world

11mo ago

What fresh fuckery is this? 🤦

That's a rhetorical question, in case there's any doubt. I know the exact what and why of their bullshit.

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Another attempt at blocking ad blockers
- we need an adblockers blockers blocker
  
  uBlock
  
  we need an adblockers blockers blocker
  no, what is needed is an app that helps track who benefits from thr apps that annly you most:
  ownership of companies pushing annoying ads
  management of companies pushing annoying ads
  find the connection between those and the products you maybe want to buy in shops or in internet before you buy, then instead of buying, let the app send the seller a message that you did not buy because of that connection.
  do this in numbers with lots of people and see what happens to the advertising jungle
  the point is NOT buying because of advertising AND let them know it, so they can learn to improve themselves.
  they wanted your data? let them have it the way you want them to.
  same with any platform. ask the creator of your choice to also publish using patreon and you'll become a member then, getting the content free of ads. better more directly pay who does the actual work, not all the big tech harvesting all the benefit inbetween.
  so what maybe is needed here could be a free or even self-hostable platform that also allows payed subscriptions.

I think they are clamping down and trying to force people to watch yt in Google's desired way. They have managed to stop most Piped instances via ip banning and also requesting users to "sign in to confirm you are not a robot". I wish their was a proper alternative at this point. It would be great if something like Peertube took off.
- I use SmartTube on my TV and NewPipe on my phone. Except for links from Lemmy.
  If this bullshit is/becomes a thing for every YouTube video, I'm gonna have to do a lot of annoying copying and pasting or just eschew pretty much all videos on Lemmy 🤬
  Agreed on Peertube btw.
  
  i got NewPipe set as default, so links from Lemmy open there instead of the YT app
  
  I wonder could someone write an app that watches the clipboard for YouTube URLs and auto launches the desired app?
  
  1000 for SmartTube!! I finally side-loaded uYou for my iphone and last time I used my android tablet I was able to update reVanced but thats been forever ago.
- Might be cool to start advocating for some YouTube creators to also post their stuff on federated video hosting/sharing instances. Peertube is pretty cool. I mean shit, if any of you are thinking of being creators, and you make a video, put it both on YouTube and some Peertube instance.
  Edit: replaced a word with "instance" and added word "instance"
  
  Unfortunately creators need to be paid and YouTube ad & subscription money is a big part of that for many of them.
  By posting to elsewhere that won't pay them, they would be reducing their income
  
  There are maybe a dozen non nuts on Odyssey. They're just drown out by the fascists.
  Problem is:
  Peertube doesn't pay
  You have to pay for the backup/storage of your videos.
  PT will have massive scaling pains.
  Yt spends a lot of that advertising money hosting non profitable videos for free.
  
  Yes! I couldn't agree more on all that if I tried 🫶

Whenever I have issues with YouTube refusing to do things it used to do, I stop using it for a while and eventually they put it back. If you're not willing to do that, I find that the NewPipe app is better than the native YouTube app. But be warned that occasionally Google makes changes that break New Pipe and you need to wait a couple days for the devs to catch up to the change.
- Yeah, I've used NewPipe for ages, but YouTube links from Lemmy open in my browser, so I'm gonna have to copy paste into it, which is going to be all kinds of annoying 😡
  
  Try turning on the desktop version of the site once the link is open in the browser.
  
  Try Better Open With. Maybe you can set it to open YT links on NewPipe. Or Revanced as another option.
  
  On my phone this can be set by going to settings, default apps, opening links, wait unusually long for the list to load, scroll to NewPipe, choose the links you want it to handle.

Yt won't let you use your web browser anymore? Why
- So you'll download their spyware.
  
  Or a client?
- Same reason Facebook won't let you look at your messages through the website on mobile. (Unless you request the desktop site).

Oh look, youtube is doing the same bullshit as TikTok.
- Guess Congress are going to have to ban YouTube unless Google sells it, then 🤷
  
  They're already talking about breaking up Google/Alphabet

Everyone here is like "use this" "use that" which is great but the immediate solution is
switch to desktop mode
You're welcome
- I tried that, didn't work. NewPipe does.

Greyjay has been working fine for me ¯(ツ)_/¯
- I've really enjoyed greyjay. I don't yet have creators I follow outside of YouTube, but I love the concept.
  
  unfortunately a lot of the bigger alternatives are just filled with right wing nutters. although hopefully apps like grayjay will make it easier for less political minded people find a home on other platforms

ReVanced, Grayjay, Newpipe
- I loved Vanced, but never got ReVanced to work or tried GrayJay.
  NewPipe works like a charm now that I have it set as the default app for all YouTube links, though 😁
  
  You have to download the YouTube APK version ReVanced specifies in the compile step You can find the Apk on APKpure.
  ReVanced is a hassle though.
  
  +1 for NewPipe
  There's a fork with built in sponsorblock as well
- +1 for Greyjay
  http://greyjay.app/

I've gone out of my way to make a cracked .IPA of YouTube (basic adocker + sponserblock + Downloader) for my phone to not have to deal with there stuff and it's held out so far. Just hope it keeps doing so
- Is there a website or resource that describes this in more detail? First I've ever heard of a cracked .IPA
  
  You must not be a beer drinker, then. I love cracking open an IPA after a long day.
  
  it's a version of Uyou that you can find on GitHub. Tells you how, though you have to do a bit of the compiling yourself

Haha oh shit, they’re killing mobile browser view???
- Yup!
- I seriously doubt it. At most this is probably an A/B-test or some content-specific restrictions.

Piped and Invidious
- okay but what do we do about backing up the massive library of content that only exists on youtube? how do we back that shit up, so when they break those, it is't all lost forever?
  
  You
  Try
  Distinguishing
  Literal
  Pizza
- Yewtu.be

Install ReVanced

It could be that it's playing in a codec that your mobile browser doesn't support like av1 or something. Not sure though, is this happening with every video?
- Surely it would fall back to mp4? Are some videos AV1/VP9 only?
  
  I dont know if youtube has h264 support

What browser are you using?
Firefox + uBlock Origin is still working for me right now.
Edit: hmm, could be a regional thing too. I'm in the US.
- Nightly with uBO, so that's not it..
  
  have you tried desktop mode? It may just be looking at the useragent

Use Smarttube instead on android tv and stbs Smarttube
For android phones, tablets: Tubular
In browser ublock blocks youtube ads, also invidious instances.
- I'm already using SmartTube on my tv and Tubular's parent app NewPipe on my phone and now I finally have it set up so all links to YouTube addresses on my phone open in NewPipe so that I don't get this bullshit again 😁

Advertising for alternatives and/or unofficial apps
- Yup! I was already using NewPipe for finding YouTube videos myself, but this is what spurred me on to find out how to also open every YouTube link i click in NewPipe 😁

Get the YouTube Revanced app to play this*

ReVanced

Time to switch to Invidious.
- Nah, I did one better and set NewPipe to open all YouTube links
  
  This is all I get for the last week or so, no matter which video I try to open. I was about to delete the app for that. How is yours still working?
  
  hell yea
- http://greyjay.app/

Well that might just completely kill YouTube on mobile for me. The only way to watch on my phone without their ads.
- Or you could use NewPipe
- I am slowly switching back to podcasts, it is only question of time when yt quality goes bellow usability, they are dancing around that thin line like with search.
- This is why I jailbreaked my iPhone

Fuxk u peasant... That's what

I tried last night to view a video I saw someone on SpaceHey had in their main page and couldn't do it on my phone or desktop browser. Phone wasn't in any way doing anything outside of the standard ublock origin on Mull, which has never had issues if I ever needed an "emergency" yt lookup. Desktop browser Firefox based with libredirect wasn't working since I've been having issues connecting and using Invidious and Piped instances for a while.
Ended up having to switch to Freetube on my desktop to view the video and it was worth it. The errors I kept getting where to sign in to confirm I'm not a bot.
This was the video (assuming the instance is still up in the future)
- Mobile browser worked for me, I used m.youtube.com instead of invidious
- Embedded Video worked for me in mobile browser.
  Fennec with ublock und Noscript.

Install GreyJay
http://greyjay.app/

Finally a post that isn't about politics
- Don't worry, it'll let up after ~~November 4th~~, ~~December 1st~~, ~~January 6th~~, ~~January 20th~~, Second Appomattox.

UserAgent -> google chrome desktoo
- Install desktoo

This is why I've always been confused about people telling me to use an ad-blocker. How tf does that help with the app?
I have NewPipe now so it's not a problem.
- "this ad blocker doesn't help with solving my not-at-ad issue! what good is it?!"
  
  I mean the ads on the app are just as bad

Use Odysee ffs.
- I was curious so I ~~googled~~ searched on duckduckgo for it
  attempting to solve some of these problems with blockchain technology.
  Welcome to whiteboard crypto, the #1 Youtube channel for crypto education
- If Odysee wasn't filled with so much racist, misinformed, crypto-slinging bullshit, maybe normal people would actually use it. Right now, the best solution is joining someone's patreon.
  
  If Odysee wasn't filled with so much racist, misinformed, crypto-slinging bullshit
  Deal with it. Otherwise you'll take every single monopolistic abuse from Google, and you'll just complain and keep using it
- And watch what exactly?
- I'm not a Nazi
  
  Would using Odysee turn you into one?

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