#StopKillingGames Update: Germany becomes 4th county to hit threshold
#StopKillingGames Update: Germany becomes 4th county to hit threshold
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This is your somewhat regularly scheduled Stop Killing Games update.
Stop Killing Games is an European Citizens Initiative aiming to keep games playable even after their developers and publishers have stopped supporting it.
Germany has hit the threshold sometime yesterday evening. France has also started to catch up. They are still below 50% but there growth over the last couple of days has been the biggest. Netherlands and Denmark are still in the low 90s.
The milestone comes on the eve of this years Gamescom in Cologne, Germany which is set to kick off today. SKG is not going to have an official presence there. (I've checked with the organisers) But if you are attending and want to help spread the word I'm happy to share official marketing material, either in the form of flyers or the files for flyers, so you can print your own. They come in both German and English. If you want some, send me a DM.
Relevant links:
Love the momentum of this initiative, hopefully it reaches success!
FYI, there's also the Tax the rich initiative available, which is ending in October this year.
93Personally i'm a bit sad that video games get more traction than fixing wealth inequalities.
49I guess one seems more achievable.
22This is the first time I even see that initiative and I'm in several leftist spaces. Grassroots advocacy is tough man
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It’s simple, I see a stop killing games post and I upvote.
46You know, I'm something of a "I'm doing my part" guy myself.
23I was really sure I deleted my reddit account
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I can't sign but still will upvote babyyyy. Can't thank the EU enough for all their strict rules. Even brought type-c to iPhone.
44You might not be able to sign this one, but depending on where in the world you live you might still be able to help. The official website has guides for a lot of countries. And if you live somewhere where you truly can't help (cough USA cough), then thank you never the less
17Same, our great American freedom™️ means that
we have very reasonable career politicians working on fixing this nonsense alreadywe don’t spend enough money on lobbyists in order to matter enough to then have any iota of actual representation in the formation of our government’s laws and policies.13
Thanks for the update! I didn’t know this initiative was an actual thing for the EU. I signed both this and the Tax The Rich initiative mentioned by someone else in the comments. Hope it helps!
23Pushed my lazy ass to do the same. For anyone still hesitating, it truly does only take a minute and it couldn't be easier!
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This is going faster than I expected tbh. Gotta check whether the vote history is available so I can make some "fancy" graphs about the rate of votes/day.
18My dumbass, who doesn’t play games at all, thought it was about doing away with games that involved violence/murder. Aye I’m such a dweeb.
12To be fair to you: "killing games" and "killer games" do look and sound extremely similar. And "killer games" was the term people who wanted to ban violent games in the 90s and 2000s used.
11Killer game could also describe a really good game with no killing.
6Yeah, and I’m of the age can remember a long phase when folks were really trying to limit such games as a serious issue.
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Signed! I recall reading a guide thinking "I'll sign later" - I just clicked Sign the initiative here, accepted their terms, signed in with my country's eID, clicked OK, done.
Less than a minute of work! Surprisingly smooth!
11Wunderbar! Jetzt lasst uns auf ein Millionen gehen!
8BRD! BRD! BRD!
5It sucks that my country will never cath up to this standard.
4Which country, if I may ask?
I'm Italian and I'm also disappointed in my country, but on the other hand we have an old population and our threshold is so high.
4The US so it's basically impossible for any kind of change
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Big shout-out to Timm with two M
3Pirate Software, a former Blizzard and Amazon Games dev, did a YouTube video on this recently with some fair criticisms of the initiative. It’s worth a watch.
2Thor is a grifter who just doesn't want his live service investments impacted. (Rivals of Aether) https://medium.com/illumination-gaming/ludwig-thor-team-up-to-launch-offbrand-games-42ee230d7cb1
Thor shows the opposite sentiment when talking with Tim Bender (Manor Lords) https://streamable.com/339l26 .
The development credit to his name is one undertale clone that has been in development for 7~ years, and QA for blizzard. He should NOT be treated as an authority on this.
19It seems to me that his problem with it boils down to the odd case of someone trying to ruin an online game to make the developer abandon it and then host it themselves to make money from it. This would only be a problem with free or very cheap online games because to have bots to disrupt the game you would have to buy an account for each of these bots. That would become very expensive very quickly.
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1 million
Super hard for a country like Ireland, a population of 6 million
-2I think you missunderstand how this works. Not every country has to reach 1 million. Together all countries need to reach the goal. In addition to that 7 countries also need to pass a threshold. This threshold is scaled to the population of the country in question. So in Ireland fewer people need to sign than in Germany. But this is a separate requirement from the 1 million goal
32According to the page, the threshold for Ireland is 9,165. So far 5,819 have signed.
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would it be ethical to use a VPN to support even though I'm not living in the EU region?
edit: please, downvote someone who is genuinely trying to help your cause, I'm sure that'll help a ton. I'm sure I'll help spread the word now as you've shown me how you treat your supporters. Great people, great platform, great cause, I'm sure.
-8- This is about citizenship not about residence. So if you have European citizenship (even dual citizenship) you can sign from outside the EU without a VPN necessary
- All signatures are checked by the EU after the fact. So if you aren't eligible then signing won't help. Your signature is going to get invalidated
27Ah thanks, I thought it's like change.org or something that verify email and IP address only. Again, not an EU citizen so I don't know any of this stuff.
Edit: aaaannnnddd I'm getting downvoted to hell because I'm trying to help. Typical Lemmy experience.
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Don't worry. Downvotes don't really mean anything. They just sort your comment further down for some people and maybe make it start collapsed.
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Because gaming like any other industry needs regulation and politics instead of educating people to think and make conscious decisions. I just can't wait for governments start taking care of gaming. I can't say that the goal isn't noble but it will result with taxes and billion dollars funds that will double the prices of games and regulate market so only corporate will be able to afford to publish and make games. Good Luck. I'm to old for this shit.
-23Billions? Try more like trillions! And just you wait until you see the Torture Matrix that comes with every government policy get added as DLC to the crew!
7You look like a person who knows exactly how EU legislation works, how much we need lawyers and gaming industry experts from biggest gaming companies telling us how gaming should look like because law won't write by itself.
Funny how biggest problem in gaming is people spending money on product that stopped working after 10 years from release.
Let's bring government standards from other industries into gaming so people could complain more.
Let's ruin gaming together ! Teach me because I know nothing about life.
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To make an online game, you have to write server software. So just give it to people! Its not that hard.
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This is so dumb. Not the petition itself, but the way you're going about it.
You actively antagonise people who are annoyed to hell and back at having to go look for the reason behind the petition. You even had one guy wondering if it was about banning violent games.
All because you're too lazy to put it in the description. Way to shoot your petition in the foot. One line about "keeping games playable" without an explanation of the root cause won't make people join your petition 🙄🙄🙄.
Not only that, but this could now be related to actual spam given how often you're reposting it. E#: just looked, you made eight posts in two weeks. What in the world are you expecting to change by repeating the same thing over and over?
Instead of getting the impact you were going for (rightfully, since you explained jack shit), you're now spamming to get quantity over quality. Idiotic.
Addition of a few sources to show you how much you fucked up in your presentation of the petition:
-268 posts in 2 weeks? That's nothing 🤣 People here make 8 posts in a day.
Also what's up with all the aggression? Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed? Stub your toe against something?
6You have a significant amount of free time, don't you?
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