Omnipresent AI cameras will ensure good behavior, says Larry Ellison
Omnipresent AI cameras will ensure good behavior, says Larry Ellison
"We’re going to have supervision," says billionaire Oracle co-founder Ellison.
You want a dystopia? Because that's how you get a dystopia.
22They do, one with them at the top
6The fascists think they die happy.
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We need them pointed at every tech CEO constantly.
9Omnipresent super-soakers full of paint will ensure they wont.
13One of those spray paint cans on a stick they use to paint lines on the ground
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Theyre already there
8Only if I can use AI and cameras to follow police around, map them, and use pattern recognition to make sure they behave as well.
18Nope. It is only for the peons. Dissidents will have ANY behavior be seen as bad and the fascists will be identified specifically to train the AI to ignore them or automatically rule them out as suspects. Blame their victims and not the perps.
BTW, people like Zuckerberg fucking HATE people like you and me. He considered the people who trusted him with their emails (when he was in university and coming up with the idea of Facebook) to be absolute idiots and even more so for trusting him with that information. He lives his life in a way that insures that we know as little about him as possible. He lives in a compound that is impossible to view via satellite imagery AND he has the actual house he lives in surrounded by dummy buildings specifically so that people cannot spy on his with telescopes. He is obsessed with privacy and probably has never been seen on CCTV in years.
5Also I expect there should be more surveillance around powerful people like Larry Ellison, right?
The more powerful, the more important is to ensure good behavior, and the more public / peer-reviewed the AI model and its logs should be to avoid tampering/laundering.
5They consider themselves to be gods and so far better than you and me that any behavior on their part is none of your business (even if it directly affected you and your entire family and community) but if you so much have a 10 minute variation in your sleep they want to know and probably film you when sleeping without any justification and they will tell you to go to hell if you tell them to stop.
2I'm sure they are up for that to prove their innocence!
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Can't wait for a hallucinating AI to report me for assault because I hugged someone in public.
91Maybe they should require everyone to be happy all the time. I'm just imagining everyone going around with freaky smiles.
16You mean like this
https://eji.org/issues/wrongful-convictions/
Explain to us the infallibility of human perception please. Since so many of you seem to hold it in such high regard.
-4These pattern recognition bots just allow the justice system to be stupid faster.
10The root cause of this issue that they identify, is 100% the kind of AI that they'll build for this situation.
Old mate wants to use it to keep people on their best behaviour. The kind of subjective wording that whatever he doesn't like, is the exact reason people lie in court.
Power to that thought process through systemising it, legitimising it, is exactly part of the problem.
What's that American who said lies about the eating cats then justifying it by saying "I'd lie if it got the American public to wake up". Let me get the quote..
If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that’s what I’m going to do.
Yep. It's not infallible, it's intentional. Intent goes into the creation of systems and implementations. These are the kind of people that want these systems. They're justified in their own minds.
So to close the loop you linked that article and it's point was:
More than half of wrongful convictions can be traced to witnesses who lied
Don't give them reason for more ways to do so. Don't give them legitimacy. That's deterministic. It's intent. It's not failed if it worked. Your opinion on a system which is failed or fallible is not the same as the Oracle hocho who wants to be God.
They're not sharing your values, morals, ethics or compassion.
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Billionaire wants a totalitarian state, who’s surprised?
48Well how else is he going to fortify his ridiculous amount of wealth from the unwashed masses?
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I mean, he's a billionaire. I guess there's big money on propping up totalitarian regimes.
59Let's start by putting up cameras in all his houses.
28Maybe that will ensure he behaves all the time ☺️
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What if we just get the AI cameras to “hallucinate” our good behaviour?
9Why don't you volunteer to be the test case Larry?
8Just gonna tell tweakers those things are full of copper
42I saw a sign on each street light on a bike path in my town that said "these street lights use aluminium cabling because the copper was stolen".
Your plan will work.
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1984 was not a manual
9Welcome to China
4Will Ellison and government officials volunteer to be observed for next 5 years to prove software?
(No.)
35They will ensure a lot of smashed up AI cameras that's for sure
17While wearing a mask that'll fool AI on top of a ski mask beneath it.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panopticon
The panopticon is a design of institutional building with an inbuilt system of control, originated by the English philosopher and social theorist Jeremy Bentham in the 18th century. The concept is to allow all prisoners of an institution to be observed by a single corrections officer, without the inmates knowing whether or not they are being watched.
Although it is physically impossible for the single guard to observe all the inmates' cells at once, the fact that the inmates cannot know when they are being watched motivates them to act as though they are all being watched at all times. They are effectively compelled to self-regulation. The architecture consists of a rotunda with an inspection house at its centre. From the centre, the manager or staff are able to watch the inmates. Bentham conceived the basic plan as being equally applicable to hospitals, schools, sanatoriums, and asylums. He devoted most of his efforts to developing a design for a panopticon prison, so the term now usually refers to that.
23I suspect Bentham underestimated the nature of misanthropic behavior.
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When you can get ticketed for speeding while your car is on the back of a tow truck:
https://www.the-sun.com/motors/11008328/photo-towing-van-speeding-ticket-evidence/Or a red light traffic ticket when your car was stolen:
https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-red-light-ticket-camera-illinois-car-stolen-theft/11677595/And the police/courts won't help you because it's a problem from the private company running the cameras... I think we can see where some sort of AI backed camera network is headed.
A bandaid to fix this might be to setup an easy way for someone to dispute the charge. For every day that it takes the company to review the dispute, they would need to pay back the accused the same amount that they are charging them (with a minimum of paying them back twice the amount of the fine).
Even then, I'd rather cameras not be used in this way at all.
17Don’t try to anthropomorphize Larry Ellison.
12Oh for fucks sake can we please stop putting AI everywhere
7they put that shit into water bottles... water bottles! Like they have a water bottle that can be synched to your phone and it's % shown on screen and it changes color at set intervals to remind you to drink. Like for fucks sake dude!
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Maybe I'm an outlier, but omnipresent AI cameras would ensure bad behavior in my case.
12Like person of interest?
4Why do we even care what these tech-bro ass hats think? We already collectively know his vision apply only to "poor people".
12Because they have undue power over our lives.
17How about doing something instead of talking? https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/crimethinc-recipes-for-disaster
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we should test edge cases to ensure safety, let's shove one down this guys' throat
2Yeah but what is "good" behaviour?
2He proposed a shitty Art Park on Lanai, the island he bought the majority of, and wanted to set up surveillance to stop "vandals".
Worked on the plumbing for the fountains he wanted to building. Those surveillance measures never came to be, yet...
7Shitty billionaire has a shitty take. Shocker.
5Shitty billionaire
ah but you repeat yourself
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If he really believed that he wouldn’t live in a gated castle.
4AI camera VS. A .45 Magnum
Tune in next decade to find out who will win this epic battle.
Edit: Why does this guy look like Adam Sutler from V for Vendetta?
3Fuck Larry Ellison.
Now he's going for super-villainy against people who've never even heard of Oracle.
2During an investor Q&A, Ellison described a world where artificial intelligence systems would constantly monitor citizens through an extensive network of cameras and drones, stating this would ensure both police and citizens don't break the law.
I'm sure this also includes cameras following him and all board members too. Right?
2I’ll just base my conduct on Larry Ellison’s actions instead. As he is championing constant surveillance, he is surely the most virtuous of us all.
1If it results in innocent people in LA not getting fucking stabbed trying to ride the metro, it'll be good.
Otherwise this is just another fat government contract waiting for a tech bro to get their hands on.
-1The LA metro? Like, theres a passenger/commuter train in LA?
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