Vigilante Pedophile Hunter Killed While Confronting Teens
Vigilante Pedophile Hunter Killed While Confronting Teens
Robert Wayne Lee was known as Boopac Shakur on social media, where he often posed as a minor to catch alleged predators.
A Michigan vigilante who amassed thousands of social media followers with his unauthorized hunts for pedophiles was shot and killed in a confrontation with two teenagers, police said.
Robert Wayne Lee, 40, of Pontiac, was better known as Boopac Shakur online, where he would often pose as a 15-year-old girl to expose alleged predators.
Authorities say that Lee accused one of the teens at a local restaurant of being a pedophile and punched him—leading one of the boys to pull out a knife and the other to fire a gun. The suspects fled but were later arrested.
The Oakland County Sheriff’s Office noted Lee’s unsanctioned activities—and their uneven results—in a news release about his slaying.
“His one-man crusade has led to the arrest and criminal charges being filed against several men,” it said. “He has also mistakenly identified someone as a sexual predator who was not.”
Videos that Lee posted to Facebook showed him confronting the men he corresponded with while posing as a minor in the style of the show To Catch a Predator.
A GoFundMe to benefit his daughter said Lee “dedicated his life to protecting the innocence of our children from those with malicious intentions. Through his courageous efforts, he successfully exposed 132 predators who sought to harm our community's youth.”
However, in January, police confirmed just four arrests based on Lee’s videos, according to the Oakland Press. Police had asked Lee to stop his sting operations, but he persisted and even announced classes for others who wanted to follow suit.
Lee denied he was a vigilante. “I’m a concerned citizen,” he told the Press. “A vigilante is doing police work without a badge.”
“I’m just putting the fishing pole in the water and seeing who’s biting,” he added.
There is something so weird about this. I don't think these guys are trying to protect children, I think they are getting off on the roleplaying and using the 'hunting predators' thing as an excuse to justify it.
161And teens he confronted killed him? He typically posed as a 15 year old girl to catch people it says. I guess these teens are in the wrong if they're 18-19? Story just seems a little strange.
Confronting people by yourself is not something a level headed individual does. This guy was clearly getting off on some type of vigilante hero complex.
41Low hanging fruit. There's not that many actual pedophiles out there, and the ones that exist are usually pretty cautious (otherwise they'd have been caught already).
But technically an 18 year old wanting to have sex with a 16 year old...
I don't know anything about this guy, but the fact that he was accusing teenagers of being pedophiles suggests he was just trying to get fame and attention by capitalizing on the current "pedophiles everywhere" moral panic.
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See also the ammosexuals who fantasize on the daily about the day they get to "defend themselves" against a "home intruder"
The hero complex is IMO just the masking of sociopathic violent fantasies in self righteousness. "No no no, I'm not obsessed with being able to kill justifiably, I just REALLY hate pedos!"
10See also the ammosexuals who fantasize on the daily about the day they get to "defend themselves" against a "home intruder"
The hero complex is IMO just the masking of sociopathic violent fantasies in self righteousness. "No no no, I'm not obsessed with being able to kill justifiably, I just REALLY hate pedos!"
1I see your point, and agree with it. I'm sure a lot of it do it for the fame and it's not really about protecting the kids to them.
But, even if they're doing it for their own self-interest, they're still doing a good thing. You don't have to have good intentions to still promote positive change. I couldn't care less for the guilty people they find, good riddance, they don't belong in society.
That being said, if they falsely accuse people to try and keep growing their influence, then it becomes a problem
-17I dont think I fully understand the point you're trying to make.
Let's say hypothetically you're correct for a moment, which I don't personally believe that you are. Would it not be the best case scenario to have the people who have an impulse to hunt people, be hunting people who are pedophiles? So to your point I say, so what?
I think this was a commendable way to spend a life. I'm very thankful for people like this. Being touched by specific types of pain and suffering can lead people to either repeat the cycle that brought them harm, or then can seek to destroy it. This gentleman was likely in the latter group and I believe those people are the good ones.
-48Would it not be the best case scenario to have the people who have an impulse to hunt people, be hunting people who are pedophiles?
The problem with supporting vigilantism is that vigilantes are wrong a lot and there is no recourse or protection against that.
Cops themselves acknowledge this
"His one-man crusade has led to the arrest and criminal charges being filed against several men,” it said. “He has also mistakenly identified someone as a sexual predator who was not.”
"It's ok if it's people I don't like" is not the mindset of an emotionally mature human.
59Nah, if you want to help people who are SA victims volunteer at an NGO or become a detective. People like this actively harm investigations and I get the impression that most are just clout chasers.
27I'm saying I suspect this is a pedophile going online to fantasize with others about children having sex with adults, who then protects himself afterwards by exposing the person he was talking to while portraying himself as a hero.
It's like someone with a porn addiction publicly being anti-porn and supporting laws that ban porn as a way of coping.
I would honestly check this guys computers for CSAM.
It's also important to remember that the majority of child sexual abuse happens between relatives or close family friends with access to children, not random people on the internet. The best way to catch pedophiles remains early grade sexual education in schools, not amateur vigilante undercover sting operation for twitch views.
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While they managed to catch 4 people, out of a total of 132 people that doesn't sound very good, and might have even made it harder for the police to catch these people. One of them was found to be innocent, what if more of them were?
118I really don't understand the boner so many Americans seem to have for vigilantism
Just fix your goddamn police system - there's a reason why vigilantism is outlawed since it's too easy to misjudge or misidentify stuff and the consequences are horrible - let professionals do their job properly
101I think that's just it right there. Our police system is completely broken and for-profit. People want justice. So out of desperation they're seeking it themselves.
16Fixing the police is great but I don't think that's enough to reduce child rape.
Find the causes—childhood abuse / neglect, most likely—and aggressively address these social ills. Find more reliable ways to rehabilitate and use it for those convicted. Among other things.
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I went through a period where I binge watched a bunch of episodes of that show, but I read that it was difficult to convict some of the people they caught because adults posing as children to lure people into getting arrested is considered entrapment or something. Therefore, their method of catching them could be considered unlawful, leading to the case being thrown out.
11Actual police has better stats than this dude, and police is garbage
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Maybe punching a suspected pedophile is not the best way to bring them to justice?
87Maybe punching a suspected pedophile is not the best way to bring them to justice?
Especially when he has accused innocent people in the past.
35That was my first thought. I can only imagine he wasn't able to control his anger in the moment. I'm sure he saw himself as doing important work. It's sad that a child is going to grow up without a father now.
12It is the most direct way, though. The shortest route between two points is a straight line.
1How do you figure?
In what way will a punch prevent a child rapist from wrecking the lives of more children?
Will it somehow cause them to stop? Will it cause them to face charges for their crimes? Lead to therapy in hopes of reform?
I don't see how a punch is likely to do any of these things.
Anything resulting in their arrest and conviction? Great. Do that.
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he would often pose as a 15-year-old girl
Authorities say that Lee accused one of the teens at a local restaurant of being a pedophile
Let that sink in.
He accused a teen interested in an age-appropriate partner of being a pedophile. The age difference between the people that killed Lee, and the 'victim' Lee was pretending to be online is, at most, 4 years.
Fuck that dude. That kind of accusation wrecks lives.
61And as an adult man posing as a young girl, how can you possibly pose as specifically 15? Do you wear a sign with your age? I would bet he looked much older than 15. He probably looked older than these teens, because he was older than them. I don't understand how you can be called a pedophile by being attracted to an adult man in women's clothing unless he's broadcasting his fake age somehow.
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Idiot. Left a kid behind.
25Idiot seems unnecessarily harsh but his child is truly an innocent victim here
-18I don't know that it is unnecessarily harsh.
A guy with no training going around trying to catch pedophiles. He's not the only one doing it in the US, and it's almost always for clout.
People trying to be Mark Hanson and catch predators, except they don't have a team of people and actual police contacts to help them. And it's not because they're so concerned about possible victims. It's cuz they wanna play hero and put some shine on their name.
This dude managed to get himself killed and leave behind a dependent child. He kinda WAS being an idiot. I feel bad for the kid.
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Dude accuded aTEEN for being a pedo.
What?????
13Don't most states have Romeo and Juliet laws that specifically say a 19 year old wanting to date a 15 year old is acceptable? Maybe it's only a 3 year gap or something. IANAL.
13AFAIK if the relationship started BEFORE one of them turned 17? or 18? then they are protected. So a 16 y/o dating a 14 y/o would be protected if they are still together when they are 18 and 16. Something like that.
Before anyone asks there was a scene in the Mark Wahlberg transformer movie where a kid had the law lamentated in a card in his wallet so he could pull it out and explain to Mark that he is legally allowed to fuck his underage daughter.... so I had to look up wtf that was about.
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Why were they charged? Sounds like a pretty obvious case of self defense.
8If you have to use any kind of deadly force in self defense, it is always in your best interest to be the first one on the phone with 911. Police aren't known for their critical thinking, so the first story they get is most often they one they are going with until proven otherwise.
If one of the teens had called 911 and said some creepy guy catfished and physically assaulted them first, this story would probably read a lot differently.
Disclaimer: Not victim blaming. More of a PSA. And really one of the very very few times I would recommend calling the police.
8Probably a magnitude of force issue. If they didn't legitimately fear for their life, then deadly force in response would be a crime.
6Magnitude of force of a 40yo vs. a teen makes the self defense acceptable imo
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“He has also mistakenly identified someone as a sexual predator who was not.”
You can feel the shrug as the policeman makes this statement.
This guy is a product of American society. This type of entrapment is considered to be a legitimate tactic. A place where becoming a stooge diminishes your sentencing. Somewhere rich white people get a completely different version of justice to poor black people.
4Police had asked Lee to stop his sting operations
And replace them with what? What are the useless cops going to do?
Unless a business-owner is complaining, cops won't do shit. They don't care.
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