Over 200,000 subscribers flee 'Washington Post' after Bezos blocks Harris endorsement.

It would hurt this sociopath Bezos a lot more if people also canceled Amazon services en mass

Got a substitute?
No?
...
- Great argument. How about buy your shit from actual stores, whether online or brick and mortar. Believe it or not, we actually managed to get by for millennia without amazon
- Just not using Amazon? Somehow I’ve managed to survive without needing to buy anything off Amazon in over a decade. How badly do you need to buy random shit online that you can just shrug at the human rights violation that is Amazon?
- bhphotovideo has been very good to me
- Sure,
  Just live with things taking like 2-5 days instead of 1-2
- Yep, for just about everything you get on Amazon there are alternatives. You just go to the supplier that sells the thing you need instead. Amazon hasn't had real 2 day shipping in a long time. If you really need that "everything store" experience, Ebay, Target and Walmart all have decent online marketplaces but might as well use the smaller stores. What's keeping you on Amazon? It sure as hell isn't its search, and tons of sites offer free, fast shipping. I have to assume it's habit.
- I am confused by people’s shopping habits. How often are you buying online and what is it?
  Groceries and pharmacy are all local. Clothes are a local boutique (I don’t buy clothes more than one or twice a year and I like to try things on and buy quality items). Shoes are from a local redwing store that I’ve been wearing for over 8 years. Computer parts I do tend to buy online, but I’d never risk buying from Amazon. I typically buy from b&h, cdw, or directly from the manufacturer.
- What? There is no need for a substitute. The concept is insanity. Just stop being a consoomer ffs
- Don't most brick and mortar stores also have websites that deliver? Just think of what store might sell what you're lookng for and buy it from them or at least compare prices.
- …I stopped using Amazon at all about a year and a half ago. It’s not that fucking hard. Do you know how many places want to sell you shit?
  Literally all of them.
- Plenty of alternatives, if you're willing to look. Books? Try the library. Ebooks? Kobo. Audiobooks? Libro.fm Other products? Shop local (if you still can) otherwise, use Google to find another site that sells shit.
- Ebay
- For prime video, just pirate whatever is their "must watch" show or movie. For online shopping, just stop being a spoiled bitch who can't live with 2 day shipping. Google still works, something you want to buy -amazon.com
- Buy less stuff?
- Are there hundreds of alternatives to online shopping on Amazon?
  The same with logistics. Surely there are MANY delivery companies?
  What about Amazon would you miss?
- There are thousands of online stores, not to mention brick and mortar where you can buy everything you need.
  This question shows you're either a troll or a moron.
  Have you got a substitute for... A place to buy stuff? No not a single substitute? You really can't think of any vendor other than Amazon? Be better
- https://ground.news
  Get 40% off an annual subscription with Adam Conover's code factually, or go to ground.news/factually.
- Downvoters: "I hate you but you're right."

To anyone unsubscribing: Remember to subscribe somewhere else instead. If not you're just helping Bezos achieve his goal of the death of journalism.

@ProPublica@newsie.social is one good alternative.

As others have said, if you want to hurt Bezos, target Amazon.

This was the straw that finally got my wife to agree to let me cancel prime. I wanted to as soon as add were added to video. Sadly it auto renewed on the 10th of Oct :(
- This exact thing happened to me. I cancelled anyway and they refunded most of the subscription fee. Just do it. Wish i could have told them why I was cancelling.
404 media seems nice
The link's not working
- The link is for a Mastodon account:
  https://newsie.social/@ProPublica
My favorite news source is Democracy Now
Al Jazeera for me, bby
Most of the web runs on AWS good luck avoiding Amazon
- Just about a third anyhow. Remember the great fiasco where an engineer was turning off one server and mistakenly turned them alll off and Facebbok etc was down for 6 hours? Like a goddamn dream... a wonderful place.
Like setting fire to the Amazon and stuff?
- As a species we're clearly doing our very best

WaPo - "Democracy dies in darkness"

Bezos - "I can deliver darkness to everyone in America in 2 days or less"

"We endorse Democrats! REJOICE!!!"
"We want to stay neutral! BURN THEM ALIVE!"
Can't make this shit up...
- WaPo editors wanted to endorse Harris.
  Bezos, who is not an editor, forced them to remain neutral.
  That's a problem. People don't subscribe to WaPo because they want to read Bezos's thoughts.

I have a funny feeling Jeff doesn't own the paper for the money.

I think Elon mismanaged Twitter tremendously but a very clear "this is my toy and I'll break it if i want" message was sent and a very dangerous message it was. Gives me the same vibe. Bezos doesn't need to own it but he does and he'll do what he pleases.
- Eh. It seems mismanagment took off somewhere in 2014.
Wait until he rebrand it "y".
- Y would I buy from Y?

Something darkly funny to me is all the people who work there whose job it is to grow subscribers seeing their last three years of hard work flushed down the drain on the whims of the owner.

I'd love to sit in on performance reviews for Q4's end.

I’ve been there. It sucks sooooooooo much. Especially if you’ve made family sacrifices (missing events etc.) to travel to get those deals closed - just to see them just evaporate in a whim.
That’s why I got out of Tech Sales and into management.

I'll be doing that soon enough...
- Same just gotta do this last dog food order..

Finally got around to canceling my Prime membership. I've been relying on Amazon to get all the shit I can't buy in person, but I'll figure out some other way to get those.

You're probably out of luck. I've been trying to avoid amazon for two years but all the other options suck. I'm constantly chasing missing orders and returning items because they're just not as described.
Amazon revolutionised the customer experience and apparently nobody else has even bothered to try and mirror their formula.
- apparently nobody else has even bothered to try and mirror their formula.
  It isn't that no one has tried, but Amazon has several anticompetitive policies in place that make it virtually impossible for anyone to compete with them.
- That's simply not true anymore.
  We recently got straight-up scammed on Amazon by a third-party seller on Amazon, and they won't do jack about it. They said it's between us and the third party.
  I'm done with their bullshit. They're nothing but an expensive front page for alibaba drop-shippers these days.
- I've ordered 3-4 things from Amazon in my entire life. It's really not hard to ditch if you grew up in a time before Amazon. I'm 39, I can go to the store.
- Everything they sell is on eBay from private sellers and importers.
  You could say the reviews are a plus but some products are all propelled by bot reviews and Amazon featuring items anyway, so what good is it, really?
  I'm back to square 1 with the internet of looking up item reviews on small forum posts and word of mouth since Amazon has abandoned the one thing it had useful to me, peer-review.
- Probably a bad time to simp for Amazon lol just saying
- 4 years in and the only problem I’ve had is when a retailer uses FBA and Amazon ends up delivering it. It is not that hard, use eBay (avoid Amazon dropshippers by not buying things with free expedited shipping and free returns). I have not struggled whatsoever it just takes more time and is often cheaper. Especially with fewer impulse purchases.
- Yeah unfortunately I live in a major city and every other retailer has trash delivery that costs an arm and a leg. I tried buying a few items from a store in my province, and shipping the items was more than the cost of the items. Even hot topic, I ordered a couple of t-shirts and a jacket and they wanted $50 for shipping across the city to me
- Part of why they can absorb so many returns, unfortunately, is because of their sheer scale of business.
- I am every day thankful of mercadolibre here where I live, it's the absolute best, Amazon can't even come close
- Give Walmart.com a shot, you'll be shocked how much easier it is to use than Amazon actually.
  One evil billionaire for another, but the actual online experience is modern platform unlike Amazon which looks like it was made in 1998
- In the West. In China there are several amazing alternatives; they are like ten years ahead.
  Makes me so annoyed that we are stuck with this monopoly.
- Same here. I've conceited that I'm not gonna pay for prime and all other subscriptions but fuck me actually not using it in the UK is impossible, all the independent retailers are long gone and if they somehow exist they are just dog shit options through and through.

The number of cancellations continued to grow Monday afternoon.

200,000 so far

- They're already mortgaging their houses to buy Trump NFTs.

It looks like Trump owns Bezos.
- Race is on to be the worlds first Trillionaire. So many people to shit on to get that high score and only one person will help them get there.

Three of the top 10 viewed stories on the Post’s website Sunday were articles written by Post staffers outraged by Bezos’ decision. The top one was humor columnist Alexandra Petri’s piece, headlined, “It has fallen to me, the humor columnist, to endorse Harris for president.”

Bezos is scared of Trump.

This is the reason. In our fucked up country, Trump, a rapist convicted felon, has a legitimate chance of winning the presidency.
- Why is our country fucked up? Because you think we should be a one party system? The Left has been doing everything and anything to stop Trump from running for President. But that doesn't matter right? I mean, isn't that what it really comes down too? Every time I come on this site, it's about "get rid of the Republicans!!!" For what? So we all vote ONE way and have ONE belief? Isn't that was communism is?
Why do you think the billionaire bought Wapo? Like Bloomberg, as long as the left doesn't get into power, he's going to make money hand over fist.

AMAZON. FLEE AMAZON!!!

What do you predict Turnout being this year? 2020 was 65.9% of the VEP(Voting Eligable Population). The lowest in the internet era was 2012 at 58%. Average is 2004 and 2016 at 60.1 and 59.3 each, 2008 was the previous high at 61.1

That would be an interesting pool to join in.
It's a million Venn diagrams of a million different problems. It's hard to even guess what ones would be more significant.
You've got his impending jail time if he doesn't make it in. That's likely going to activate a bunch. You've got the incels and misogynists. I'd say you'd have a pretty decent percent of the most ardent Gaza supporters, and certainly some of them will go third party, But knowing that if Trump makes it in he will absolutely throw as much support as possible to netanyahu... They're in an absolutely miserable situation but I don't know that they would be in a hurry to make it worse.
Of course on the other side you've got Cheeto Jesus saying he's going to be dictator on day one, He's going to prosecute an imprison other people he's threatened donors. He's patronized Hitler's and Hitler's staff. He's pretty much insulted and activated everybody on the other side to be scared to fucking death that he's going to make it in. I have to think that all counts to activate us. I have to think that all the rambling and incoherent speech he's giving is feeling to activate them at least a little bit on the other side.
But the poles, their poles. I was behind a fuck nut yesterday with a Trump 2024 make liberals cry again bumper sticker. I've never wanted to get out of my car and scratch wahhhh snowflake on some dick heads tailgate so much
- It's also good to note 2008 being second highest was hard carried by Obama, McCain was not pulling record numbers. 2020 was both parties breaking their all time records(though proportionally they both fell a bit short of 2008 Obama). Personally I smell 2008 style numbers. Post-COVID means less people free that day and a bit less wall to wall election exposure, and while Harris is more charismatic than Biden she's not Obama(Obama wasn't even supposed to be picked in 2008, but he came in so hard and strong they gave him a shot and he mauled Hillary. Kamala wasn't fighting her way through a primary she was never supposed to win in a trial by fire like Obama).
  Also states have shifted in one way or another. Nevada was the bluest state in 2016 and 2020, only swing state to go blue both times, only one of the modern swing states Hillary held(albeit in 2016 Virginia and New Hampshire and New Mexico were considered Swing States too). This year it's looking to be a lot more red...hopefully...if it's still the bluest state that's game over already. Abortion doesn't sell well there, state is more male, and it's mostly older so the women there aren't super passionate. That and they got hit by COVID and Inflation really really badly and No Tax on Tips is popular. Meanwhile Wisconsin(traditionally the reddest of the rust belt) is being reigned in by Tim Walz to a degree and has been the bluest at several points while Michigan(the bluest state Trump won in 2016) is slipping a bit due to Arab voters.
  Calling it being around 2008 Levels, but not 2020 level.

Now triple it and do the same to Amazon.

I'm glad this happens in a world where newspapers endorse candidates, but I also don't get why newspapers are allowed to endorse candidates in the first place. I guess that is the least of our concerns when you look at media bias, but still....

Newspapers are allowed to endorse candidates because the first amendment protects free speech. While I may agree with you that endorsements and news media stumping for ANY candidate is problematic and reeks of propaganda, it is, for better or worse, protected by the constitution.
- Indeed, it's a shame that companies are considered people.
Think of it in terms of "out in the open". Fwiw most (all) media orgs have a bias and as such are more likely to endorse a certain candidate. That could be President, it could be mayor. Would you rather have that endorsement in the open or hidden in context?
- I'd rather have neutral, fact based reporting. That one party endorses “alternative facts” was a choice by that party. It doesn't mean that people more grounded in reality are biased.
  In other words: if you are an US-American news source that reports neutrally, the vast majority of your staff will be voting Democrats.
I mean when the choice is either facism or democracy, I'd assume being unbiased is a little hard. After all, the nazis did attack the press first to instill propaganda.
Because I don’t follow the ins and outs of local news or local politics. If the journalists following the school board controversies on a daily basis have a better opinion on who should be on the school board or county judge role, I will trust them.
Freedom of speech

wow, that is significant.

Good to hear

Wow. A huge number.

Ten percent in a couple days?

next start finding alternatives to Amazon

Yeah but what am I going to do for my next space flight? The options are down to Bezos, or Musk.
Why can't someone like Taylor Swift start a space exploration company?
- we will likely die before we need space flight so we might as well take Amazon down with us

Over 250k now

I'm a little surprised to be honest.

I stopped reading Washington post when they made everything paywall.

Don’t regret it at all, plenty of other better articles online.

- yep

i live in dc and would love to support local news but instead i bought a subscription to the onion after they endorced my candidate, joe biden.

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Silly. Bezos wants the newspaper to be neutral... god forbid right?

No. Bezos would profit from a trump presidency. Always follow the money.
forgot your /s, mate. Happens all the time.