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Mmmm bread.

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What's always astounding is how much a person has to actually know to be as stupid as Ben Shapiro (and Matt Walsh, and others). They have to study and learn in order to misuse the things that they've learned. It's impossible to be this wrong on accident.
- Ben Shapiro isn't stupid. He is talking to stupid people, because stupid people give him power by following him.
  Ben Shapiro is a conservative, which is to say he is a narcissist. He will say anything that benefits himself, and it is justified because he is Ben Shapiro, and Ben Shapiro believes Ben Shapiro is good. Therefore, if Ben Shapiro needs to lie, or obfuscate the truth, or speak to the emotions of his followers, he is righteous because it helps him win.
  He is not concerned with reality unless reality helps him win. Ben Shapiro sees himself as a Nascar driver, and the truth is a frog hopping across the track. He's in a mindset that does not even register dishonesty as it's farting out of the large hole in his face.
  He's talking to the people who will never see the replies calling him stupid. He's talking to the people who, like him, believe that they are the inherently righteous. They may or may not be stupid, but that doesn't matter to them at all. Ignorance isn't possible when you are good, because being good means you know and understand everything that a good person needs to know and understand. Anything more is elitist snobbery and deliberately confusing.
  
  His asshole must be jealous of the shit coming out of his mouth though.
  
  Ben Shapiro isn’t stupid. He is talking to stupid people, because stupid people give him power by following him.
  I would say he's cunning, but he's definitely not intelligent.
  
  No lies detected. I'm glad to see other people realizing that "Conservatism" and it's uglier cousins, Authoritarianism and Fascism, are emergent from mass scale narcissism.
  
  Also - I've read somewhere on the internet - that he, and this is not me saying this but the internet by the way, that he, Ben Sharpie, thinks about his sister a lot. It's just something I've read somewhere I believe.
  
  While there are other options than to become a conservative, conservatives are stupid.
  
  He's pretty damn stupid.
- Don't give them that much credit, all you need is a superficial understanding of something, done by skimming half a wikipedia page.
  
  No, this goes beyond ignorance. What that fucker is doing shows at least a fundamental understanding of the subject to deliberately arrive on the opposite side of reality.
  
  But you always have to skim the wrong half,it takes talent.
  
  I too have an approximate knowledge of many things.
  
  Nah, the guy isn't dumb, he just has zero integrity. He finds ways to reframe arguments to win arguments - that isn't easy, the dude knows his takes are garbage. Every once in a while the mask slips
  Someone like Jordan Peterson on the other hand? The dude believes what he's saying, his takes are also trash, but he's so dogmatic in his world view that he can't grasp anything outside them. He's not really that dumb either, he just has issues.
  If you want just straight up dumb, Trump is the epitome. He doesn't understand anything - he just has so much charisma it doesn't matter. Try reading his speeches - you might listen to them and think "wtf is he on about?", but without his delivery, it's just incoherent rambling
  For an example of an idiot who can sound smart, Elon musk comes to mind. He memorizes facts the way a child does about the specs of their model cars, but he can't apply any of that knowledge
- The difference between sophistry and philosophy.
  You become a philosopher to understand the world.
  You become a sophist to misuse your understanding of the world to profit off of others.

Ben Shapiro is an intellectual steamboat. A lot of hot air. Way to much effort. Stuck somewhere in the past.
"Whats next, libtards? Wireless phones? How can you charge a phone without a wire?"
- And guess what I found when I opened my phone up? That's right, wires. The thing is filled with wires.
  
  It's painful how accurate this parody is.
- The "Some more news" videos about him are a good watch.
  also that time he called a conservative UK tv host a lib because he didn't like being called out on air by him
  
  Doctor Mister Cody Johnston? The roasts they do on Behind the Bastards are great too. Especially reading Ben's books.

Yea it sucks the energy is only renewable until the sun explodes. Oh well, back to coal.
- Not enough mass to go supernova; the sun is expected to become a red dwarf.
  
  White dwarf
  Red dwarves are failed stars that never attained the mass necessary to become a full-on star. Jupiter actually isn’t far off from this status.
  On a related note, red dwarves will probably be some of the last sources of light in the universe, and live for trillions of years due to how slowly they burn fuel, so.. suck it, Shapiro?
  
  Fun, fun, fun.
  Sun, sun, sun.

Man... even being as generous as possible, it's still an incredibly stupid point. "Renewable" doesn't mean "infinite". If something can only be renewed a finite number of times, or even once, then it's still renewable.
- B-but you don't understand, why b-bother using renewable energy if you theoretically can't use it forever? We might as well just keep using fossil fuels since there is obviously an infinite supply of them and they totally don't harm the environment?
  Global warming? Oh that's just climate change, that's why I was sweating my ass off on Halloween, the southern US is just obviously becoming a jungle now instead of a swamp
  
  Let's just fucking use steam engines again
- The fact that energy stays energy doesn’t mean it’s useable energy. See: the heat death of the universe
  
  You trying to say heat is not usable as a source of energy? Cuz boy do I have news from you from about 15BC.

he's a living example of the dunning Kruger effect unchecked in every way.
- I honestly believe that he knows he is full of shit and arguing in bad faith, but he knows it keeps him in the money. He is entirely too clever to beleive everything he says.
  
  Iono, he's said some insanely stupid stuff that only embarrasses him and doesn't help him politically. Have you seen his writing before he became famous? Ridiculous stuff. I think he just has an unchecked ego hopelessly warped by his sycophant backers.
  Basically exactly what the previous commenter said, dunning-kruger effect over and over and over.

Ah yes... Conservation of Energy... which means... that we never lose energy....
I... is he trying to prove that there... is... renewable resources or is he just that dumb? Oh yeah its that.
- I think he's trying to say, "energy cannot be created or destroyed, therefore all energy is renewable". Implying gas and oil are just as "renewable" as wind and solar.
  Conservatives back gas and oil purely for personal financial incentives, and like to project that renewable energy is also only for financial incentives and not the good of the planet.
  Which should only work on high school kids. In 9th grade I didn't understand why air conditioners required power instead of generating power. Heat is energy, right? Why don't they just take the energy out of the air and convert it to electrical energy?
  I'm very confident Ben knows how the second law of thermodynamics works, and he's taking advantage of a populace that was put through a failed education system.
  
  I always thought of "renewable" as just used to distinguish forms of power generation that relied on processes that already occur, unlike oil and gas that exist but need to be extracted and processed to create usable energy, we have solar, wind and hydro that take adva tage of sources of energy that we simply intercept. Like a solar panel generating energy from the light that's already hitting the spot that we installed the panel, the wind turbine that's generating energy from the wind that's already blowing, etc.
  That may not be strictly true (im vaguely remembering secondary school geography lessons), but thats how i tend to distinguish them
  It seems like ben is relying on word play to create a fallacy to confuse the meaning of renewable, which oil and gas are not.
  Even if you look at it from the perspective of is a resource finite, which technically everything is, oil is going to run out an insurmountable amount of time before the wind stops blowing.

I feel like observing Ben Shapiro is a net-loss of society.
- Indeed. Even dunking on him, every time I see a tweet or whatever related to him, I just keep thinking to myself "I'd be better off not knowing this person exists."
- He's a wave function we should never collapse.
- It's a net loss to yourself tonight him any attention at all

Okay yeah it's funny, but the tweet is 7 years older than the reply.
- Sometimes you need time to think up the perfect comeback. For example, "The Jerk Store called, they're running out of you!"
  Pure gold takes time to form.
  
  Pfft, easy. I am rubber, you are glue. With the rhyme multiplier, you're unstoppable.
- Not sure if there's a bad time to point out how stupid Ben Shapiro is.
- Lol why does that matter?
- What, you think there's a statute of limitations for clowning on dumbfucks?
  Weird.
- And judging by the time and the #teaparty it's actually #KochFundedPAC.
  The tea party movement was pretty much entirely on the shoulders of the Koch asshats. Astroturfed "grassroots" bullshit. It's pretty much how we ended up with the Freedumb Caucus...

The sun will go out in 5 billion years. What's the point?
- The heat death of the universe will occur in 1.7×10 to the power of 106. Why should humanity even get out of bed, much less harness all of earth's energy becoming a type 1 civ or build a dyson's sphere and become a type 2 civ....

There's no such thing as free health care. Now excuse me, Home Depot is selling carpet with free installation.

I guess on a multi-billion year time scale, he's right. Eventually the sun will stop burning and we won't be able to harness its power. Until then, it's renewable energy. What a fool.
- It's not really renewable, it's more collectable.
- Renewable doesn't mean eternal. Renewable is stuff you are just getting.

So I guess he's technically correct. I mean the Sun will run out at some point. God he's a fucking idiot. He has the gall to cal others dumbass? JFC
- I think, he's rather well-ackshuallying the fact that you don't renew the actual energy itself. It remains conserved at all times...
- The same as the person at Olive Garden who is contesting the truth behind the "unlimited breadsticks" claim
  
  Yes that is indeed how comparisons work

There’s something you should know about “bottomless mimosas”…
- The more I drink the more I care about them truly being bottomless.
- I dropped my cocktail umbrella into one once. A few days later it returned with little corks dangling around its edge

Is the goal here to say something so dumb it just locks your brain out of a response?
It isn't like if we setup solar panels the sun is going to burn faster.
- Yes.
  It's called a thought cancelling argument. Essentially it's a non sequitur that's so fucking dumb that your stunned silence is seen as "getting owned" by limpdick morons.

Right-wing intellectual is such an oxymoron.

Ben's tiny hands probably cannot generate enough force to knock a plate out of a waiter's hand (see the rules of standard physics)
- Lmao, wasn't there a politician who was digging on someone's hands within the last couple of years as a main point of theirs?

How is "climate change" a dumb phrase? The climate is changing isn't it?
- Yeah, I think, that was him just actually being dumb. His tweet is from 2011. Back then, it wasn't yet obvious in everyday life that it is changing, so Mr. Facts-Don't-Care-About-Your-Feelings probably felt extra edgy ignoring the facts.
  
  It was obvious in everyday life in the 90's. He has no excuse except for being a bigoted privileged midget man, and honestly he's the one who gives them all a bad name.

Where does Mr. Shapiro think the energy contained within fossil fuels came from?
It's all the Sun in one way or another. Renewables just capture that energy more directly, effectively making them infinite until the Sun does out...
Unfortunately "Effectively infinite until the Sun dies out" doesn't have quite the same ring to it. Though you'd think you wouldn't need to tell someone as "smart" as Ben Shapiro about something so basic you can literally see it in the sky.

Bitch never heard of wind?
- "But the universe will die, and wind will stop! Check mate, atheists!"

Shapiro sounds like a pedantic troll. I love that response so much.

There are people out there - a lot of people - who thing he's smart. Humans are a failed evolutionary experiment.
- Bruh, the US is still uncertain Trump won't be elected. The proven criminal and grifter is at risk of taking the country AGAIN. The brain rot is real in the US. Of course Shapiro is a savant to them
- There are people who think Jordan 'Benzo Coma' Peterson's advice is worth listening to.
- When you're less intelligent than the layer of algae on the lake, any moron with a room temp IQ seems intelligent. Which, incidentally, is why republicans are anti-education: when your constituents are stupid AF, they'll believe any dipshit claiming they want to make America great while they burn it down around their ears.
- A friend (ex friend I guess since it's been two months) is constantly spouting the shit these types disseminate
  
  My hot take .. This is what happens when someone doesn't learn to find their own answers. Too much of education is spoon feeding instead of having kids investigate shit they're interested in on their own, with guidance on critical thinking. It is better now than it was BaCk In mY DaY.
  But I'm just sitting here contemplating my own brain journey. I learned far too late how to find my own answers and verify them for correctness. I tried to raise my kid from an early age to think for herself more by sometimes not verifying things for her but having her do that.
  The other thing is learning how to apply the scientific method to something you care about--to some project, say. It really has an impact when you get an answer that goes against common sense and then you verify it and think really hard and it turns out your new theory is correct.
  Imagine if education were set up with at least some portion of the day dedicated to satisfying curiosity in these ways...
  Kind of makes me think once I retire I should set up some kind of summer camp program like this.
  
  I have a friend who likes Ben Shapiro. He doesn't really follow any of his agenda, so it's not that bad. But if the topic comes up I just switch it asap.

Plancks bread.

He's thinking of the second law, anyway. The first law is just conservation of energy and if anything that makes limitless power sources seem more plausible.

I think he mean "free energy", the dumbest phrase since "make america great again"
- Make america great again is a good phrase, it is just uttered by people that want to make america great for troglodytes again.

That would be second law. Always fun seeing these dumb mother fuckers trying using tools that they don't understand.
Also who still listens to Ben "I shout louder than you so I won!" Shapiro?

Nobody tell him about all you can eat restaurants.

What a bozzo.
Should've known that per the Theory of Relativity everything is relative!
- There's only one relative on Ben's mind.

"THEY ALL GET UNLIMITED BREAD STICKS" I say as I fly my ship to Dippity Dare.

I don't like Shapiro, but this tweet is from 2011. I said and thought stupid shit back then too.
Now if this was from last year, Id be laughing my ass off. But it's not. So I am not.
- Ben still says stupid shit like this regularly. He was not a child 12 years ago.

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