3d ago

I'm going to miss lemm.ee.

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So what about all the valuble content in the Communities posted?
- Posts that propagated to other communities will stay on servers.
  Images will break though.

Shit I'm out of the loop, is my account being deleted or something?
- Yes. End of june.
- End of june, lemm.ee is shutting down.
  don't worry though, most communities are available on other instances.
  Just make a new account on lemmy.zip, export your settings/subscriptions from lemm.ee and import them on .zip.
- Out of loop? We had posts and posts about lemm.ee going down, how did you missed it?
  \ Anyway, end of June lemm.ee is going down, which means it won't be accessible! If you want to access lemmy after that, you have to find a new instance. Have a look here to search for a new instance.
  Don't forget to export your profile settings from settings > Import/Export Settings > export.
  
  Been busy with moving and stuff. This is the first I saw anything. Thanks for the info.

I really liked lemm.ee because it didn't defederate from the radical socialist and communist spectrum of political speech.
But the other issue with a bigger instance like lemm.ee going down is that as long as communities can't be moved (including users and content) to other instances, the lemmy project will fail. Because then only centralization in a few big instances is viable, and those big instances are going to become valuable and sold to plutocrats.
- Community migration is possible on Piefed https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/45876492?scrollToComments=true
- To be fair, lemm.ee didn't really act as host to any major communities to begin with. So communities aren't really the loss here, and it could be that having at least a few big active communities on an instance is a key part of maintaining its long term viability.
  Also, all the text posts and comments from lemm.ee will still remain on other instances. I'm sure the instance could also back up content, if the specific admin so desired to re-host.
  
  Yeah the biggest communities seem to be movies and television, and my guess is that they'll be gobbled up by lemmy.world. But every community migration like currently looses subscriber members, and split communities mean a lack of interaction. Social network require a critical mass, and also benefit from centralization. While federation works great for users there isn't a real solution for communities yet. There is a lot of randomness involved, like who gets to be the first to make a community might be a bad mod in the long term. For example the reddit r/climate mod is a climate skeptic. Not sure if there is any better solution.
  I'm just wondering how the best design for this problem would look like. Maybe the mod of a community could have some kind of key that he can transfer to another instance and automatically transfer all the user subscriptions and link the post history with them.
- That's a disturbingly good point.
  
  Community migration is available on Piefed: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/45876492?scrollToComments=true
- I hope you're not calling tankies radical socialists or communists. Because .ml et al are authoritarian instances, not lefty.
  
  I interact regularly with "those ml" instances and don't meet any (or not many) of people like you describe. I do believe it's mostly rumors, propaganda, cherry picking and liberal prejudice against socialists.
  Do you still know what is real? The principle behind freedom of speech is about hearing dissenting voices that might tell you a truth that the mainstream won't.
  In case you're curious, I also believe "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" so I often support or at least not condemn countries like Russia or China or Iran in their fight against the authoritarian US Empire. I'm a realist, pacifist and materialist, we already know what the regime change sought by the US will do to the people in "shithole" countries.

I'm an .ee refugee. I just hope this stuff doesn't become the norm where instances get shut down

Lemm.ee was my home instance. I will miss it dearly. I wasn't as active as I probably could have been, but I'm still sad.

I'm sorry but the best is dbzero. Lemm.ee was a damn good instance too though
- Its where I moved to :)
  
  I saw that, which is why I allowed myself to gas it up here.
  Again, just to be clear, no disrespect meant to lemm.ee refugees or the former admin, I just wanted to rep my instance to any potential former lemm.ee users because I like it here !
- The lemm.ee admin is a shit hot developer though, his instance was generally more robust than all the others, and he helped other instances when they had various problems. It's a shame he wasn't the lead lemmy developer, although I'm sure he doesn't have the time for such a big undertaking.
- I think it adds to our mystique that not even our regulars can spell it correctly :D
  
  I will now try to misspell it in a new way every time 🫡

NOoooooooo :(
lemm.ee has been hands down my favourite instance, it's genuinely depressing that it's going.

It was great while it lasted, and I thank those that ran it. A breath of fresh air after initially being on an instance that decided to nanny its users by defederating from instances for no good reasons.
I have a backup account on sdf.org, so I'm now using that as my main instance. Thanks to those who run it.
- Yeah, SDF is a good choice (and a very interesting org in its own right)

Wherever you guys migrate, please stop concentrating the userbase around lemmy.world, that's exactly what we're trying to avoid with Lemmy to begin with. The best thing you can do is go to https://join-lemmy.org/ and choose a server that's not in the top 10 or so. This will also help avoid things like the admins/mods burning out
- Yeah I was gonna try out piefed and mbin but if those don’t work out for me any lemmy instance suggestions? J was thinking lemmy.zip or any instance who only defederates with spam/illegal stuff
  
  Apparently db0 and lemmy.zip are two such instances that broadly federate
  
  lemmy.today doesn't block any instances. But db0 is good too, I've been happy with it.
- https://lemmy.zip/post/40323214
- .wolrd is the only instance I have been able to stay on so far.
  Every smaller one I try bans me for minor disagreements or wrongthink. They all feel like exclusive clubs that they don't really want people to join, but will then whine about low user numbers.
  The larger spaces have admins that are more often held accountable and put on blast, it's just the nature of these kinds of spaces.
- I did my part. Time for my retro gaming lemmy era 😎 already bought all the stuff I need to put freehdboot on my ps2.
- There are some sites that show what instances are de-federated from that. People can use that as a guide as well, if there are instances they don't really want feeds from due to their underlying circumstances. They should also check the admins and modlog so they don't run into surprises later down the line.

Thank you, not just for showing respect and appreciation to the people behind Lemm.ee but because these posts are a magnet for the kind of trolls everyone should block before migrating elsewhere. 👌
- Here’s an entitled ass to add to your collection lol https://sh.itjust.works/comment/19001249
  
  They sound like they want to speak to the manager.
  That's an unfortunate situation with slrpnk.net. Not having anyone able to physically access a server for weeks was really tempting fate, though.

I'll be honest i don't get what people differentiate so much about instances. most of the time i don't even notice what instance people I'm talking to are from, what instance the community in browsing is from, what instance the meme I'm viewing is from... is it about the software you're using that you're so aware of these things?
- To me, it's mostly how an instance is ran. How it makes its decisions: defederating or not, and with whom, how they handle complaints, how they handle bans, etc. makes a difference in both the communities it hosts and its members.
  There's also the matter of user culture. Some instances, like Beehaw, Lemmygrad, and Hexbear are known for a certain user culture. Some users might steer clear away from certain instances because of that perceived user culture.
  And then there's the issue of defederation stance. It might not be readily apparent, or affect your user experience in a big way, but for some users, it's a factor. This is also where lemm.ee made its mark. It basically used defederation as a last resort, and some users were drawn to that.
  
  That's why I was here. I've already made a few more accounts just to have backups in case this happens again, but I really really enjoyed how I could see most of the Fediverse, and could block with my own settings if I didn't like the way another instance was ran. I will miss it. :'-]
- Community cultures, mostly, as trimmed and pruned by admins. Most instances I don't notice massive differences in, with a few exceptions.
- Different admins; some instances federate with some, some block others.
- If your display settings don't show the full username, there's no way to tell really. Voyager and Alexandrite show then by default. I think people just like to root for teams inherently and the interinstance drama is kind of fun. If you're on Lemmy a lot you start to recognize people and their main instance, there really aren't that many of us.
- Well, that is unless they are coming from .ml 😒
  
  Rich coming from a .worder
- unless its coming from .ml, hexbear or lemmygrad. the comments cant get annoying.
  
  With .ml you can sometimes still have a good discussion. Maybe because the community is so big. And not everyone who joins knows ml stands for Marxist-Leninist.
  But those other 2 are chock full of extremists.
- Childish people love to argue about childish things.

I'm tearing up :'(
Thx for all the severing!
<3

Thank you to all the admins and donators who kept lemm.ee going.

what do i do now i only use jerboa how do i change instances
- Go to https://lemm.ee/settings in a web browser (I'm not sure its in jerboa), and export your settings.
  Make an account at lemmy.zip or lemmy.cafe, go to settings there, and import the settings file.
  then, log out of jerboa, and log in with your new account.
  
  Can you explain why Lemmy.zip or Lemmy.cafe specifcaly?

Oh …..oh God, why!!! Why!? It’s too soon!!! 😭😩

too soon!
- Definitely

Tell me about it. My JSON file with all my settings won't upload, so l have to start over, day one.
- Hey, we are aware - I've made a comment here: https://lemmy.zip/post/40323214/19304384
  Tldr - try with a vpn!
  
  No joy, still tells me the JSON is malformed. Since I downloaded it from lemm.ee, I don't see how that's possible.
- You should probably ask about this in !home@lemmy.zip

@irelephant
Thanks to all devs and admins, you ran a great instance, best one around. And for the toxic self-hating trolls with daddy issues... you are not worth the time.

Fellow lemm.ee refugee!
Thank you to the lemm.ee admins and mods for everything. I will miss the defederation policy the most!

You're not crying, I'm crying!

Why? What is going on?
- lemm.ee is shutting down, due to admin burnout.
  
  Isn't the whole point of lemmy is you don't "have" to monitor it with admins?
- most of the admins left due to stress, or lack of hiring. thats why its shutting down.
- !meta@lemm.ee

lemmyee grew too fast for its own good, with the reddit purges.

Yeah, what a shame.

Take lemmy.today instead!
- Are you saying lemmy.today is no good?
- Sir, you took the words right out of my mouth when read the news
- i made an account yesterday, and imported my prferences over.

Nooooooooooooooooooo

Lol, no it wasn't. It was the place where the lowest-common-denominator ended up. My experience on more niche, tailored servers has been wonderful for thoughtful discussion and avoiding useless flame wars.
- Thanks for saying this. We did see some hate coming from there whereas on more dedicated servers there's generally none of that.

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