Minnesota teen says server forced her to prove her gender in restaurant bathroom
Minnesota teen says server forced her to prove her gender in restaurant bathroom
Surely "fuck off you stupid cunt" is the only reasonable response to such a request?
Exactly. I would NEVER "prove" anything to anyone. The proper response is to collect their name, the manager's name, and hire a lawyer to send a letter to corporate.
If you’re a minor being questioned like this, start screaming PEDO. Guaranteed they back down once they realize what she said and what they’re doing is quite disturbing
Guaranteed they back down once they realize what she said and what they’re doing is quite disturbing
Cruelty isn't a bug, it's a feature. MAGA has a massive cruelty hardon. The dumbth voted for this because they are seething with resentment at being made to feel stupid (by the "intellectual elites") and backwards (by progressives) and ignorant (by the informed) and intolerant (by the woke). You can literally hear what they're pissed about in the names that they call people. They WANT people hurt. They WANT revenge. THIS is what the dumbth want.
I'll remember this when I'm an 18 year old minor
She's not a minor.
You think the genital police can tell the difference between an adult and a child?
This is fully sexual assault
But it is for their own good. Without measures like this, they might end up in bathrooms with perv… hey wait a minute. 💡
And this is in a state with no anti-trans bathroom laws. This server has no excuse other than being a complete piece of shit. Wish they'd name and shame her.
Based on the article the server is a woman.
“She made me feel very uncomfortable,” Mudra said. “After that, I just don’t like going in public bathrooms. I just hold it in. ... I want to be able to use the bathroom in peace.”
My point still stands, but thank you for the correction. Fixed.
BWW is a trash ass company!! I was on restrictions where I couldn’t lift anything more than 5lbs and then couldn’t be on my feet for a prolonged time due to a back injury I had at the school I taught and this manager has the audacity to tell me I still could work a double and yelled at me about how messed up it was that I couldn’t come in (I had doctors notes and gave him notice). I then so upset called corporate and complained about what happened to me and they promised to follow up and ensure that doesn’t happens to anyone else given my doctors notes. Well come to find out, he was fired two weeks after my corporate complaint! So hopefully they do the same because that company is truly horrid and that server is a POS! NAME HER! Haha.
So you called out a shitty boss\employee to upper management and they fired him. I'm pretty sure that response means they actually do care about these kind of situations. Sorry you dealt with a manager that didn't understand an applicable HR situation, but that doesn't mean the whole company is trash. Hopefully they do react the same for this situation.
Yes but I had to deal with calling corporate because he wouldn’t put me on leave. I was injured as a teacher and had notes and still wouldn’t give. He put me on doubles but I shouldn’t have had to call corporate, that’s the point. Also, almost always my order from BWW is wrong, why we don’t eat there anymore.
Not trying to pay for wrong orders, terrible service, and mediocre food. I agree, they did handle it appropriately but only after I called corporate because he wouldn’t stop calling me to try to get me to come in. That shouldn’t have happened. Glad he’s gone but can’t imagine what’s happening at other stores. My friend worked there for a year and the entire time she hated it, management, and would come home to our apartment crying almost everyday. (I thought it was just that store-until I experienced it myself firsthand from another store).
can we switch to gender neutral bathrooms please?
In a society where women are often harassed, many women use bathrooms to escape men, even if just for a few moments of peace.
There was a place in Japan I went to that had 2 bathrooms: one gender neutral and one women’s room. I don’t know if that solves everyone’s problems (or anyone’s) but I thought it was interesting.
The problem is, with women like this server around, you can still get harassed in the bathroom even with no men present. So I'm not sure it has much value as a refuge at this point.
Everywhere needs at least one single occupancy gender neutral restroom.
But saying that, I've been harassed while trying to use a porta potty. Can't win for losing.
If you’re being harassed, I feel like going is a closed space like a bathroom is probably the worst idea possible
It seems like these news stories only get written when the victim is a cis person mistaken for being trans.
There are way more cis people.
That is the default settings.
One thing is that these are the stories that actually have some vague chance at swaying a person that thinks we should be policing trans use of bathrooms. If they see more trouble and harassment of the class of people they think they are protecting, maybe part of them has to see it's doing even more against their cause than the alternative.
Another is that trans people are relatively more rare, so it just makes plain sense that this will usually happen to a cisgender person. If someone thinks that someone seems not to look like their gender, odds still are that they are cisgender just by the numbers.
The biggest group affected are most likely ciswomen, since people love to control how women look and act, and there's just way, way less transwomen in the toilets. Meaning the most commonly happening effect of these crazy bathroom laws is basically punishing ciswomen for not looking feminine enough
Pretty sure you’re right that there’s more articles about cis people being “inconvenienced”. However I can think of at least 3 reasons off of the top of my head:
It’s because trans technology is so advanced that they all pass undetected. /s
In all seriousness, I think it reflects just how distorted the anti-trans bigot’s perception of reality is and how enabled they feel to act on those perceptions. These people believe that trans people are more common than they actually are and they are hyper-fixated on proving it.
I think your critique of the “not a problem until it affects me” nature of this is valid; however, this also signifies that transphobia is becoming less rhetorical and more actionable. That is terrifying for anyone who doesn’t meet the arbitrary socially acceptable expressions of gender.
My hope here is that more people will come to realize how stupid transphobia and gender/bathroom policing is when they start to realize that it affects them, too.
The last one before this I read was an ftm guy, Luca Strobel, who had to use the woman's bathroom since there were no stalls in the men's.
https://lemmy.ca/post/45048725
https://lemmy.world/post/30614642
Though, those publications are considerably less mainstream, so you still have a point.
Everything about that is just fucking awful. And who even makes a toilet with no stalls?! Do men not need to shit? Wtf
Welcome to Republicans' America. This comes right after Trump's administration started forcing trans folks out of the military, yet denying them retirement benefits. People with 15-18 years of service to our country that had been previously approved for early retirement have now had that rescinded because they are "medically unfit". The hatred is in full force...
It’s gross that the victim of this scenario is now made public and yet the sexual abuser identity here is protected? Wtf.
That's why I bring my ID and passport to restaurants. Gotta prove I'm white, hunkydory, citizen and male. Having to show my dick in public places gets old quick. But then I need to show I'm black or Chinese for other things.
It looks we’re one step away from someone having to physically “verify” someone’s gender.
“I only inserted my fingers into their vagina to make sure that it was real.”
“I touched their penis to confirm that it was indeed real.”
... and I feared for my life from the genitalia touchers, so I started blasting.
https://imgur.com/gallery/cats-dont-draw-BG6ex7S
Alt text - A comic of an androgynous person being asked "Hey are you MALE or FEMALE". The person's response is "Yes." A follow up question being asked "Ok but which do you prefer". Response "Cats" (with a little heart). Another follow up question is being asked "No I mean what's in your pants?!!" The person raises their shirt to show a pistol underneath the waist band of their pants with their response "A gun".
With a gun, right?
Who in the world said servers are authorized to demand such a thing?
She apparently was a self-appointed bathroom gender-inspector. Transphobes feeling bold these days.
They've got the iron fist of a dictatorship behind them.
He should be arrested and charged with sexaual assault of a minor. Fucking pedophile. What restaurant? They should be hounded for employing a pedophile.
Transphobes feeling bold these days.
Are there any repricussions to them behaving this way?
We don't even know if the server is a transphobe, maybe it was just an excuse for them to demand to see a child's genitals.
republican nazis and democrat asskissers and pushover cosplaying liberals let all this happen.
Still pretending like you leftists didn't directly help lead the country to a shit hole by your Jill Stein votes or your non-votes?
Leftists? How's Gaza looking? Your inaction is why they will be starved to death.
But whatever helps you sleep at night.
Pushover liberals? Nah, you meant to say pushover democrats.
Because we have allowed impotent pacifist dipshits control the narrative for the Left too long, is why we are here.
Republicans
Even the mods agree. You gotta burn bad behavior back before it spreads.
What an absolute fascist restraunt
you keep using that word... i do not think it means what you think it means
You're right, BWW probably isn't fit to be called a restaurant
arguing with absolutism vs expediency i see
This was by design. Anti-trans fear-mongering was always meant to punish men who don’t look manly enough and women who don’t look like 50s housewives. The cruelty is the point.
I’m pretty sure it was also meant to punish trans people, but yeah, those things you said as well. That’s a feature, not a bug.
Isn't that just called assault?
In general, it is then appropriate to respond with a pepper (spray)
Someone pulls that shit on one of my kids and theyre getting sprayed alright. .45 acp is close enough to capsaicin right?
no its called "Making America Great Again™"
Yes.
Telling someone to leave someplace isn't assault. The person was clearly an asshole/bigot, but she didn't ask the lady to show her boobs to prove she was a woman, she told her she had to leave because she can't be in there.
Younger people are generally easier to groom. Ladies and Gentlemen, introducing, The Hitler Youth movement
It's worse... My understanding is that you didn't really have much of a choice about joining the Hitler Youth
Indeed, in 1922 certainly more like heavily encouraged boy scouts / girl guides. Be there or be a bit excluded from the social club. Compulsory by 1936. Trump in 2025 is starting with the schools, "burning the books" and imprinting his way. It won't be long. We already have the SA with ICE and expect the SS. History is repeating whether by plan or otherwise.
i witnessed a young woman crying at a mcdonalds the other day. she walked into the ladies room and a man was in there jerking off.
the problem has nothing to do with gender.
the problem is assholes.
this server is a sex predator and needs prison.
It was never about women or safety. It was always about control, fear, and punishment.
Cowardly attacks on the most vulnerable for criminally-immoral political advantage. Leave our neighbors alone!
Sorry what was? Bathrooms? Are about punishment?
Bathroom access has long been used to punish undesirable groups and to keep them from public life. Women who chose to work outside the home were punished in the 19th century by not having access to restrooms. People of color were punished in the 20th century for daring to exist in society by being denied restroom access at white establishments. And now people are trying to punish trans and gender non-conforming people by denying them restroom access.
In case you haven't connected the dots, the obsession over restrooms isn't actually about restrooms. If you can restrict the ability of undesirables to access public restrooms, you can effectively bar them from public life. It's a way of criminalizing innocent people without actually having to arrest or throw them in prison.
And yes, these laws do effectively ban trans people from any bathroom. I'm a trans person myself, but you wouldn't know unless I told you. I would be violating the law if I used the women's restroom in Florida. But if I went into the men's, I would have people throwing me out, telling me I'm in the wrong bathroom. Hell, I could be arrested for trying to use the men's room in Florida, the very bathroom the law requires me to use. There's no easy way for me to even prove that I am trans. My legal documents have all been documented, and I went far enough in transition I couldn't even prove my trans status by dropping my pants. And yet, the law in Florida requires me to use the men's restroom. So if I use a restroom in Florida, I either have to violate the law and risk arrest if somehow someone were to figure it out and report me. Or I could follow the law and still face harassment, assault, and possible arrest.
Truthfully, to me, the law in Florida has done exactly what it was intended to do. I simply won't set foot in the state of Florida, or any other state with a bathroom ban. The government of Florida has effectively barred me, an American citizen, from the right to visit the state. And all I did to deserve this banishment was be born trans.
The Government trying to prevent trans people from using the "wrong" bathroom.
They claimed it was to protect women, but really it just hurts trans people and women by allowing strangers to demand women prove their gender.
maybe next time you go and vote instead of looking at tiktok
Child predators, right?
Victim was 18 so technically an adult, but still young. Who knows how many people the server has previously accosted (and how old they were) as well?
yeah, my comment definitely sounds like I'm saying that the victim was a child. I'm just referring to the argument that all the politicians made about why we need bathroom bills.
No one who isn't an evil motherfucker is going into bathrooms to victimize children. How do you know if someone is an evil motherfucker? Well, the low-bar starts at "willing to check other people's anatomy to find out if they can potty in this room."
At what point will they just start going "show me your pussy, it's the law!"
Sue that restaurant into the ground. Teach them a lesson.
Pro tip: If a place serves chicken wings, and calls them "Buffalo Wings" just do yourself a favor, and skip it.
I mean I don't like Buffalo sauce either, but you are basically saying just skip wings altogether because everywhere seems to do this.
Not in my area, I live in WNY lol
Do you apply a similar rule to California Rolls, Texas Toast, Key Lime Pie, New York Cheesecake, or Philly Cheesesteaks?
Maybe I'll start? Does bad quality follow in those cases? I dont know. I know it does with chicken wings :)
What's wrong with Buffalo?
Nothing, but they are just "chicken wings". Generally, if a place calls them "Buffalo wings" they just aren't good.
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They're endangered.
Sadly we are at a point that only ends in civil unrest or war
We’ll never going to that restaurant again
Oh, you should absolutely go there again, as should many other people, but only to explain to the manager, in detail, exactly how unacceptable this is, and to demand proof that they have written policies forbidding their staff from engaging in this sort of behaviour. Then contact law enforcement to ush them to prosecute to the maximum extent possible.
What was the computer doing in the bathroom in the first place?