Even magas can't be buying this, can they?
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Get this! Mike Johnson is now claiming — with no evidence whatsoever — that Donald Trump once served as an FBI informant to help dismantle sex offender Jeffrey Epstein’s trafficking network. Johnson told reporters Trump “was an FBI informant in an effort to take Epstein down.”
I’M NOT JOKING!!! 🤣🤣
MAGA voted for all this.
Remember that.
Sadly I have already seen some posts praising him for his "service"
MAGA should realize they've got a real 007 on their hands
0 Intel Collected
0 Kids Saved
7 Children Raped
"I participated in child sex trafficking but told the fbi. Im a hero!"
"I raped all those children to save them!*
"And I made good friends along the way, so I'll be pardoning them"
“I participated in child sex trafficking but told the fbi. Im a hero!”
Nobel Peace Prize, here we come!
This is literally an official admission of his guilt. FBI informants do NOT have qualified immunity. They probably brought him in for questioning once.
This can easily be discarded for just the fact that trump would have bragged about this a long time ago if true.
The problem is this is the exact cope that magats have been using since the flight logs were released, maybe even earlier.
"Trump good guy so if he was close with epstein it was OBVIOUSLY so he could take down the pedo ring!"
This will cause cognitive dissonance in approximately none of them.
He's a great agent. It was real savy of trump to buy a teen pageant and then publicly brag about molesting pageant girls. Great undercover work, that'd convince anyone he's a pedophile.
(/s)
This is gonna cause a resurgence of Qanon. And even his "normal" base will lap it up, because now it's not coming from 4chan, but rather his own speaker.
This administration is the most insane government I've ever seen in a 'developed' nation, at any time in the recorded history of 'developed' nations. There isn't even a close second, and it's somehow worse than Trump's first term.
Looking forward to his third term, I'm sure it'll be great fun.
He tweeted something last week with a Q in it trying to stir them up again. Mostly to try and throw the deep-seeded maga nuts off of the Epstein files. They are 100% not going to let that go - this is the closest they'll ever get in their lives to being correct about a cabal of pedos running things.
That's great Mike! I'm sure releasing the epstein files will show all that and exonerate your guy.
Donald Trump was an FBI Informant for a man who did NO WRONG and also does NOT Appear in the Epstein Files despite being REALLY Close to Epstein to bring him down and had SEX with CHILDREN to bring down Epstein who Continued bringing children to CHILD RAPE ISLAND for DECADES after Trump started Investigating him!
He was VERY inside the organization! You could say balls deep into all the little details!
This is a Qanon thing my MIL was spouting years ago. Trump was “secretly there to save the children” is not new.
I’m sure he only walked into the dressing rooms to watch the children change so that he could assess their risk levels of being trafficked, right?
These people and their cognitive dissonance.
Don't you become an informant when they catch you and offer you the deal; You get to walk free for the crime you committed, but have to risk your life spying on your fellow criminals for the fuzz?
Trump would 100% take that deal if it was offered to him, without a moments hesitation. He'd also fuck it up within about 30 seconds. Which is why I know this isn't real.
And aren't criminal informants generally used for the same types of crimes they were arrested for?
MAGA's buy everything Trump and his cronies sell them. They are braindead, fucking idiots.
They are not braindead, they are brainwashed to an alarming degree.
Which was only possible because they were starting out with a room temperature IQ. Anyone who had as much as two synapses to rub together would have seen through his claims to begin with. We are not exactly talking about masterly deceptions here, most of the time even he didn't know where he was going with his ramblings.
If it hasn't been trump, it would have been someone else.
Even if he was an informant, arent informants people who were involved and just as guilty?
Don't fall into it. It's a classic case of
It didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.
We've gone from "it didn't happen" to "and if it is, that's not my fault". By saying "even if he was" you are inadvertently enabling the next step.
It happened. It was that bad. It is a big deal. He took part in the fault. He did mean it. They (the victims) didn't deserve it.
Exactly. The FBI “turns” people who are likely guilty into informants with the promise of leniency if they help to get dirt on “bigger fish”. They don’t just go up to a random business man in good standing and ask them to befriend the target of a criminal investigation.
So if Trump admits to this then it implies the FBI was investigating him for similar crimes and decided to use him to further incriminate Epstein.
Ah, but this is a thing that crappy police procedurals MAKE YOU THINK happens. You go to someone they "might" recruit, or whoever's next on THE LIST of people to recruit, and flip them BEFORE because OF COURSE these people will happily help with an investigation at the cost of their business, their credibility, maybe even their life.
Hey guys, former MI6 Agent here, I have a confidential source from inside capitol hill confirming that US House Speaker Johnson's words are false.
Source: Idk, ask how Johnson he pulled that out of his ass
How many major drug dealers were caught and became "fbi informants" to take down the rest?
Isn't this an admission of guilt?
Exactly what I came here to say. Many if not most informants are people who cut a deal in order to get out of their own charges because the evidence against them is so strong that they wouldn't stand a chance in court.
Now it is possible that the FBI had him on financial crimes and used him to get to Epstein however that's unlikely the case considering the courts have found Trump liable for one sexual assault (E. Jean Carroll) and he's been accused of several more including the rape of a 13 year old: https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000158-26b6-dda3-afd8-b6fe46f40000
Are you implying that Trump, who is well known for his selflessness generosity and willingness to help others for a good cause, might have been acting out of selfish self interest?!??!
Yeah, informants are criminals working off a debt to law enforcement to lower their sentence or avoid prosecution for their own crimes.
Are they sure this is the angle they want to take?
FWIW, apparently they are. I hadn't peeked to see if we'd hit the high water mark for what /r/conservative will accept from Trump in a couple months. You'll be happy to know that we have not.
This is apparently his actual vindication according to the true believers.
Least plausible explanation ever. It makes the 'dog ate my homework ' seem like a masterclass in defence.
"ICE Raided my house and destroyed the honework" now seems very plausible
So they’re admitting that he’s in the files but that he was an undercover fbi agent, and part of the undercover operation was raping kids… so it’s all good?
I'm just so happy they continue to bring up Jeffery Epstein on their own lmao
Keep it in the headlines, please
Even magas can't be buying this, can they?
...they're probably already buying t-shirts with 'Agent Trump' or some shit, or branding it onto their foreheads, as they do.
Of course they're buying it.
Usually it's less that they believe it and now that they will never hear it.
People exist more and more in their own media bubble and the podcast Bros and Fox News will just not mention this.
Trump was an undercover FBI agent raping underage girls so he wouldn't blow his cover.
I don't have a doubt in my mind Trump's mayonnaise brain might now think this is true. Him and reality have never really got along.
I mean, it is only fair that we apologize for our doubts and cheer for his nobel prize... After they release ALL the files, which would make that work as an FBI informant public info. If true, I am sure it was out of a sense of public duty, and not a way to shield him from prosecution. He is a patriot, not a low level pedo snitch, right?
During the first Trump term I was on a local social media website that shall remain nameless. The magats were hands-down the most arrogant, ignorant, illiterate, consistently miserable people I've ever dealt with online. Most of them couldn't spell, capitalize or punctuate, or write even a simple sentence expressing a coherent thought. Apparently they really had no coherent thoughts to express.
For months I saw nothing from them but lockstep support of Trump no matter what he did. It became clear that magats aren't smart enough to know what they're supporting and they don't care as long as they get to hurt the people they hate. That includes most everyone else.
I hope every maga jackass gets the get the day they voted for. It's too bad the rest of us will get the day they voted for too.
I hope every maga jackass gets the get the day they voted for. It’s too bad the rest of us will get the day they voted for too.
I'm stealing this!
How the hell are public officials allowed to just 100% lie and gas light ALL of the time?
Before I retired, if an employee of mine lied to me about their job, and I found out, that person would have been terminated. Immediately.
Because no American politician has ever been held accountable for lies or corruption. They know they can get away with it so why wouldn't they
Can't you guys pretend that politicians are all black and/or poor? You all seem to have no trouble at all stomping all over those guys.....
I'll be honest, I know that the Epstein thing was/is supposed to be the unifying matter that Republicans and Democrats all agree on, but outside of online discourse, I haven't heard any MAGA discussion of the topic in weeks (or longer).
Maybe I'm just in an anomalous social circle, but from my perspective, it seems like there's a vocal minority of MAGA online who make a ruckus about this, when in person, they just don't give a crap.
So, I hate to think it, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter what excuse Republican leaders give or what story they weave. I'm guessing they could literally just release mountains of evidence and fully admit that Trump did it, intentionally, and he enjoyed it immensely, and his popularity with MAGA would probably only drop a couple of percentage points (and that's if it didn't actually go up for him "telling it like it is").
Maybe I’m just in an anomalous social circle, but from my perspective, it seems like there’s a vocal minority of MAGA online who make a ruckus about this, when in person, they just don’t give a crap.
I am in a similar anomalous circle if so. Even the articles about how angry maga finally is with Trump about this or that are never supported by anything more than a single-digit number of social media posts. Nearly all of those sorts of articles so far that I've seen have ultimately just been the author interpreting tiny little ripples in the way that most supports what we (and probably they) want to hear.
I think this is done in earnest for the most part, because we all want to believe that a big chunk of maga voters somehow just haven't heard about what he's doing or what he's done. And yet, all the evidence I've seen points to they absolutely are aware and they either fully support it or still think there is some benefit yet to materialize that will make it all worthwhile.
They absolutely will buy it. Give it some time
Based on a peek at reddit, they already have. 🤦♂️
He has earned the Knobhead prize instead of a Nobel prize.
Isn't this just QAnon with a thin veneer?
Oh ok, so they caught him pedophiling, and used him like a little bitch to catch more of his pedophile friends while they pedophile together.
Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia.
Insane, rotten, fuckers, Pedo POS.
Of course they will buy it. It solves the cognitive dissonance.
Magas are going to fall for this, aren't they.
Magas are going to fall for this, aren’t they.
I mean, we do have logic on our side:
I think your pic still applies though, they'll "not hear" the bullet points.
You people still believe them that they don't believe this stuff.
They keep showing us all exactly how depraved they are and we keep writing these dumb posts.
THEY WANT POWER, THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT RIGHT AND WRONG.
It must have been so hard for Trump to rape hundreds of children with Epstein to gain his trust. That is what you have to do to stop a pedophile though! /S
For the KGB
They don't have to believe it, they just have to use it. He's their guy on their team, after all, and the other team losing is more important than being right (ethically, morally, or factually).
That's the magic of fascism: it doesn't matter if it's true or not.
Edit: sorry, wrong post to reply to
You really think the guy himself wouldn't be bragging about it 247 if this was the case.
All this does for me is seat more evidently that he is a Russian asset.
Then release the files so we can all read the epic tale of Trump defender of women and girls.
Surely there is an FBI file including some kind of debrief interview where this is all laid plain. As long as no one has ordered purges of records and documents based on specific keywords regardless of context there is almost guaranteed to be such a recording/transcript, right?
It's open and shut for an actual FBI informant that currently holds the office of president to produce and provide that kind of documentation, and surely it will be called for with at least as much vigor as Obama's birth certificate by the exact same people who were even then only trying to protect the sanctity of the office of the president. Any minute now.
Even magas can't be buying this
Oh you sweet summer child.
Start calling him Glowie in chief on twitter or something
"Trump is really a hero in this. The best hero."
(And yes, they can believe it.)
So best case scenario he's a rat. I mean this is an obvious lie, but it's so fucking stupid and short sighted. Like everyone knows that undercover cops do as much and commit as many crimes as the criminals they're in with, and informants are no different. So he's either a child raping rat, or a child raping liar...
FBI as in Fat Bastard Incel -- I might buy it.
Yep, stooping to a new level of low.
That christofascist queer is going straight to hell
So that's what they spend two weeks of recessed Congress coming up with. Set's see if it catches on
Ahhhh that’s why his name is all over the files. Because he was a super double secret squirrel agent! It all makes sense!!!
I don't think this strategy will work
I say it will work about 33%.
And Trump hasn’t said this before because…?
It’s dumpy. If he was an informant, he’d be bragging about it very fucking day.
"Trump WITNESSED against Jeffefery Epstein about ALL THE BAD STUFF he had seen."
On my bullshit-o-meter I am measuring 2.5 Mega-Trump. The highest value yet to be measured.
Is this the Mike "Moses" Johnson who shares a house in Washington with a gay man who answers the door for him in his underpants?
yea well it sounds like he made a deal with the FBI to get immunity for his child rape crimes.
yea well it sounds like he made a deal with thr FBI to get immunity for his child rape crimes.
Maga: See, all above board and legal. What's the big deal?
DoJ knew Epstein was a pedophile and they knew all of his clients were also pedos and they did absolutely nothing about it.
All of the DoJ and FBI people who covered up for the pedos are as bad as pedos and when the justice comesz they should be tried for being complicit..
That's how accountability works.
Johnson is also complicit.
Paulson a recently named Billionaire Pedo is a huge donor to trump an Johnson btw
He is also a Zionist along with with other billionaires running cmear campaigns against massie in Kentucky
The problem with the Epstein stuff is that it is, ultimately, all inside baseball. Maybe your podcast of choice has been screaming "Give Us The List!" for years, but it's still just entertainment for an audience.
Materially, none of this matters to the bulk of the population. It isn't that people are buying it. They just have bigger issues in their lives than knowing which celebrities are kiddie diddlers.
It isn't as though even knowing will alter the frequency of child sexual assault in this country. Meanwhile, we've got ICE agents snatching up tens of thousands of migrants and shoving them into black sites. And you know that's becoming an All You Can Rape Buffet.
Johnson can say what he wants. He can sexually assault who he wants. Wouldn't even be the first pedophile Speaker of the House in the news.
The gossip is just gossip. None of it shapes the behaviors of anyone in or near a position of authority.
Source? Daily Mail? Right.
Source? Daily Mail? Right.
As if there is any reason to doubt that Trump's team has made this claim, but OK, I'll play, you can pick your own source.
So you're telling me Trump DID know about all the child-raping all along? And never said anything about it this whole time in the years after he had Epstein killed? The man who takes credit for EVERYTHING never once piped up to say "I turned Epstein in to the FBI"?
That's not the slam dunk you seem to think it is, Johnson.
Yes, that is what is means. Trump was chummy with Epstein for many years, knew about the child trafficking and took part in it. Epstein "stole" a young girl from Trump's resort and Trump got mad that Epstein took her out from under him. So, when Epstein wanted to buy a mansion, Trump used a Russian oligarch's money to outbid him. And Epstein was so pissed that he threatened to expose Trump's ties to Russia, and as a response, Trump turned Epstein in to the FBI. Alex Acosta was persuaded to give Epstein a sweetheart deal where he was not given Federal charges and got out on work release for up to 16 hours a day, 6 days a week, during his massively shortened sentence. And when Trump and Epstein later made up, Trump returned the favor to Acosta by giving him the Secretary of Labor position in his cabinet. So yeah, Trump "informing on Epstein to the FBI" definitely does not turn him into some kind of hero.
Excellent summary. What's your opinion om the possibility epstein was a honey pot? When confronted about the deal during his confirmation hearings, Acosta claimed that he was told epstein "belonged to intelligence" and that the matter was "above his pay grade." It could be a convenient and unverifiable excuse, but the fact that the FBI doubtless has mountains of evidence recovered from two raids on epstein and basically zero prosecution has arisen from it, I find it likely to be true.
It's almost as if they're trying to set up the claim that if he did fuck any kids, it was to protect them from the creeps that wanted to fuck them.
Sociopaths.