Android is FOSS tho
46yeah just like Chromium technically speaking
23Android is FOSS, but is your phone FOSS?
6i use a foss rom, so its software is.
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Ubuntu touch stans:
34Get a haircut, hippie.
11Ubuntu Touch represent!
3Also the team got volte and 5g running on the os!
2Oh shit that's dope I haven't been keeping up too much with the project
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Do android stans exist? Had always thought android was the lesser of two evils for most people
32its most definitely the lesser, but there are still many people who would suck off Samsung and Google if they had the opportunity to.
trust me I've met them
33Oh yeah Android has swarms of fanboys.
3I used to be one of those fanboys when I was younger, but that was driven more by the fact that they weren't iPhones than anything particularly good about Android
Used to be a fan of OnePlus but they've become like every other phone company now from what I hear
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GrapheneOS FTW
29If I need to choose, I'll go with Android but to be quite frank, I would really prefer to have a "real" computer operating system on those devices. For 10+ years I've been waiting for a device that I can put in my pocket, use it on the go, with a data connection, and have the possibility to dock it and continue using it as a full fledged computer, with Linux if possible.
I know some high end Android devices can be "docked" and connected to a monitor, but they are far too expensive and/or too rare. Also, you still have to use apps instead of proper computer software. I don't like the "everything is an app" model, where they all have to have ads and/or paid versions. Android and "mobile" operating systems are a pain to use. I want to have control over my device.
And I also know there are some devices that can to this, but with the level of technology that we have, a device like this should be easy to find. Yet, it's all niche stuff that isn't really polished nor working really well. It's all damn phones and tablets with "mobile" operating systems that locks users. I wonder if phone/tablet manufacturers keep it that way because there's no demand for this, or if they simply want to continue the milking of the mobile users.
26This! Mobile operating systems are trash, and there's no good reason for it. I always see people parroting the same nonsense, "you have the power of a super computer in your pocket". Okay, then why can't I use it like a supercomputer? It's all crippled toy versions of the desktop applications, social media garbage, or microtransaction stuffed toilet games.
8Absolutely this. I, too, go for android (pixel even, sigh) but would prefer a real os. android was aweful when it came out, grew much better, then declined again. And with each update they kill so many apps due to "security"-changes.
And what's worst of all, is the constant struggle to actually own your own device (=root). Noone would ever have bought a pc with no admin-pwd where you can only "refresh" your current windows-version and nothing more. You can't buy anything else than pixels (and even with those you need at least minimum tech-knowledge and are dependent on the continuing development of ONE app). Having any other brand makes it near impossible without luck, time and frustration-tolerance.
The coming generations will just pay 1000 for a phone they are allowed to use, not own, and think that is how it is and ever has been.
4I still am grumpy about Microsoft killing their windows phone line. Not the regular ones, but rather the ones that allowed you to dock it to a display and use a slightly stripped down Windows OS on a full screen. It could've actually changed how we use phones/ computers, but instead we have to have a separate device for everything we do.
Phones are already powerful enough to run desktop apps, but I guess it's down to profits why we still don't have a "swiss army knife" of a device for everything.
3Indeed. They were on the way to a unified os. Still kinda are. And people totally hate them for it. At least you could use the (nearly) same win on your Touch-pad and desktop. And i actually liked their phones. Just could never really keep it without telegram. And that (the lack of apps) was their downfall.
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Graphene OS changed my life, seriously. Completely changed my relationship to my phone and made it possible to focus again. Go open source
26What specific features did you notice the most? (I'm assuming switching from Android?) 90% of my phone usage is through a browser, so I could probably install Graphene pretty easily.
10#1 through #69: no push notifications, no feeds on my home screen, nothing I don't explicitly turn on and configure. No bloat whatsoever, the phone comes practically empty. I got this at the beginning of 2022, before then I kept finding myself reading articles about Johnny Depp and Amber Heard. Like I could not give less of a fuck about them, that story, whatever. I don't know who she is, and I don't particularly like JD movies except maybe Dead Man from the 90s, he probably beat the shit out of her idk. But for some reason I kept finding myself reading these articles on my phone absentmindedly. That kind of shit ended immediately.
Downsides? Not everything works, because there's no google play, and I couldn't get it even if I wanted it. I can use most google services on the browser, but for maps I have to use Osmand, which works but doesn't give me the fastest way to a place, and its kind of a trick to find a specific house or business without looking it up on a computer first and locating the nearest cross street. Schools, hospitals it has saved no problem, but not the optimal routes ore even anything relatively close. Great for my city where I can get myself 98% the way there already knowing the fastest ways around. Out of town we usually use my wife's navigation.
Those drawbacks are a little annoying but I will never go back to android, and I would never use apple in the first place. I love my phone, it feels like its mine in a way no phone ever has.
Hope this helps, ask if you have other questions
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android's at least open source
24The base of it is, but you're not buying a phone with a fully open source Android OS on it
17Sadly true, but still better than nothing
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Didn't they change license at some point, so it's no longer open source?
1AOSP is licensed under Apache 2.0
(if you want to contribute back you must sign a CLA though)
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I honestly haven’t seen an “Apple fanboy” IRL in like 10 years lol I feel like that romantic image ended some form ago.
Still, great meme and very true lol
15You still get a lot of the old 'android is for poor people' narrative. Age and sub-culture also play a part.
Drake, one of the most commercially successful musicians in the past 15 years, released a song where he says he wouldn't answer a call from a woman because she was calling him from an android.
That song came out just 6 months ago (Oct 2023) and was number one on the charts. A ton of young people will have heard that and been influenced on some level by it, so the Apple fanboy/android hater thing probably won't be going away any time soon
38damn I wish I lived where you lived
20Fanboys are not the same as people flaunting wealth. I generally see fanboys as advocates for the product and its feature sets. There is no doubt a lot of people by iPhone because of the image of wealth it displays and because it’s an easy decision if you have disposable income from a “set it and forget it” standpoint. The green vs blue text nonsense illustrates that clearly.
It’s like buying designer handbags. They’re still functional handbags and you don’t have to think about it. But it’s primarily about what the brand says about you. I just don’t consider this the domain of “fanboys.” Like I don’t describe Nintendo fanboys as people who buy Nintendo to show off they own Nintendo products. They buy it because they are staunch advocates of Nintendo and its games, as well as generally unable to critique the company or any of its products, usually electing to constantly talk about how everyone else is terrible and Nintendo is perfect and loves them.
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I just had a colleague mock me (good naturedly) the other day for having an android phone. I just laughed and said, I'm no fan of Google but at least I can install what I want on here. That was the end of it, haha.
10Damn, in my school class... I thought we are all old enough but my class also consists of Narcisstic and Egocentric people.
7I’ve written this a couple of times now, so this is gonna be the last one: it’s not about the wealth it displays, the conspicuous consumption.
Consider the term “Nintendo fanboy.” Do they buy it because of the image? To impress everybody that they own Nintendo products? No, they defend Nintendo and are staunch advocates of the company and their games, unwilling to be critical or consider where other companies/products might be better. They’re basically zealots for a product. Cost and what it says about your status are not top of mind.
There are people who buy Apple products for the social image, to flaunt wealth. That is not the same as the fanboy.
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I think that’s because pretty much everything just happens on the internet now. Most specialized applications are either built cross platform or are a website, so it really doesn’t matter what you use that much. It’s just down to personal preference
3If you follow a certain orange website, until very recently there's been a big group of apologists who protect the big and mighty if any bad news surfaced.
This has started to change, but the change is very recent. And in the startup ecosystem using a Mac is a standard and if you do not like them, you are considered weird and the latest social note keeping tool everybody else uses in the company has severe bugs on Linux, if it even works.
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I had a lot of hope for Android in the early days before Google dropped the n't from their "Don't be evil" corporate slogan.
15"Google is insidious. They're really an advertising data-collection company, but people think they're a tech service company. Their whole strategy is to provide stuff like Chrome for free so that lots of people use it and it becomes a de facto standard, and then they flip a switch and quietly mine all of that data."
15 minutes later...
"Anyway, I prefer Android cuz it's FOSS."
15People who prefer android because it's open source usually use open source android because that's what they want.
That being said, proprietary blobs and black boxes are a pox on basically every usable device these days. I hate it.
20Apple and Google are both part of the NSA's Prism data collection program.
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They pit us against each other in this arbitrary culture-war...the proprietary versus the open standards. And it's so wildly anti-consumer but we fall for it, year after year. Maybe one day Apple users will realize how anti-consumer it is, but I doubt it, they love the exclusivity of being half of the people with a smartpbone.
13Lol yes. Isn't it sad? They're even proud of being "rich" (lol) and brag about their stupid apple-gadgets. Apple really managed to get from "get more, pay less" to "get less, pay even more and get fucked" and having people kiss their butts for it.
3Apple as an OS and platform itself, isn't bad. macOS, I'd contend, is probably the most user-friendly experience out there. iOS and iPadOS aren't far behind.
Apple also tends to be late with new features, but makes sure they are polished and complete when they launch.
But that's it. I wouldn't say that makes them the best by any means. They all have their merits in their own regard. Consumers have their own reasons for selecting one platform over another, and those that don't choose Apple.
Sent from my OnePlus 12 (and I use Arch, btw) (and my last phone was an iPhone 12 pro max...the only reason I got it was because I was sick of exchanging potatograms with my wife, who wouldn't use a separate app just to message me. Before that it was a OnePlus 6T, then Galaxy S9, Note 4, Nexus 4, and HTC Hero. Might've missed one) (oh yeah had an iPhone 5 from work. Couldn't wait to exchange that (for the Note 4).
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Use what you like. Just like Windows, macOS and Linux for the vast majority of people, all these OSes are, are platforms to display apps and webpages. They all have sanded off most of the rough edges meaning that unless you have specific niche needs/wants, you'll just use what is familar and be happy.
Life is too short to have deep feelings about an OS.
12Hush
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based asf
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This is the reason you shouldn’t choose a chat platform that requires the using the mobile OS duopoly—get your friends off of LINE, WhatsApp, & Signal.
7Lineage OS fan here. I'm in the clear
7Trillion.
6Lol I can't understand how you get so many upvotes but when I make a meme everybody's like "what's a stan???" Linux users are some of the most antisocial people on the planet.
5what is a stan tho?
3Go listen to Eminem. He explains it quite well.
3It's what you take when you're not afraid
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bruh
as a linux user I am embarrassed they didn't know
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For me, iOS has always had a general touch responsiveness to the UI that Android has never been able to replicate. It's hard to describe, but I feel like I make a lot less errors when navigating the UI in iOS. It isn't faster, but it's always felt smoother to me. I'm not sure whether it's iOS or the iPhone hardware.
Having said that, Android is the much better platform overall for the things it allows you to do that iOS doesn't. It's highly unlikely that I go back to maining an iPhone unless iOS gets radical changes. Third party app stores, launchers, emulators, etc.
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