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Helldivers 2 now delisted in 177 countries

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It’s crazy to see Sony kill their golden goose.

PC Gaming @lemmy.ca Helldivers 2 delisted from purchase in countries where PSN is unavailable.

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Helldivers 2 @lemmy.ca Helldivers now delisted in 177 countries

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I was going to get this game. Now I'm not.

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- Indeed
  
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- I was also waiting for a sale, but won't bother now.
  
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- You are in one of those 177 countries arent you?
  
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  No. I fundamentally disagree with the idea of changing the TOS after sale. That’s some grade A bullshit, and if we had decent consumer protection laws doing that would be illegal without an opportunity for a full refund. It blows my mind how many people seem to be okay with this in general. It’s not the Sony account that’s the issue for me, it’s Sony changing the terms when it clearly was not a requirement at release. Sony isn’t the only one guilty of this, but they are the most recent example.
  
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- It was really great, but the constant "balance changes" to remove fun and increase stress really outline to us why military fuckin' loves the game.
  
  They need their ptsd stoked more than they need a good video game.
  
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  The balance changes are fine. There's a lot to legitimately criticize here, why bring that up? Playing the game in its own right is amazing fun, in fact, the game being so good is why all of these surrounding problems hurt that much more.
  
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  Sorry you didn't like it, maybe you should try something more suitable to your abilities. Turn based maybe?
  
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All Sony had to do was nothing and they still fucked it up.

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  In Australia, we'd call it the Bradbury strategy, named after a speed skater who won a gold medal when the 4 or so skaters in front of him fell over on the final lap. Keep doing your thing and wait for everyone else to fuck up.
  
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  I would strongly disagree with the "does nothing" part. Steam has always been improving itself constantly through the years.
  
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  In other circles I believe this is referred to as the "Luigi method"
  
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  I love how the same people shitting on billionaires and their evil corporations, are jerking off to Steam and Gabe the billionaire
  
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See, this is why the liveservice model is fundementally bad. Even if they don't fuck it up on launch, they can always fuck it up later.

Stick to offline folks.

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- And even if we accept that it was always intended to be PSN-only and they decided to launch before PSN integration was done, the fact that multiplayer is entirely dependent on them providing a service is troubling. That's how we lose games.
  
  I can still launch Rainbow Six 3 and play multiplayer with my friends because it has the server built in and allows direct connect via IP address. You can't do that with a live service game; once the official servers are down the game becomes (partially or completely) lost media.
  
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  While on this subject:
  
  https://www.stopkillinggames.com/
  
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Successful launch and so much good will burned in a few days because of greedy MBAs proposing their "brilliant" profit guaranteed extraction strategy.

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- How are they even making a profit with it? Does the psn account cost money?
  
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  Might not end up making Sony any money, but I'm sure an executive is getting a well-deserved bonus off the back of that nice-looking bump in PSN account numbers.
  
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  It is free. But they can gather data, get you into their ecosystem, hopefully making it more likely you buy a playstation or other playstation published games. Eventually maybe they want to have cross progress between pc and playstation or have playstation achievements on pc, maybe their own steam like client.
  
  Ultimately these countries are probably responsible for less than 5% of their total sales. Most of them are either tiny or poor or both. It does have countries like Egypt, Albania, Serbia, Morocco and Algeria but most of the banned countries are irrelevant in terms of sales.
  
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  They can steal your data if you're logged into a PSN account, and down the line the plan (which they don't want to admit) is to get PC players paying for a multiplayer subscription like on console.
  
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It's clear Sony is a garbage company since at least the 2011 hack in how they conduct themselves. How they have treated so many of their studios terribly. Late implementation of 2FA. Treating people like shit with customer service if you were hacked, or need repairs. Can't implement basic features with each new console Gen. Can't be bothered to support their own goddamned handheld. On and on.

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- Even before that, considering the music division put copy-protection rootkits on CDs that often broke computers.
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootkit_scandal
  
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- Remember when Sony promised PSN would always be free? Pepperidge Farms remembers.
  
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Can't have shit these days.

I blame Shark Tank.

Love watching rich S.O.Bs kill capitalism, but hate the consequences.

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- I blame unhinged neoliberal capitalism
  
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  you basically said the same word three times there!
  
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Why?

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- They're non-psn countries.
  
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  How is PSN not in that many countries?
  
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- Line must go up
  
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Added Unknown country code: XD

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- Also known as Dubai (TIL)
  
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  TIL too. This lone source told me it's from WorldBase? Why would Steam use these? They don't even have any country codes!
  
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Why is Antarctica on the list? Is it considered a country?

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- Because whether it is a country or not the researchers working there need an outlet. It's either games or kill each other. And the PSN isn't available.
  
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  So that leaves… oh 😳
  
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- Antartic treaty says it's not part of any country, but I guess steam is available there.
  
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  Who's gonna think about the 4 helldivers playing Helldivers 2 in Helvete?
  
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I guess making a good game sets bad precedent

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