A former chairman of the right-wing Proud Boys group was sentenced on Tuesday to 22 years in prison for his role in the Jan. 6, 2021, assault on the U.S. Capitol by supporters of Donald Trump trying to overturn the former president's election defeat.
What's even better is him thinking he's not going to be in prison long because Trump is going to win the next election and pardon him. My brother, there's a greater chance of Trump becoming your cell mate.
It's true he doesn't give a damn about these people but they're useful for his scam. He's already said he'll pardon people and will continue to say it because it suits the narrative he's pushing and what his base wants to hear.
The problem is he is toxic and will only get more so as his legal issues turn into jail time so it's unlikely he'll win election. If he were smart he'd drop out and secure a pardon from a more electable GOP nominee in return for endorsement. But he won't. So it seems that these proud boy / oathkeeper idiots are likely to be spending a long time behind bars.
I bet Trump thinks about them a bit. Every day Trump isn't in the White House he is reminded that they are failures. Zero surprise if they never get parole if Trump makes the WH.
Most of the country is dealing with a 30% to 50% cost of living increase, and they're going to blame Biden for it. Trump got elected the first time because 6,000,000 were foreclosed upon when Obama was president.
It's possible, but as much as people are exhausted with Biden, nothing would get blue to turn out to vote like another chance of Trump. Blue would vote for a tent full of mosquitoes if it meant voting against Trump. Trump supporters have gotten more fanatical, not more numerous. Some of my own family members are currently in orange pill recovery. Not to mention all the Reds that died of COVID denial. Then you factor in young people now eligible to vote skewing blue. The only person I think Trump could beat honestly would be Hillary. Red would show up to vote against her if not for Trump.
It's good that he's going away for 22 years. However, the sentencing guidelines called for between 324 to 405 months (27-33 years) so by the Judge's own calculations this is a miscarriage of justice and yet another right wing domestic terrorist is being handled with kid gloves. Fucking disgraceful.
2 decades is 2 decades. And, it's not like when he gets released he'll be hailed as a hero. Trump will be dead, most of his supporters will probably be dead of old age or COVID. The rest will be too embarrassed that they voted for him to admit it.
When he gets out he'll be 60. Having spent decades in prison, he won't be able to retire, and will probably live out the rest of his life working menial jobs that hire ex-felons until he dies in obscurity.
Sentences can include upward and downward departures from the guidelines based on the circumstances of the case. It's also important to remember that the guidelines are non-binding on judges.
My understanding was that the informant bit didn't really help him out because he stopped being an informant and then the January 6th riots happened.
So he'd stopped supplying them with information before he then committed treason. So it isn't as if they just weren't appreciative of the information supplied, the information supplied had nothing to do with why he was arrested.
Interesting. I thought that he had got himself arrested on minor charges before the 6th, to have an excuse not to be there. I assumed that was encouraged by the FBI. Sounds like he was hedging his bets, and lost it all anyway. Either way, I'm laughing at him!
Historically, people who attempt to overthrow their government get death. Hell, they still execute Guy Fawkes symbolically every year. And all we do is put them up in prison for 20 years? We've gone soft.
Guys losing 1/3 of his adult life, and won't get out of prison before his 60s. I'm extremely anti-j6, but 22 years seems like a nice hefty sentance to me
Seditious conspiracy comes with a max 20 years sentence (for one charge). Most people that day were caught up in the events as they unfolded without thinking through their actions and understanding what they were doing, to various degrees. They didn't wake up that day to start a coup but they did follow along with it, thus they were guilty but given leniency and their sentences were greatly reduced to reflect that. Those people got their 1-3 years for partaking.
Unlike those individuals this guy didn't just wake up knowing a coup would happen that day, he actually organized it. Through his direction actions and that of his co-conspirators the events of January 6th unfolded thanks to his efforts. Him and his co-conspirators who organized and created this coup are indirectly responsible for the violence that followed that day. So his sentencing wasn't lenient because of his leadership role coupled with the violence that occured he was given a stronger sentence.
In the off chance you know - The fucker who planted shitty bombs in the important rooms - is he considered an opportunist or part of the group? Is the insanity of almost-bombing the entirety of Congress considered part of the "coup attempt"?
I don't remember most details. I only remember bombs were found, but they weren't very good bombs.
I saw numerous videos where these guys went out of their to beat the living shit out of blm protestors (not rioters), while calling people antifa - who clearly weren’t, in broad daylight, and nothing happened to them. I can only imagine if I were one of their many victims, that seeing this would be give me some great pleasure. Especially since the “fuck around and find out” rallying call was the thing they said as the brutalized people who were simply protesting brutality.
"During the sentencing, US district judge Timothy Kelly, who was nominated to the bench by Trump, said the evidence suggested Tarrio was “the ultimate leader” of the seditious conspiracy, “the ultimate person, who organized, who was motivated by revolutionary zeal”."
I don't think it was either of them leading. It's probably organized crime. Also probably why they try to amp up bitcoins.... They got drug and trafficked Bitcoin they want to launder easier. Roger Stone, I think, is a closer connection to the real people puppeting these morons. Probably why Robert Kennedy jumped on board with the rightwing nonsense, because the mafia already killed JFK and he's owned.
Stand back and pick up the soap, nutty. I hope they send him to wherever they lock up the Bloods and Crips gang members they arrest, maybe he can explain to them how he's not a racist.