Opposition to the butchery in Gaza

My entire school life there was so much pontification over what "you" would do during segregation or the Holocaust or slavery?

Turns out my entire family would grow a toothbrush moustaches and start painting vegan landscapes while I kept working because the cost of living rises more than wages and I long for the reprieve of death.

Who will be ignored next?

• Sudan
• Myanmar
• Armenia
• Afghanistan
• Tibet

These aren't next, these are already forgotten even though they're catastrophes. Hell, even Ukraine is being forgotten even though it's one the biggest wars in 21st century. When India and Pakistan looked like they were about to go to war, this Israel/Palestine war was also pushed to the back of people's minds.

I think this is the just the nature of humans. People want to think they're noble and righteous, but they won't actually do anything, and the moment a new war starts they'll move on to that because it's new and we have short attention spands.

Who will be ignored next?

I hate to say it, but there hasn’t been a time in modern history where there weren’t women and children starving while the rest of the world did nothing.

Even most of the conservative politicians in the US seemed to take this approach, until he started winning (read also: liberal politicians failed to counter his right-wing populism).

What is the point of this completely off topic non-sequitor?

Faith isn’t the reason, it’s the excuse

I think all fascism is a mental illness.

Luckily, there is a treatment, as demonstrated by one of its most famous sufferers. It can even be self administered!

Are bad/lacking morals a mental illness? Seriously, at what point do we draw the line? It's a curious topic.

That's not what she does. Being a bad person or even being a psychopath is not considered a mental illness.

Jesus, how much have the Zionists modified that Wiki article? A text supposedly about how Israelis dehumanize Palestinians repeatedly starts by reciting the issue with Palestinians and Muslims dehumanizing Jews? This is the first mention of the details of dehumanization:

"Among Palestinians, Israelis have been referred to as pigs, dogs, and bloodsucking vampires, while in Israeli discourse references to Palestinians as savage animals and or repugnant critters has also been attested, and at least once, protesting Gazans have been described as mere ammunition weaponized by their "cannibal" leaders."

And this is the first paragraph under "Background":

"Even though Jews, like a number of other religious minorities, Christians included, were accorded protected status in Islamic societies, the use of abusive stereotypes was not uncommon, some of them were grounded in Quranic and early scholarly traditions."

Is this about Israeli dehumanization of Palestinians? WTF? Let's always start by reciting how Muslims maybe kind of deserve it, or maybe bring the dehumanization on themselves.

No but you antisemites just dont understand! Exterminating the hamas people is the culture of the jewish people¹. So really, by stopping the 'genocide', youre actually doing genocide against a proud 5000 year old culture! Youre literally hitler, who was actually just an innocent tool duped by hamas btw.

¹those weak subhuman diaspora 'jews' may try to mislead you about that. Clearly this is just internalized antisemitism.

Out of curiosity I checked out the inverse article and to my great surprise (/s) it didn’t start by mentioning israely dehumanization of palestinians. It sid however mention someone’s opinion that dehumanization was ignored when palestinians did it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_stereotypes_of_Jews_in_Palestinian_discourse

Note: It's Ukraine, not "the Ukraine".

Calling it "the Ukraine" is Russian propaganda.

https://theconversation.com/its-ukraine-not-the-ukraine-heres-why-178748

This is only looking at the surface level....

It's not that "war is bad" in this case. It's that people fear that it's a small jump from "the govt of Israel is bad for killing Gazans" to "Israel is bad" to "the idea of Israel is bad" to "Jews are bad".

Follow the money

Also racism

Because western ideology is ultimately ultranationalism, they will always support their country against others.

I think there will be consequences for innocent Jews who have nothing to do with the Israeli genocide. This sort of behavior gives ammo and a perception of legitimacy to antisemites. Israel is making things harder for Jews worldwide for years to come.

Have there been consequences for the United States' or Canada's genocides against Indigenous peoples? Not really.

People can just get away with things unless you make them pay for it.

EDIT case in point, 200 years from now we could be celebrating the jewel of democracy Israel, while "acknowledging its troubled past" but you're still doing this over the bones of the people your predecessors slaughtered. I'm not even saying it wouldn't be genuine, like people today in the US and Canada bemoan the actions of previous colonizers. But the fact of what happened remains immutable. The slaughter happened, and the people who committed it accomplished their aims. They got away with it.

The death of religious spirituality at the hands of religious identity.

I think there will be consequences for Israel's crimes, just not today.

I hope you're right.

I think there will be consequences for Israel's crimes, just not today.

Possibly, but that won't help the dead kids. The focus must be on stopping the genocide as quickly as possible. Finding and punishing the perps can wait.

Either that, or the psychological abuse techniques that militaries do to turn normal people into obedient soldiers are effective. Israel has compulsory military service, so nearly all of the population of the country went through it. That's how they get that 80% support.

Thanks for letting me know. I've edited out her details so only the message is visible.

What antisemitism is being implied?

This astrology grifter is phony AF.

Ad hominem. Doesn't invalidate the words above.

Notice the implied anti-semitism and missing zionism.

I noticed no implied anti-semitism. I noticed explicit criticism of the Israeli government.

Please don't promote this crap just because it sounds "good".

True. Promote it to highlight the genocide that is currently occurring.

Free Palestine.

Agreed, but I suspect yours isn’t genuine.

Thanks for the headsup. I've edited out her details so only the message is visible.

Caring has nothing to do with your paycheck, caring is about basic human empathy. I wouldn't be surprised when lower income would care more than higher.

That's one way to control the crowds, make them too busy to think outside the rat race.

Haha, I read your comment pre-edit at first but assumed it was an oversight!

I also agree with your agreement with OP to not oppose them for those same reasons.

I'm including a link from a news report released yesterday at the bottom of this comment.

I'll save you from actually clicking on it and watching this horrific video, and just let you know, it's a 5 yo girl in Gaza trapped in a burning building after it was bombed by the Israeli army. The building is a former school the girl had been sheltering in along with her parents, younger sibling, and several others.

She screams in pain as she desperately tries to escape from the flames, and people outside scream for help as they watch her running around inside. Luckily a fireman was able to help her escape, but she was horribly burned and lost her entire family. The reporter later finds her in a hospital several weeks later, trying to recover and crying out for her mother.

If you still feel from that description that ignoring what is happening right now is acceptable or you're pretending it can somehow be justified in any context, you should make yourself watch the video. Keep in mind this is one of countless stories like it.

It's extremely disturbing because what's happening is literally extreme and should make any human capable of empathy uncomfortable. It's easier to ignore it and pretend it's not happening, but that's always the case with genocide.

If watching the video and knowing all of this still changes nothing for you, then you should also know you are literally showing callous and unemotional traits associated with psychopathy. That's not BS, it's a fact of reality.

https://www.nytimes.com/video/world/middleeast/100000010207629/gaza-israeli-strike-palestinian-girl-silhouette-fire.html

Antitanks trying to not bring up tankies in every conversation challenge: impossible

I would rather bother them very loudly.

The people that treated your people like refuse are not the same people as the ones protesting against atrocities.

Lumping a whole population together and stereotyping them is wrong, no matter who you're targeting with your stereotypes.

How do you split that baby?

Recent polls show 81% of the Israeli population agree that Palestine should be ethnically cleansed. It's not just the government, and it's not "incompetence", it's deliberate malice.

And Hamas's crimes are a drop in the ocean compared to Israel, so if you think Hamas "deserves nothing but be deleted and forgotten by all of history," what do you think Israel deserves?

You genuinely like an apartheid regime?

I smell toast.

Conflating Zionism with Judaism is how you create antisemitism. One of the largest constituencies of antizionism is in the Jewish community itself.

If you think religion is solely to blame here, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. This goes back to the british mandate, WW1 and the arab revolt; not just religion.

This is settler colonialism, judaism != zionism.

Religion obviously does have some part in this, but to pin this genocide solely on "religion" is ignorant, and reductive.

Ah, yes, the genocide and its fascist underpinnings created by seculer atheists inspired by Renaissance and Enlightenment ideals are completely the fault of religion.

Absolutely, religion is at the heart of fascism. But it's probably not the religion that you're thinking of...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion

Aka muslims deserved it. Hardcore atheists are cringe af