Ukrainian troops now up to 30km inside Russia, Moscow says
Ukrainian troops now up to 30km inside Russia, Moscow says
Russia's defence ministry said it had engaged in fighting near two villages, some 25-30km inside Russia.
Foreign ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova accused Kyiv of "intimidating the peaceful population of Russia"
do you get to claim that when your country instigates a full-on war?
230You’re not allowed to come here, it’s private property \s
32Comrade, how can you forgets. Is special military operation, we are not the aggressor
32What war? It's a special operation /s
13Well, I think she's speaking the truth. Of all the Russians, those that are peaceful are probably pretty intimidated by the shooting in their vicinity.
12Yeah, who do they think is killing the Ukrainians? It's the "peaceful" population of Russia.
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Imagine if Prigozhin had waited until now for his ill-fated push to the Kremlin...
95As I recall, he called it off after the Kremlin walked back whatever policy it was that pissed him off.
40I seem to recall that arresting Gerasimov during a visit to Rostov-on-Don was part if the plan, and one of the generals next in line was friendly to Wagner so it would've created division in the ranks. But Shoigu got tipped off, the general backed out, and Prigozhin eventually realized without military backing he'd eventually lose
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Imagine if he had balls and actually did it back then
31As they say in Breaking Bad: no half-measures. It got him murdered anyway, he should have gone all the way with a coup...
32Prigozhin sobering up early is one of history's big disappointments.
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76Moscow or bust boys keep grabbing them by the balls and kicking them in the ass.
76Seriously the media needs to use more words like these... "Penetration" , "Thrusting into" , "etc ....
It would just grate on 'ol Pootie so nicely.
33Ukraine thrusts deep into Russia as Russia pushes back gently, but while whimpering quietly. Ukraine pulls russias hair and leans in close, whispering "take it all, whore"
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I mean, Ukraine does not have the ability to hold anything or do a sustained push. It would be foolish to try.
Going in, destroying supplies and infrastructure, and then leaving is the smart move unless there are good choke points to hold.
15Yeah, I hope that's the plan, otherwise they'll just lose everyone they sent over there. Go in, destroy a bunch of stuff and leave is the smart plan. It'll force Russia to keep substantial amounts of troops in Russia to avoid a repeat, shows they're weak and boosts morale in Ukraine.
13Obviously, they can't go all the way to Moscow but Kursk or bust doesn't have the same ring to it.
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Guys, guys, guys. I know a surefire way to get Ukrainian troops out of Russia immediately. Putin, call me.
67Little more time and a little more progress, Ukraine will sort that call out to their own.
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If moscow says 30, it's probably more like 90 🤣
45It looks like they're actually telling the truth this time. For the record Kursk is 80km from the border. If the Ukrainians even manage to touch Kursk it'll be a big deal. So the Kremlin is probably trying to buy a little credibility so they can deny that as long as possible.
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Any good places to follow Ukraine conflict on Lemmy? Trying again to switch off Reddit…
28Noncredibledefense has updates, but may not qualify as a "good place." Extremely meme focused.
30But the info is so fresh! Newcomers beware... it's hard to tell what's info vs a random meme.
15I love noncredibledefense and get a lot of my news from there. But unfortunately it’s not as active as on Reddit, but I REFUSE to go back there. We need to do something to recruit more people.
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The Ukraine group on sopuli.xyz gets a lot of updates.
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Start your own community and I will post there when I can if thats what you want.
5It would be so cool to get one to develop that’s even close to the size as the one on reddit. Ever since I got off Reddit, I’ve missed those subs a lot. But I REFUSE to go back.
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Not Lemmy but there's frequent updates at ISW, (Institute for the Study of War). Just google ISW Ukraine to get their report page.
5I find its useful to follow folks you notice posting quality content.
1I post updates when relevant to !military@lemmy.world
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lol
lmao even
28September 22 starts Fall. Winter is coming.
Tell them not to get stuck in Russia. I hear it's bad strategy.
12I know this applies to the French and to Germans, but does the rule hold for Ukrainians?
7Good question. I guess we could try it out...
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My understanding is the Ukrainians do very well on defense. Pushing into Russia forces Russia to attack them, even in the winter. Otherwise they'd stop the attack until spring/summer. If they let Ukraine hold this ground until then though that's a huge loss for Russian PR at least. Ukraine probably won't attack in the winter, which is the issue, but Russia will probably be forced to.
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Putin is about to relocate to Siberia
12The deeper they get, I imagine the more ammunition stashes they'll pass. I wonder how much they've been able to claim.
9I would assume not much, it's an incursion. Meaning they don't have the infrastructure to ship it back. If they find any caches, they probably would take what they can use quickly, and destroy the rest.
21That all makes sense. I saw today they have captured at least one tank which is nice.
They've penetrated two prepared defence lines which they may want to hunker down in later so shipping ammo back to those would be less hassle.
There's some talk of them potentially holding that gas plant to force Russia to destroy it to dislodge them too, cutting off gas to Hungary while making Russia the one that does it. Muuuaahahaha.
The whole thing is fascinating. Really looking forward to the Perun video on it which will hopefully be next week.
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I love the photo. It screams.
"From Russia, with love."
6This isn’t the meme where mist of the guard have gone to fight “over there” and so left like two guards for the place is it? Be funny if it was.
6Once you get passed the line of defense, very little stops you from traveling inland except how much road you have in front of you.
That said, this sounds more and more like a suicide mission. No way they've got 30km of supply lines to support this advance, and its just a matter of time before they're encircled.
2That's like...a short drive. In a supply convoy going over rough terrain looking out for drones, maybe a couple hours.
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Is this the part of Russia that Russia invaded and annexed from Ukraine originally?
4Donetsk and Crimea? No.
This is on the Russian side of the border north of Ukraine in an area that Ukraine has never previously laid claim to.
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I’ve played enough Advance Wars to feel something is amiss.
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